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8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

I was originally "high" on the guy. Stuck up for him when others decried the "meltdown" in 2015.
UMGriz75 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:58 am
I don't think this was a "meltdown" at all, although that being said, it puts into perspective the fact that Jordan Johnson carried the Grizzly offense over a three year period and made it look much better than it was. Not just his intelligence, but he was one tough kid who had to absorb a lot more physical abuse than a quarterback should and always came back to play.

Against Poly and Liberty, nothing happened that a little tightening up doesn't fix. Nothing happened in either game that didn't mean a win if just one or two plays had bounced differently. But, that's a long ways from a "meltdown." New coach, new plays, I'd expect the first few games to be "rough." Like tuning an engine, rotate that distributor cap the wrong way and splutter, oops, need to go the other direction. Go too far, splutter some more. Finally, you dial it in. I think that's exactly what we are seeing.

Stitt's a smart guy. He leaves that indelible impression and I don't think its faked. The team needs leadership and that is obviously still coming together. Brady Gustafson was evolving into the role.
UMGriz75 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:35 pm
I have been very impressed with Brady's power and control. I could see why Coach Stitt made the choice. With some seasoning, he had every prospect to become an outstanding FCS quarterback.
Then, Stitt started trashing the team.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ajmazzolini/status/664499813723979776[/tweet]
He made the odd observation that "his" strategy was in place for the first three games, but that he was forced to abandon it thereafter. Claiming Cal Poly and Liberty as "success" stories led me to begin questioning Stitt's overall judgment.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ajmazzolini/status/664500061070430208[/tweet]
Finally, after three quarterbacks, the pattern emerged. I ran a lot of numbers and they all pointed to a continuing decline, the longer players played under this coach. It was a statistical pattern, but one that was firmly established.
UMGriz75 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:56 pm
Both Brady and Makena started with great games, and then their statistics deteriorated significantly thereafter. In each case, their second games saw significant reductions in average throwing yardage, and increased interceptions and other errors. In Brady's case, his inability to run resulted in loss. In Makena's case, his ability to run made up for the deterioration in passing game.

In both cases, QB play deteriorated from high level performances to sub-par performances because of changes in the game plays. Stitt likes a lot of those short plays. Chad Chalich's games were right on where Brady and Makena "ended up," and so Chad was likely playing Stitt's game from the get go: 59% passing completion, 9 yds average throw, 3.8 yds rushing (64 yd).

There are distinct patterns of play from all three QBs that converge at remarkably similar statistics the more games they play under Stitt.
I'd never seen three reasonably talented quarterbacks have successively worse games playing under a coach. Just never seen anything like that.

The process, art, and science of coaching is improving these young men, play after play, practice after practice, game after game, season after season. Under Stitt, the opposite was happening and it was too much of a pattern to call it anything else.

That is also when I went back and looked at the "Mines" record and realized it was not "as represented." That is when I finally questioned whether a DII coach with 15 years of fourth-place conference finishes could coach a DI program in a reasonably competitive conference of reasonably experienced DI coaches. At that time, I concluded that I did not think the Griz could be successful under this coach

Looking at the pattern of continuing decline in team performance, I saw nothing that offered the prospect of change. After that, the humiliating loss to NDSU and Stitt's bizarre pre-and-post game comments. Then, this season and the precise team decline that I saw the year earlier, even worse because it showed in player's attitudes, as the Coach himself loudly complained of.

The trend established last year continued downhill this year. It was predictable, and it was predicted.

For next year, the Griz are handicapped by the DII DC. I don't see any reason how he can suddenly perk up and obtain the kind of experience he clearly lacks at this level without ... getting the years of that kind of experience. He needed to spend more time as an assistant DC somewhere at DI. Losing Gregorak was Stitt's biggest mistake so far. That's been shown to all but the blind and hermetically sealed. I don't know that can be fixed without Stitt admitting he put Semore in too soon too high. I don't think he can.

What I initially interpreted as a positive self-confidence I now see as an unjustified self-reverence. He will not second-guess himself, despite his mea culpas at his Sally Fields Press Conference.

That leaves the OC. Maybe Stitt can overcome the problem of what is primarily himself with somebody else who has the flexibility and experience at the DI level, and doesn't approach every game and every second half with a "deer in the headlights" reaction to BSC and DI football.

But without that "needed improvement," talent will simply go to waste. It doesn't matter who the "recruits" are, and especially now that every competing coach is pointing to ... Stitt's record.

Stitt needs to send a clear signal through staff changes that there will be ... change.
 
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
you really are an insufferable twit.
The pleasure of pointing out your continuous errors, starting with the JJ Trial, has been illuminating; in this case, the "twit" is in the eye of the beholder ...

again, you don't address my comments that are pertinent to this thread, because you can't. regarding the johnson issue, all i ever said was that i didn't know the details of what actually happened, and, despite all the incredibly creepy little fantasies you posted, pretending to be there during their interactions yourself, neither did you.
 
argh! said:
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
you really are an insufferable twit.
The pleasure of pointing out your continuous errors, starting with the JJ Trial, has been illuminating; in this case, the "twit" is in the eye of the beholder ...
again, you don't address my comments that are pertinent to this thread, because you can't. regarding the johnson issue, all i ever said was that i didn't know the details of what actually happened, and, despite all the incredibly creepy little fantasies you posted, pretending to be there during their interactions yourself, neither did you.
You are just weird. There were no "fantasies," except for your bizarre claims such as "the family saying they didn't believe her didn't mean they didn't actually believe her" and other gems worthy of mental health analysis.

Especially, "all I ever said." :lol: :lol: :lol:

In that case, you must have repeated it 100,000 times because that's all you did; trolling and second-guessing every comment.
 
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
you really are an insufferable twit.
The pleasure of pointing out your continuous errors, starting with the JJ Trial, has been illuminating; in this case, the "twit" is in the eye of the beholder ...
again, you don't address my comments that are pertinent to this thread, because you can't. regarding the johnson issue, all i ever said was that i didn't know the details of what actually happened, and, despite all the incredibly creepy little fantasies you posted, pretending to be there during their interactions yourself, neither did you.
You are just weird. There were no "fantasies," except for your bizarre claims such as "the family saying they didn't believe her didn't mean they didn't actually believe her" and other gems worthy of mental health analysis.

Especially, "all I ever said." :lol: :lol: :lol:

In that case, you must have repeated it 100,000 times because that's all you did; trolling and second-guessing every comment.

again, all i ever said about the case itself could be summarized into the brief statement 'i wasn't there and neither were you'. i did spend some time mocking your stupid, lengthy dramatic renderings of events that you couldn't possibly know about.
 
argh! said:
again, all i ever said about the case itself was that i wasn't there and neither were you. i did spend some time mocking your stupid, lengthy dramatic renderings of events that you couldn't possibly know about.
Well, what you thought you knew, what you thought I knew, and the actual facts were a long ways from where you were. That's all you proved. You were one of the loudmouths who seemed to revel in the prospect that JJ might be found guilty; one of the self-hating "boosters" who wanted a sacrifice to their vision of Griz football, and their admiration for Engstrom's strong leadership. It was disgusting then. It hasn't gotten more palatable with the passage of time.
 
UMGriz75 said:
I was originally "high" on the guy. Stuck up for him when others decried the "meltdown" in 2015.
UMGriz75 » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:58 am
I don't think this was a "meltdown" at all, although that being said, it puts into perspective the fact that Jordan Johnson carried the Grizzly offense over a three year period and made it look much better than it was. Not just his intelligence, but he was one tough kid who had to absorb a lot more physical abuse than a quarterback should and always came back to play.

Against Poly and Liberty, nothing happened that a little tightening up doesn't fix. Nothing happened in either game that didn't mean a win if just one or two plays had bounced differently. But, that's a long ways from a "meltdown." New coach, new plays, I'd expect the first few games to be "rough." Like tuning an engine, rotate that distributor cap the wrong way and splutter, oops, need to go the other direction. Go too far, splutter some more. Finally, you dial it in. I think that's exactly what we are seeing.

Stitt's a smart guy. He leaves that indelible impression and I don't think its faked. The team needs leadership and that is obviously still coming together. Brady Gustafson was evolving into the role.
UMGriz75 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:35 pm
I have been very impressed with Brady's power and control. I could see why Coach Stitt made the choice. With some seasoning, he had every prospect to become an outstanding FCS quarterback.
Then, Stitt started trashing the team.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ajmazzolini/status/664499813723979776[/tweet]
He made the odd observation that "his" strategy was in place for the first three games, but that he was forced to abandon it thereafter. Claiming Cal Poly and Liberty as "success" stories led me to begin questioning Stitt's overall judgment.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ajmazzolini/status/664500061070430208[/tweet]
Finally, after three quarterbacks, the pattern emerged. I ran a lot of numbers and they all pointed to a continuing decline, the longer players played under this coach. It was a statistical pattern, but one that was firmly established.
UMGriz75 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:56 pm
Both Brady and Makena started with great games, and then their statistics deteriorated significantly thereafter. In each case, their second games saw significant reductions in average throwing yardage, and increased interceptions and other errors. In Brady's case, his inability to run resulted in loss. In Makena's case, his ability to run made up for the deterioration in passing game.

In both cases, QB play deteriorated from high level performances to sub-par performances because of changes in the game plays. Stitt likes a lot of those short plays. Chad Chalich's games were right on where Brady and Makena "ended up," and so Chad was likely playing Stitt's game from the get go: 59% passing completion, 9 yds average throw, 3.8 yds rushing (64 yd).

There are distinct patterns of play from all three QBs that converge at remarkably similar statistics the more games they play under Stitt.
I'd never seen three reasonably talented quarterbacks have successively worse games playing under a coach. Just never seen anything like that.

The process, art, and science of coaching is improving these young men, play after play, practice after practice, game after game, season after season. Under Stitt, the opposite was happening and it was too much of a pattern to call it anything else.

That is also when I went back and looked at the "Mines" record and realized it was not "as represented." That is when I finally questioned whether a DII coach with 15 years of fourth-place conference finishes could coach a DI program in a reasonably competitive conference of reasonably experienced DI coaches. At that time, I concluded that I did not think the Griz could be successful under this coach

Looking at the pattern of continuing decline in team performance, I saw nothing that offered the prospect of change. After that, the humiliating loss to NDSU and Stitt's bizarre pre-and-post game comments. Then, this season and the precise team decline that I saw the year earlier, even worse because it showed in player's attitudes, as the Coach himself loudly complained of.

The trend established last year continued downhill this year. It was predictable, and it was predicted.

For next year, the Griz are handicapped by the DII DC. I don't see any reason how he can suddenly perk up and obtain the kind of experience he clearly lacks at this level without ... getting the years of that kind of experience. He needed to spend more time as an assistant DC somewhere at DI. Losing Gregorak was Stitt's biggest mistake so far. That's been shown to all but the blind and hermetically sealed. I don't know that can be fixed without Stitt admitting he put Semore in too soon too high. I don't think he can.

What I initially interpreted as a positive self-confidence I now see as an unjustified self-reverence. He will not second-guess himself, despite his mea culpas at his Sally Fields Press Conference.

That leaves the OC. Maybe Stitt can overcome the problem of what is primarily himself with somebody else who has the flexibility and experience at the DI level, and doesn't approach every game and every second half with a "deer in the headlights" reaction to BSC and DI football.

But without that "needed improvement," talent will simply go to waste. It doesn't matter who the "recruits" are, and especially now that every competing coach is pointing to ... Stitt's record.

Stitt needs to send a clear signal through staff changes that there will be ... change.
Good god, the Hellgate wind sure is gusting today.
 
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
again, all i ever said about the case itself was that i wasn't there and neither were you. i did spend some time mocking your stupid, lengthy dramatic renderings of events that you couldn't possibly know about.
Well, what you thought you knew, what you thought I knew, and the actual facts were a long ways from where you were. That's all you proved. You were one of the loudmouths who seemed to revel in the prospect that JJ might be found guilty; one of the self-hating "boosters" who wanted a sacrifice to their vision of Griz football, and their admiration for Engstrom's strong leadership. It was disgusting then. It hasn't gotten more palatable with the passage of time.

you are just making shit up, like usual. i never wrote that i admired engstrom's 'strong leadership'. you obviously know how to use the search function - why don't you prove your blather and re-post whatever i wrote at the time, without editing or changing the context by omitting whatever i was responding to at the time?
 
argh! said:
UMGriz75 said:
argh! said:
again, all i ever said about the case itself was that i wasn't there and neither were you. i did spend some time mocking your stupid, lengthy dramatic renderings of events that you couldn't possibly know about.
Well, what you thought you knew, what you thought I knew, and the actual facts were a long ways from where you were. That's all you proved. You were one of the loudmouths who seemed to revel in the prospect that JJ might be found guilty; one of the self-hating "boosters" who wanted a sacrifice to their vision of Griz football, and their admiration for Engstrom's strong leadership. It was disgusting then. It hasn't gotten more palatable with the passage of time.
you are just making shit up, like usual. i never wrote that i admired engstrom's 'strong leadership'. you obviously know how to use the search function - why don't you prove your blather and re-post whatever i wrote at the time, without editing or changing the context by omitting whatever i was responding to at the time?
Sounding more and more like the "JJ" threads ... :roll:
 
UMGriz75 said:
grizfnz said:
Good god, the Hellgate wind sure is gusting today.
Well, keep your dress down.
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Kim has a sense of humor....who knew??
 
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