8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

[PlayerRep]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

 

[PlayerRep]

What are you predicting for 2017 (honestly asking)?

Well, I've always said I thought Bob Stitt was a smart guy, but that his ego and stubbornness get in the way. And he's a nice enough guy, very cordial and has an infectious enthusiasm and that's part of his personal charm, but anybody that's actually listened to him and heard what he says, as opposed to what they want to hear, will understand what I am saying about him.

His continual whining about the players and the team did, I think, finally reach a "come to Jesus" moment after the Griz Cat game. His head was slammed in the door and he had the most miserable week in his life. I do think that he finally realized that his DII experiences had not translated up to DI.

He realized vividly that his arrogant condescension about Ty Gregorak -- and his annoying asides about it throughout the season -- and his faith in replacing a successful DI DC with a relatively inexperienced DII DC had been badly misplaced and blew up on him in the most public way possible. He made a profound strategic error in staffing choices. No other way to put the lipstick on that pig. He f------ up, it hurt the Griz and it bolstered the Cats. And 26,182 people saw it live and understood that all too clearly by 3:30 p.m. November 19.

Choate's comments about our linemen stances had to have been humiliating since it was not only true, but gave a compelling talking point to every coach recruiting against us: "these guys don't even know how to play DI football." And 26,182 fans saw a local boy do some good kicking, an MSU recruit that Stitt rejected over the advice of his assistant staff.

Kent Haslam has had his conversation with Stitt. And Haslam was none too happy over the "firestorm" over Stitt that erupted after the Griz Cat game. Not my word. The assistant coaching staff has had their unhappy meeting with Stitt and Semore; this is a coaching staff very unhappy with how Stitt manages this team and they said so.

So, what "needs" improvement for 2017? Our Head Coach and his attitude.

Can that be fixed?

Optimistically, why not?

Pessimistically, how? I think he's got the picture, now, but much of that picture was painted by inexperience. How do you get that during an off-season? Well the good news is perhaps found in the assistants. That's a good staff. Stitt listening to them would be a good start.

All that noise and zero prediction.


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I,too, would like to see an honest prediction from 75 on the 2017 season.

I mean with all that insider intel, superior connections to athletes and social groups, 27 different professional titles and positions, and abilities to research, quote, and write essays comparable to the likes of "War and Peace", I can't think of any other prediction that would hold more weight than one from 75. Please enlighten us with a prediction for 2017.

My only ask is that you avoid the following:
- 3 celebrities will die in 2017
- Jennifer Lopez and Drake won't last
- the 49ers won't win the Super Bowl
- either JMU or YSU will win the FCS title on Saturday

You know, because those are obvious and we all know that your opinions on the Griz and coaches are anything but. Prediction please.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with the season, and why it occurred. Let's hear it. I would like your honest opinion.

 

[PlayerRep]

8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

I'm still not seeing anything in the last 20 or so posts related to the original post unless it is the premise that the coaching staff needs to do some self-examination, and then accept accountability next year as well. I think everybody gets that. Please move on.............. :x

What happened to the Griz season? Why did it go south and end so bad? You seem to have some info and ideas? What went wrong?

 

[Alaska Griz]

8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

I'm still not seeing anything in the last 20 or so posts related to the original post unless it is the premise that the coaching staff needs to do some self-examination, and then accept accountability next year as well. I think everybody gets that. Please move on.............. :x

What happened to the Griz season? Why did it go south and end so bad? You seem to have some info and ideas? What went wrong?

I think you're missing the point...posters are asking 75 to give a prediction on next season. that is all. At some point one can only yell so loudly and repeat over and over long-winded bashings of something or someone (at this point I can't tell the difference) before people say, ok, what is your solution? people have predicted things on here that were wrong, right, and somewhere in between for years...I have my ideas like the next person, but if you spend all day trying to spread negativity about something, run down people who disagree with you, and broadcast your disdain repeatedly without fail, then of course others will seek some change of pace and perhaps progression...essentially if everyone that 75 argues with is a troll and wrong about everything, then naturally a few will want to ask what the solution from the most outspoken poster is. It's a way of moving on and enjoying Griz football, because some of us can see the ebb and flow of these types of things. If Stitt fails long enough he'll be gone...he has some time yet to implement and develop his recruits and philosophy, as well as revise his philosophy and address his mistakes. There's also an entire staff involved in this whole thing and they all want to be better. I think you know this, but I can't figure out your stance. Ultimately, this board was designed to be...dare I say, fun? On a side note, I personally think AZ is a good poster, and probably a cool guy, who really roots for the team. At the end of the day, and this isn't directed at anyone individually, if you have all the answers, then by all means work your way up the ladder and lead the Griz to glory :lol:

 

[grzz]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

I've posted it several times, just like 75 has posted it several times. I am not attacking him in any way. You are always very polite in person, I don't understand why you are such a jerk on here sometimes. That really doesn't strike me as who you are.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Well, I've always said I thought Bob Stitt was a smart guy, but that his ego and stubbornness get in the way. And he's a nice enough guy, very cordial and has an infectious enthusiasm and that's part of his personal charm, but anybody that's actually listened to him and heard what he says, as opposed to what they want to hear, will understand what I am saying about him.

His continual whining about the players and the team did, I think, finally reach a "come to Jesus" moment after the Griz Cat game. His head was slammed in the door and he had the most miserable week in his life. I do think that he finally realized that his DII experiences had not translated up to DI.

He realized vividly that his arrogant condescension about Ty Gregorak -- and his annoying asides about it throughout the season -- and his faith in replacing a successful DI DC with a relatively inexperienced DII DC had been badly misplaced and blew up on him in the most public way possible. He made a profound strategic error in staffing choices. No other way to put the lipstick on that pig. He f------ up, it hurt the Griz and it bolstered the Cats. And 26,182 people saw it live and understood that all too clearly by 3:30 p.m. November 19.

Choate's comments about our linemen stances had to have been humiliating since it was not only true, but gave a compelling talking point to every coach recruiting against us: "these guys don't even know how to play DI football." And 26,182 fans saw a local boy do some good kicking, an MSU recruit that Stitt rejected over the advice of his assistant staff.

Kent Haslam has had his conversation with Stitt. And Haslam was none too happy over the "firestorm" over Stitt that erupted after the Griz Cat game. Not my word. The assistant coaching staff has had their unhappy meeting with Stitt and Semore; this is a coaching staff very unhappy with how Stitt manages this team and they said so.

So, what "needs" improvement for 2017? Our Head Coach and his attitude.

Can that be fixed?

Optimistically, why not?

Pessimistically, how? I think he's got the picture, now, but much of that picture was painted by inexperience. How do you get that during an off-season? Well the good news is perhaps found in the assistants. That's a good staff. Stitt listening to them would be a good start.

All that noise and zero prediction.


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I,too, would like to see an honest prediction from 75 on the 2017 season.

I mean with all that insider intel, superior connections to athletes and social groups, 27 different professional titles and positions, and abilities to research, quote, and write essays comparable to the likes of "War and Peace", I can't think of any other prediction that would hold more weight than one from 75. Please enlighten us with a prediction for 2017.

My only ask is that you avoid the following:
- 3 celebrities will die in 2017
- Jennifer Lopez and Drake won't last
- the 49ers won't win the Super Bowl
- either JMU or YSU will win the FCS title on Saturday

You know, because those are obvious and we all know that your opinions on the Griz and coaches are anything but. Prediction please.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with the season, and why it occurred. Let's hear it. I would like your honest opinion.

Happy to give you my honest opinion. I simply don't think the Griz were very good this year. I think youth lead to a lot of mistakes and inconsistent quarterback play killed us. I'm not sure if we had any great leadership both with players or in the coaching realm.

I think the lack of postseason awards is telling also. The Griz did not have one single player earn a first team all conference award. Heck, did we even have anyone on the second team?

I love the Griz, want them to be great every year, and I have high expectations just like the rest of us but this last year it just wasn't there. I think we will see some improvement this year but I still think we are 1 to 2 years away from consistent dominant play.

* edit as I just checked....ewu had 7 guys on first team all conference and 3 on second team. 10 total. Griz had 2 second teamers. That's a huge difference.

 

[UMGriz75]

8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

I'm still not seeing anything in the last 20 or so posts related to the original post unless it is the premise that the coaching staff needs to do some self-examination, and then accept accountability next year as well. I think everybody gets that. Please move on.............. :x

What happened to the Griz season? Why did it go south and end so bad? You seem to have some info and ideas? What went wrong?

I think you're missing the point...posters are asking 75 to give a prediction on next season. that is all. At some point one can only yell so loudly and repeat over and over long-winded bashings of something or someone (at this point I can't tell the difference) before people say, ok, what is your solution?

Well, the thread wasn't about predictions, it was about need for improvements. Right? In case it is tough for the geniuses who got all their predictions wrong, I estimated last year that this team had a negative trend in terms of key statistics and especially QB performance which declined with successive games under the same coach. This season came out worse than I thought. Do I see evidence of necessary change? In the words in a press conference as opposed to the season performance?

Do you think I should?

That's the point of the thread: what's the needed improvement? In my view, the coach needs a major attitude adjustment and needs to perhaps rely more on assistant staff. I specifically said that. I have also explicitly said that I don't favor throwing good money after bad, when the "bad" has an established track record, a'la Engstrom. I have specifically said I do not think that a DII coach can move to DI, based on that DII record, and expect success. Well, which part of that has been proven wrong so far? Which part of that do you not understand, and which do you need more help with?

If I repeated my views on the thread topic enough times, the same complete idiots would protest I was writing too much. The idiot above did just about as much. But, I have restated it, yet again, for the slow ones, of which there are several. My views just aren't that tough to distill unless you are an idiot.

In case it is just that tough: I don't see much improvement in our record, without changes. This is in distinct contrast to the same nitwits who thought we were going to playoffs this past year, and predict the same thing for next year without the slightest embarrassment of just how wrong they were, and how often they are wrong on any given prediction, game, assessment, including the guy who bets everything "paycheck to paycheck" and hasn't been able to make a single accurate prediction about anything yet.

Ask him, again, if you are that interested in useless opinions.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

You should hold 75 to the same standard. :lol:

 

[AZGrizFan]

I notice you stopped quoting your post riiiiiiiiight about the point where you started presenting opinion as fact. Well done. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Now you're scrambling. There was a reason that the second paragraph followed the first -- I apologize on that the writing style is too complex for you -- but the purpose was to "continue" the opinion. I would say that an idiot can see that, but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere.

Typical train wreck. Typical troll.

Keep backpedaling, troll.

And keep posting those keen insights from your multiple conversations with the movers and shakers inside the program. We all love those....

AZ, you used to be a pretty good poster. What happened? You are being more of a troll than 75? If you disagree with 75, tell us why. What is he saying that you believe is wrong? Personally, I find that posters who call another poster who is posting mostly substance, are showing that they have no arguments and essentially have run out of game.

I have no beef with 75. Why do you ask? Just calling out his hypocrisy when I see it...see the post above from him....MUUUCH better in terms of identifying fact from fiction...or opinion from fact. Maybe he IS trainable...

 

[PlayerRep]

8 areas of needed improvement for the 2017 Griz

I'm still not seeing anything in the last 20 or so posts related to the original post unless it is the premise that the coaching staff needs to do some self-examination, and then accept accountability next year as well. I think everybody gets that. Please move on.............. :x

What happened to the Griz season? Why did it go south and end so bad? You seem to have some info and ideas? What went wrong?

I think you're missing the point...posters are asking 75 to give a prediction on next season. that is all. At some point one can only yell so loudly and repeat over and over long-winded bashings of something or someone (at this point I can't tell the difference) before people say, ok, what is your solution? people have predicted things on here that were wrong, right, and somewhere in between for years...I have my ideas like the next person, but if you spend all day trying to spread negativity about something, run down people who disagree with you, and broadcast your disdain repeatedly without fail, then of course others will seek some change of pace and perhaps progression...essentially if everyone that 75 argues with is a troll and wrong about everything, then naturally a few will want to ask what the solution from the most outspoken poster is. It's a way of moving on and enjoying Griz football, because some of us can see the ebb and flow of these types of things. If Stitt fails long enough he'll be gone...he has some time yet to implement and develop his recruits and philosophy, as well as revise his philosophy and address his mistakes. There's also an entire staff involved in this whole thing and they all want to be better. I think you know this, but I can't figure out your stance. Ultimately, this board was designed to be...dare I say, fun? On a side note, I personally think AZ is a good poster, and probably a cool guy, who really roots for the team. At the end of the day, and this isn't directed at anyone individually, if you have all the answers, then by all means work your way up the ladder and lead the Griz to glory :lol:

Nope, wasn't missing any point. Was just asking a question. Also, don't see the reason that someone pointing out problems needs to offer solutions, or make predictions. Those are different things. I don't know how people can offer solutions if they don't know the reasons for the problems and what all the problems were.

 

[PlayerRep]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

I've posted it several times, just like 75 has posted it several times. I am not attacking him in any way. You are always very polite in person, I don't understand why you are such a jerk on here sometimes. That really doesn't strike me as who you are.

I didn't say you were attacking 75. Where did you get that? Was there something in my post, which essentially asked you a question, that caused you to make the jerk comment? Or where did that random comment come from?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Nope, wasn't missing any point. Was just asking a question. Also, don't see the reason that someone pointing out problems needs to offer solutions, or make predictions. Those are different things. I don't know how people can offer solutions if they don't know the reasons for the problems and what all the problems were.

Well, if one didn't give the impression that they KNEW the reasons for the problems perhaps one wouldn't be asked to provide solutions to said problems.

 

[PlayerRep]

All that noise and zero prediction.


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I,too, would like to see an honest prediction from 75 on the 2017 season.

I mean with all that insider intel, superior connections to athletes and social groups, 27 different professional titles and positions, and abilities to research, quote, and write essays comparable to the likes of "War and Peace", I can't think of any other prediction that would hold more weight than one from 75. Please enlighten us with a prediction for 2017.

My only ask is that you avoid the following:
- 3 celebrities will die in 2017
- Jennifer Lopez and Drake won't last
- the 49ers won't win the Super Bowl
- either JMU or YSU will win the FCS title on Saturday

You know, because those are obvious and we all know that your opinions on the Griz and coaches are anything but. Prediction please.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with the season, and why it occurred. Let's hear it. I would like your honest opinion.

Happy to give you my honest opinion. I simply don't think the Griz were very good this year. I think youth lead to a lot of mistakes and inconsistent quarterback play killed us. I'm not sure if we had any great leadership both with players or in the coaching realm.

I think the lack of postseason awards is telling also. The Griz did not have one single player earn a first team all conference award. Heck, did we even have anyone on the second team?

I love the Griz, want them to be great every year, and I have high expectations just like the rest of us but this last year it just wasn't there. I think we will see some improvement this year but I still think we are 1 to 2 years away from consistent dominant play.

* edit as I just checked....ewu had 7 guys on first team all conference and 3 on second team. 10 total. Griz had 2 second teamers. That's a huge difference.

Thx.

 

[PlayerRep]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

You should hold 75 to the same standard. :lol:

I do hold 75 to the same standard. I haven't noticed any extra words--just lots of words.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I would like to see 75's prediction for the record next year. Just that, no extra words.

I would like to see what you think went wrong with this past season. Just that. No extra words. What was it?

You should hold 75 to the same standard. :lol:

I do hold 75 to the same standard. I haven't noticed any extra words--just lots of words.

Yeah, but you're a lawyer. Your definition of "extra words" doesn't apply here.

 

[argh!]

... seems to me that a good percentage of griz players have enough pride that their response to such a comment would be to go out the next game and play with as much energy as they possess in order to prove they don't lack fire.

If that's what you saw, instead of the 24-17 loss to a 2-6 conference team with a freshman quarterback, obviously you don't need to watch actual football games. The make-believe ones are much easier for you.

you really are an insufferable twit. did i say they played well as a team? no, i said that some players would use negative comments as a sort of motivation and come out and play hard. and no, i'm not saying i think that making negative comments about players is a good way for a coach to motivate, although if you look at how pelini at youngstown coaches, it seems to work for some.

ok, flail away (again...).

 

[greasewood]

19. Less horizontal passing offense (far too many running back & wide receiver screens) & more vertical passing offense (downfield passing). The defenses have this offense figured out. Nothing special about it anymore unless the blocking gets much better. How many screen plays resulted in minimal gains or lost yardage?

20. Change the offensive formations once in a while. Bring back the tight end on occasion. Confuse & surprise the defenses & don't use the same plays over & over.

21. More trick plays. Flea flickers, reverses, running back passes, jump passes, etc. How about using the wildcat?

22. IMPROVE THE KICKING GAME! How hard is it to make an extra point? How many were missed last year? The kicking game was pathetic.

23. GET THE FIRE BACK! KICK THE SH*T OUT OF EVERY TEAM YOU PLAY ON EVERY DOWN!

 

[Grizzoola]

23. GET THE FIRE BACK! KICK THE SH*T OUT OF EVERY TEAM YOU PLAY ON EVERY DOWN!

Starting w/ the first down of the game!

 

[UMGriz75]

you really are an insufferable twit.

The pleasure of pointing out your continuous errors, starting with the JJ Trial, has been illuminating; in this case, the "twit" is in the eye of the beholder ...

 

[AZGrizFan]

you really are an insufferable twit.

The pleasure of pointing out your continuous errors, starting with the JJ Trial, has been illuminating; in this case, the "twit" is in the eye of the beholder ...

Is that a fact, or your opinion?