3 Griz Arrested

[Umista]

One of my sadistic employees thought the poor owner had a teenage female in the house and that led one of the more than crazy kids to check it out, hence the sneaking in of the construction area. Of course that falls on pure bull poo. If what I can understand about the incident I would have ran like hell if I was the owner. In fact it is lucky the intruding kids did not get gut shot! Perhaps we can all be thankfull no one is dead.

When all the hoop-la gets over with very little serious "stuff" will come of this event. I have spoken...and I am as dumb as the next guy!

 

[snap]

Make them all help with finishing the construction work.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Good God, PR/75.

You're trying to assign rational thought to what is clearly an irrational behavior. Who knows -- or better yet who CARES -- why they did what they did. To stay dry? They broke the law. To raise hell? They broke the law. Because one of them took woodshop in junior high and wanted to see a real 2 by 4? They broke the law.

There's only one important sentence in that paragraph. It's repeated 3 times. THEY BROKE THE LAW. Period. Discussion over.

+1 billion. Upperclassmen.

 

[EverettGriz]

And I think they got clearly screwed by whoever set bond at $50k, is there any recourse on that?

I can't say for certain, and I'm not really inclined to look it up, but I'd guess that the $50,000 bail is set in the MCAs (likely the maximum) for burglary charges. So I don't think they got screwed; in fact someone allowing them bail before their initial appearance likely prevented most of them from spending the remainder of the weekend in jail.

My guess is that bail will be reduced.

 

[SACCAT66]

I am just glad no MSU Bobcat athletes have been arrested for....What.....A Basketball player???...theft and a grocery store?

Well SON OF A BITCH!!!

 

[PlayerRep]

Good God, PR/75.

You're trying to assign rational thought to what is clearly an irrational behavior. Who knows -- or better yet who CARES -- why they did what they did. To stay dry? They broke the law. To raise hell? They broke the law. Because one of them took woodshop in junior high and wanted to see a real 2 by 4? They broke the law.

There's only one important sentence in that paragraph. It's repeated 3 times. THEY BROKE THE LAW. Period. Discussion over.

Nope, discussion not over. There's a huge difference between misdemeanor trespassing and felony burglary.

Lot's posters say they have gone into a house/building under construction. Are you saying they should have been prosecuted?

Have you ever driven over the speed limit? Done a rolling stop? I bet you've gone onto someone's property, or even gone into a construction site.

Good god, Everett. Post things that make some sense.

 

[EverettGriz]

There's a huge difference between misdemeanor trespassing and felony burglary.

Is ANYONE arguing this point?

The remainder of your post is simply the mutterings of a lunatic, so I won't address those.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

Well, they were waiting for their ride to show up, suggesting that they were not out "prowling" for trouble, but in fact were trying to go home.

maybe they got to wet to continue prowling.... :thumb:

Maybe they had enough rain for 24 hours and decided to escape it.

 

[PlayerRep]

There's a huge difference between misdemeanor trespassing and felony burglary.

Is ANYONE arguing this point?

The remainder of your post is simply the mutterings of a lunatic, so I won't address those.

You are. You are saying that breaking the law is breaking the law, and the consequences should be the same no matter what. You seem to be indicating that you have never broken the law.

 

[statler & waldorf]

And I think they got clearly screwed by whoever set bond at $50k, is there any recourse on that?

I can't say for certain, and I'm not really inclined to look it up, but I'd guess that the $50,000 bail is set in the MCAs (likely the maximum) for burglary charges. So I don't think they got screwed; in fact someone allowing them bail before their initial appearance likely prevented most of them from spending the remainder of the weekend in jail.

My guess is that bail will be reduced.

Per Pabst, they are OUT, bond returned to whomever. Those who paid a bondsman just got a $5,000 enema.

 

[Fahque]

And I think they got clearly screwed by whoever set bond at $50k, is there any recourse on that?

I can't say for certain, and I'm not really inclined to look it up, but I'd guess that the $50,000 bail is set in the MCAs (likely the maximum) for burglary charges. So I don't think they got screwed; in fact someone allowing them bail before their initial appearance likely prevented most of them from spending the remainder of the weekend in jail.

My guess is that bail will be reduced.

There is actually a bail schedule that recommends bail amounts. The recommended amount for a burglary charge is no bond. So they were lucky to even get a $50,000 bail. $50,000 is the maximum fine that can be levied against an individual convicted of burglary.

 

[NDSUSR]

If the homeowner heard them discussing taking anything while in his home then that is intent.
It would justify the felony charge.

When the dust settles the charge will be reduced to a misdemeanor.
Montana has a slim chance to make the playoffs so what does Coach do?
He will suspend them, the year will end and he will have done "the right thing" and protect UM's reputation.
Counts will more then likely be back next year.

Just my two cents.

 

[Griz2k]

Good God, PR/75.

You're trying to assign rational thought to what is clearly an irrational behavior. Who knows -- or better yet who CARES -- why they did what they did. To stay dry? They broke the law. To raise hell? They broke the law. Because one of them took woodshop in junior high and wanted to see a real 2 by 4? They broke the law.

There's only one important sentence in that paragraph. It's repeated 3 times. THEY BROKE THE LAW. Period. Discussion over.

Nope, discussion not over. There's a huge difference between misdemeanor trespassing and felony burglary.

Lot's posters say they have gone into a house/building under construction. Are you saying they should have been prosecuted?

Have you ever driven over the speed limit? Done a rolling stop? I bet you've gone onto someone's property, or even gone into a construction site.

Good god, Everett. Post things that make some sense.

You're both right. They broke the law. The level of which is still to be determined.

 

[bigkid]

If the homeowner heard them discussing taking anything while in his home then that is intent.
It would justify the felony charge.

When the dust settles the charge will be reduced to a misdemeanor.
Montana has a slim chance to make the playoffs so what does Coach do?
He will suspend them, the year will end and he will have done "the right thing" and protect UM's reputation.
Counts will more then likely be back next year.

Just my two cents.

:twocents: Here's your two cents back. Not wanted!

 

[PlayerRep]

If the homeowner heard them discussing taking anything while in his home then that is intent.
It would justify the felony charge.

When the dust settles the charge will be reduced to a misdemeanor.
Montana has a slim chance to make the playoffs so what does Coach do?
He will suspend them, the year will end and he will have done "the right thing" and protect UM's reputation.
Counts will more then likely be back next year.

Just my two cents.

What the homeowner said he heard was not intent. That's why the county attorney said that, as of this morning, there was not enough evidence to charge as a felony.

 

[NDSUSR]

If the homeowner heard them discussing taking anything while in his home then that is intent.
It would justify the felony charge.

When the dust settles the charge will be reduced to a misdemeanor.
Montana has a slim chance to make the playoffs so what does Coach do?
He will suspend them, the year will end and he will have done "the right thing" and protect UM's reputation.
Counts will more then likely be back next year.

Just my two cents.

What the homeowner said he heard was not intent. That's why the county attorney said that, as of this morning, there was not enough evidence to charge as a felony.

What else would a lawyer defending her/his client say?
The police after interviewing the homeowner thought it was burglary. We dont know what the homeowner said yet.
Like I said, it will end up being a misdemeanor in the end.

 

[Umista]

The Trolls are out in full force. Why? For starters their team is falling, losing, close to dead and smelling like a bad case of foot rot. Losers always try to pounce on teams that are doing well or at least better than they are.

But losers are simply losers and they take their venting out on others to make themselves feel better. No such thing as a good troll.

 

[Copper Griz]

Stop. Just stop. Excuse making. Enabling, whatever the hell you want to call it. The program now needs to be at zero tolerance. Period.

I agree with the zero tolerance stance at this point, but your "stop just stop" part made it sound like you were having a break down, like "I cant take it anymore." I don't deal well with that kind of emotion. I just want to hear facts so I can make my own opinions. I appreciate when PR gives us facts so it helps me better develop my own opinion. But bottom line, it would be zero tolerance.

I don't kmow if I can't take anymore is appropriate when we are discussing a collegiate team. I don't live or die by wins, losses or what the press says about the football team. The intent of my post was to say Stop making excuses. Enough already. You do the crime - you do the time. Three U of M players broke the law. Call it criminal trespass or whatever the heck else makes every enabling fan feel good. They broke the law and are part of a program that really doesn't need bad press. PR is not objective - he is a fan that many would categorize as too close to the program. Creepy close at times. The criminal justice system will take care of this - not some damn prejudiced fans (including myself). I just can't stand the excuses and enabling that is now part of,our culture. Minimize, blame others and spin. Spin spin spin.

 

[SoldierGriz]

I am not underwriting any of this. What they did was wrong...felony or misdemeanor. They probably don't deserve to go to jail, but they forfeited the privilege of playing football for the University of Montana. Personally, I don't go onto other peoples property without permission. I learned this hunting in Montana. You know...ask permission, close fences, gift to property owner. Not hard.

We will see what Stitt is made of on this topic. First big, public disciplary decision and statement to follow. Hope he rises to the occasion.

 

[Copper Griz]

Good God, PR/75.

You're trying to assign rational thought to what is clearly an irrational behavior. Who knows -- or better yet who CARES -- why they did what they did. To stay dry? They broke the law. To raise hell? They broke the law. Because one of them took woodshop in junior high and wanted to see a real 2 by 4? They broke the law.

There's only one important sentence in that paragraph. It's repeated 3 times. THEY BROKE THE LAW. Period. Discussion over.

Bullseye! I really don't know how you refute - They Broke The Law. Black or white. No grey here.