3 Griz Arrested

[AZGrizFan]

Counts would have probably tried to run except he might get "hurt" and he knew Schmaing wouldn't have made the key block anyway....

It took 15 pages for it to come down to this.

The brutal truth of the matter. :? :| :|

 

[grizindabox]

. The window isn't that far off of the sidewalk, you could practically jump into the window opening which really is quite large. There is rough scaffolding there. The structure was, in fact, open to the elements and any stray coyotes, deer, dogs, cats, birds, wombats and college students.

Had anyone been injured, this would have been an "attractive nuisance" case. Although major construction is obviously underway, there are no signs posted

I'm not sure which of these is the most disturbingly creepy thing here.

That this guy apparently has already staked out the house, that he's passive-aggressively blaming the home owners, or that he's comparing UM student-athletes to wildlife in terms of judgement.

:shock:

Aside from you and your creepiness, I live in the neighborhood. I am not "blaming" the owners, I am describing how it appears from the street -- you know, facts and stuff like that. The point is (or was) that nobody had to "break in" to gain access. The access was open to anyone or anything.

Did I miss something, they were charged with burglary...I was unaware that 'breaking-in" was necessary for such a charge....

 

[PlayerRep]

Sounds more like the Mayors house deal

that was already brought up by PR, but rejected since those players had their schollys yanked and suspended from playing for 1 year

But you can continue down that line of thought if you want :thumb:

Nope, nothing was rejected. The Cat incident revealed that it was only charged as a misdemeanor. The Cat incident included running from the cops twice. It also included being in the main part of the house--not a room without direct access to the house (which appears to be the case). And the Cat incident didn't involve a house that was under construction and may not have seemed to be occupied. Those would likely make a difference. We'll have to see if UM incident has more bad facts, or doesn't have more bad facts. The facts will influence the situation, both with the prosecutors and the school. Again, if there are not more bad facts for the UM incident, then the Cat incident was worse, and perhaps merited more punishment.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Did I miss something, they were charged with burglary...I was unaware that 'breaking-in" was necessary for such a charge....

It's the home owner's fault anyhow. Apparently 5 adults, including 3 veteran football players, have the same mentality as a child who climbs up an unsecured ladder and gets hurt on private property.

 

[UMGriz75]

You posted that if someone was injured, it would be an "attractive nuisance" case for not securing the property. Those cases are typically for children who get injured, not grown men invading a structure at 2:30 am, although I'm quite sure some Griz fan attorney wouldn't mine trying to sue those evil homeowners for their unsecured/unmarked project.

Fans like you are why the program is such a Stitt show right now. I'm guessing that you've even considered contacting the city about this unmarked eyesore that 5 adults simply could not resist exploring.

When does the coddling stop?

You are full of yourself. Yes, an open structure on Halloween with tons of kids walking up and down Pattee Canyon Drive ... no problem for you. The "point" is that I live in the neighborhood and my youngest daughter moved in across the street two months ago for graduate school at UM. I've seen this construction going on for quite some time. I can accurately describe what the college guys saw, because I've seen the project evolve. If you don't like the description or it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, well tough bunnies for you.

The idea that they "broke in" in order to frighten a family or to "steal stuff" is not plausible. I was surprised to find that the owners were living in back because of the extent of the renovations. I wouldn't have expected it and I see it in broad daylight.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

Nope, nothing was rejected. The Cat incident revealed that it was only charged as a misdemeanor. The Cat incident included running from the cops twice. That would likely have made a difference. We'll have to see if UM incident has more bad facts, or doesn't have more bad facts. The facts will influence the situation, both with the prosecutors and the school. Again, if there are not more bad facts for the UM incident, then the Cat incident was worse, and perhaps merited more punishment.

Haha. OK there buddy. :lol:

 

[nzone]

It's funny but with all I've read on here the only one who seems to have a grasp on the situation is the home owner. He sees it as it is......stupidity and nothing more. :thumb:

 

[SoldierGriz]

Sounds more like the Mayors house deal

that was already brought up by PR, but rejected since those players had their schollys yanked and suspended from playing for 1 year

But you can continue down that line of thought if you want :thumb:

Nope, nothing was rejected. The Cat incident revealed that it was only charged as a misdemeanor. The Cat incident included running from the cops twice. It also included being in the main part of the house--not a room without direct access to the house (which appears to be the case). And the Cat incident didn't involve a house that was under construction and may not have seemed to be occupied. Those would likely make a difference. We'll have to see if UM incident has more bad facts, or doesn't have more bad facts. The facts will influence the situation, both with the prosecutors and the school. Again, if there are not more bad facts for the UM incident, then the Cat incident was worse, and perhaps merited more punishment.

Seriously, who gives a sh!t what the cats do?

 

[PlayerRep]

Sorry I am late to the party. I am trying to catch up here.

So, if I am reading all this correctly, 3 Griz players broke into a house in the middle of the night to gang rape a chihuahua??

Wow, that is f***[*] up man!

Is going into an unfinished room above a garage, through a large opening--in a house being renovated and when the room isn't directed connected to the house, "breaking in"? I'm curious about why they went in (and scooted up the ladder).

Phase 2 of this ordeal: KVA, Counts and Schmaing contract with an aggressive lawyer and file suit against the home owner for failing to take reasonable measure to secure the property. The case goes to court after a change in venue to Kaisell and KVA is awarded a multi million dollar award for damages and loss of an NFL career, Counts too is awarded generously as is Schmaing but Schmaing is also awarded the deed to the property in question for the additional pain and suffering it has caused.

Funny that you say this, as I was wondering what would have happened if someone fell through an uncompleted floor (and got seriously hurt) after entering an unsecured construction site. Just occurred to me after reading that the site/building didn't seem to have been secured. Glad no one was hurt, of course.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

You are full of yourself. Yes, an open structure on Halloween with tons of kids walking up and down Pattee Canyon Drive ... no problem for you. The "point" is that I live in the neighborhood and my youngest daughter moved in across the street two months ago for graduate school at UM. I've seen this construction going on for quite some time. I can accurately describe what the college guys saw, because I've seen the project evolve. If you don't like the description or it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, well tough bunnies for you.

The idea that they "broke in" in order to frighten a family or to "steal stuff" is not plausible. I was surprised to find that the owners were living in back because of the extent of the renovations. I wouldn't have expected it and I see it in broad daylight.

So you're saying that for two months the project has been on-going, and not a single child was "attracted" to investigate it, even on Halloween, yet 5 adults, including 3 football players, were the first to "explore" it.

Delusional. Some of you fanatics haven't learned a thing about disciplining players. They got their asses kicked in a monsoon in Portland, and their bright idea of senior leaders is to get back to Missoula, go out on Halloween until 2:30am, walk into a construction project on private property, and yet some of you clowns still defend them.

 

[NorthwestFresh]

It's funny but with all I've read on here the only one who seems to have a grasp on the situation is the home owner. He sees it as it is......stupidity and nothing more. :thumb:

That's not true. He said much more than that, but if I posted just one quote it would be "cherry-picking."

 

[Grisly Fan]

Maybe the University needs to do mandatory training on entering unsecured construction sites?

 

[UMGriz75]

Did I miss something, they were charged with burglary...I was unaware that 'breaking-in" was necessary for such a charge....

Nobody claimed that it was, but a post mentioned "breaking in" which is a plausible assumption for getting inside a structure ... until you know about this one. It is a potential charge, indeed it is the felony bail that was set.

"BURGLARY/BREAKING AND ENTERING
The unlawful entry into an occupied building or other structure with the intent to commit a felony or a theft."

Whereas trespass is a misdemeanor.

 

[tnt]

I'm not sure what is the funniest here, really. There is one group of really intelligent folk having absolutely one of the funniest discussions based hypotheticals I have read in some time. Then there are those who its passed over at 30,000 feet getting their panties in a wad because they are buying into it hook line and sinker. Keep it going guys. You are out doing yourselves.

One can hardly blame PR and UM for buying in, though. There isn't a lot of Oxygen at 30,000 feet.

 

[UMGriz75]

They got their asses kicked in a monsoon in Portland, and their bright idea of senior leaders is to get back to Missoula, go out on Halloween until 2:30am, walk into a construction project on private property, and yet some of you clowns still defend them.

The only "clown" here is you, desperately wanting a fair trial and fast hanging, and damn the facts of the case.

 

[Ken Jones]

It's funny but with all I've read on here the only one who seems to have a grasp on the situation is the home owner. He sees it as it is......stupidity and nothing more. :thumb:

"Sir, sorry, we are curious young adults; sorry, we entered your construction site; sorry, we frighten your family and you, but do we really deserve this level of prosecution and punishment?"

I say, "No." :clap: It was Halloween! C'mon Man! :roll:

 

[nzone]

My only hope is the Missoula Police Dept. doesnt drag their feet and gets to the bottom of this.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

It's funny but with all I've read on here the only one who seems to have a grasp on the situation is the home owner. He sees it as it is......stupidity and nothing more. :thumb:

That's not true. He said much more than that, but if I posted just one quote it would be "cherry-picking."

Please enlighten us. Homeowner was quoted saying " I hope that they aren't guilty of much more than being extraordinarily stupid."

Here is the link if you don't believe me.
http://www.montanakaimin.com/news/article_627dd83a-80cd-11e5-9c4d-cfe8c02a41b9.html

I recognize that the homeowner said much more, however you are trying to make a point in a particularly coy way. Please get to the point.

 

[UMGriz75]

So you're saying that for two months the project has been on-going, and not a single child was "attracted" to investigate it, even on Halloween, yet 5 adults, including 3 football players, were the first to "explore" it.

I had no idea that no kids were attracted to it. "Not a single one." And you know this .... how? Giant brain power?

Your desire to fabricate facts obviously exceeds any desire you might have to appear at least minimally rational.

 

[grizindabox]

For the record, I see it getting knocked down to misdemeanor trespass at best...it is just fun watching 75 and PR do there bidness...