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2027 Montana Recruiting (13) Verbals & (44) Offers

This kid will be a junior this fall, but wow. Watch his highlight reel and see how many of his biggest plays were against the Glacier team that went undefeated and buried most teams
So the fact that he's only a rising junior brings up a really interesting point. A cursory search tells me that June 15th was the first day that 2028 recruits were allowed to be contacted by coaches. But this kid posted that he received an offer from the cats on May 31st. Wouldn't that be a recruiting violation?
 
So the fact that he's only a rising junior brings up a really interesting point. A cursory search tells me that June 15th was the first day that 2028 recruits were allowed to be contacted by coaches. But this kid posted that he received an offer from the cats on May 31st. Wouldn't that be a recruiting violation?
You see kids get scholarship offers in 8th grade. They tell the coach who tells the player, or something similar to that. Not uncommon at all. Also, the players can reach out to the coach. Coach just can't reach out to the player.
 
You see kids get scholarship offers in 8th grade. They tell the coach who tells the player, or something similar to that. Not uncommon at all. Also, the players can reach out to the coach. Coach just can't reach out to the player.
So you're admitting that they broke the rules but it's okay because everybody does it? Hmm.

(You're a good dude and I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. And I'm realizing that there's lots of ways around the supposed rules. But it seems hinky nonetheless.)
 
So you're admitting that they broke the rules but it's okay because everybody does it? Hmm.

(You're a good dude and I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. And I'm realizing that there's lots of ways around the supposed rules. But it seems hinky nonetheless.)
It’s not breaking the rules. If they wanted to curtail stuff like this, they would.



I know you’d never pick a fight Mom! I have the upmost respect for you, you’re great!
 
So once again I'm on a learning curve I guess. I get what you all are saying about those early offers, but then what's the point of having contact periods at all? The rules clearly state that coaches aren't supposed to reach out to players until June 15th after their sophomore year, but that's obviously not the case and maybe hasn't been for a very long time. I guess the point could be made that it's the players reaching out to the coaches and not the other way around, but I'm not sure I really believe that. Either follow the rules or don't have them at all is my belief.
 
So once again I'm on a learning curve I guess. I get what you all are saying about those early offers, but then what's the point of having contact periods at all? The rules clearly state that coaches aren't supposed to reach out to players until June 15th after their sophomore year, but that's obviously not the case and maybe hasn't been for a very long time. I guess the point could be made that it's the players reaching out to the coaches and not the other way around, but I'm not sure I really believe that. Either follow the rules or don't have them at all is my belief.
Without doing any research, I'm guessing the rule maybe specifies which coaches cant contact or doesn't specifically state zero contact from anyone at the school so there's certainly avenues around it that aren't necessarily breaking the rules, but yes, it does seem pointless to have the rule if your going to allow these other avenues which are obviously just as effective.
 
So once again I'm on a learning curve I guess. I get what you all are saying about those early offers, but then what's the point of having contact periods at all? The rules clearly state that coaches aren't supposed to reach out to players until June 15th after their sophomore year, but that's obviously not the case and maybe hasn't been for a very long time. I guess the point could be made that it's the players reaching out to the coaches and not the other way around, but I'm not sure I really believe that. Either follow the rules or don't have them at all is my belief.
My understanding is that the way it is usually done is that the college coach calls the local high school coach and tells them that there will be a scholarship waiting for the 8th grader when the time comes and they expect the coach to tell that player. With that done, the school hasn't actually contacted the player. They also say it is "unofficial and non-binding," so it doesn't count as an actual scholarship offer.

Your overall point I agree with, and I think the majority of people would agree with the statement that "if there is a rule against something, then there shouldn't be so much willingness to allow loopholes that violate the spirit of the rule." Unfortunately, college sports threw that out the window a long time ago.

I got curious so I googled the youngest players ever offered scholarships. I was actually deeply appalled to find out the youngest kid ever offered a football scholarship was 9 years old. That's just messing with a child's head at that point.
 
Without doing any research, I'm guessing the rule maybe specifies which coaches cant contact or doesn't specifically state zero contact from anyone at the school so there's certainly avenues around it that aren't necessarily breaking the rules, but yes, it does seem pointless to have the rule if your going to allow these other avenues which are obviously just as effective.
They have the rule so the kid isn't inundated with texts and phone calls in 7th grade and up.
 
Per Claude AI:


The June 15 date you've noticed is the NCAA's "first contact" rule for Division I football: coaches can't initiate any private communication — texts, emails, calls, DMs — with a recruit until June 15 after that player's sophomore year of high school. Before that, all coaches can legally send is camp brochures and non-athletic institutional materials, going back to freshman year. So strictly by the calendar, a true freshman shouldn't be hearing from a coach directly at all.


But football is one of a handful of sports — along with basketball and baseball/softball — that's exempt from the broader rule barring scholarship offers before that point. The other sports have to wait until June 15 sophomore year or September 1 junior year to extend any kind of offer, but football, basketball, and baseball coaches aren't bound by that restriction, which is how programs end up offering kids as young as 7th grade. The way that works mechanically is that the offer almost never comes as a direct call or DM to a 13-year-old, since that part is still restricted. Instead, a coach who's genuinely interested can extend a non-binding verbal offer at any age, often by going through the recruit's high school or club coach rather than contacting the kid directly, or it happens face-to-face during a camp or a self-initiated campus visit, or even just gets relayed informally and then the family or coach posts the graphic on social media themselves. None of that counts as the NCAA's regulated "contact," so it's technically compliant even though it lands well before any official window opens.


It's also worth knowing that the lower divisions don't play by the same clock at all. NAIA programs can contact athletes and make offers throughout high school whenever they want, and D2/D3 are similarly loose compared to D1.


The other thing worth keeping in mind: a verbal offer to a freshman or middle schooler is exactly that — verbal, and not legally binding in any way until the player actually signs, which doesn't happen until senior year via the National Letter of Intent. It's leverage and buzz-building on both sides (the program locks in early interest, the recruit and recruiting media get a storyline), but it can evaporate just as fast as it appeared if the player's film, measurables, or the program's needs change over the next two or three years.
 
I got curious so I googled the youngest players ever offered scholarships. I was actually deeply appalled to find out the youngest kid ever offered a football scholarship was 9 years old. That's just messing with a child's head at that point.
Im gonna go out on a limb and guess an SEC school was responsible for this.
 
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