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2023 O-Line

dupuyer griz said:
horribilisfan8184 said:
If Germer is not gone, he should be on a one-year leash and spend now until spring ball with the 4 best o-line coaches/strength and conditioning coaches in the nfl and learn what today's coaching drills and methods and blocking schemes work best at that level.

Guys been on what should be a 1 year leash for what feels like 10 years.

He's never been on one-year leash.
 
Did you guys just see the recruit we flipped from EWU? 6’6 295 lbs wrecking ball!

https://twitter.com/montanagrizfb/status/1605640613692469248?s=61&t=oFr6BQwM2NNnWDGvCrNbRA
 
HookedonGriz said:
Did you guys just see the recruit we flipped from EWU? 6’6 295 lbs wrecking ball!

https://twitter.com/montanagrizfb/status/1605640613692469248?s=61&t=oFr6BQwM2NNnWDGvCrNbRA

Nice! Thanks for sharing
 
SoldierGriz said:
heightsgriz said:
OK, I don’t know squat about O-Line play, coaching, grading or scouting. That’s why I’m asking a serious question about this group.
I’m curious about the egriz o-line “experts”. Just assume we don’t get a single drop-down O-lineman this off season – who are the starters for 2023?
2022 had some young players and it wasn’t a banner year for the Griz O-Line but it was actually a little better than I expected. They performed well at times and will now have another year of strength training, coaching and competition. Who do you expect to step up?
I know there is an overwhelming urge for some of you to post snarky comments about coaching and I get that but can we please just have some serious posts about this group’s potential?

Gerrit Bloemendaal 6’3” Senior
Cody Kanouse 6’2” 310 lb Senior
AJ Forbes 6’2” 285 lb Senior
Dillon Botner 6’6” 285 lb Junior
Hunter Mayginnes 6’5” 325 lb Senior
Kevin Good 6’4” 290 lb Soph
Ethan Barney 6’4” 300 lb RS Frosh
Brandon Casey 6’5” 295 lb Junior
Colin Dreis 6’7” 275 lb Junior
Kukila Lincoln 6’5” 286 lb Soph
Declan McCabe 6’4” 279lb Soph
Journey Grimsrud 6’3” 280 lb Soph
Michael Ray 6’3” 281 RS Frosh
Liam Brown 6’5” 310 Soph

Same discussion...different year...groundhog day.

At this point, anyone who believes Griz O-linemen progress year over year has completely lost their mind.

This is and has been the elephant in the room for YEARS. Current coaches cannot and do not develop the position group effectively. Period.

Better hope for 3-4 drop down d-linemen to convert.

So your opinion is Germer can't coach the o-line? When was the last time we had 2 All Big Sky lineman? Pretty young group this year too
 
Hurdlingriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Same discussion...different year...groundhog day.

At this point, anyone who believes Griz O-linemen progress year over year has completely lost their mind.

This is and has been the elephant in the room for YEARS. Current coaches cannot and do not develop the position group effectively. Period.

Better hope for 3-4 drop down d-linemen to convert.

So your opinion is Germer can't coach the o-line? When was the last time we had 2 All Big Sky lineman? Pretty young group this year too

I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"
 
Ursus1 said:
Hurdlingriz said:
So your opinion is Germer can't coach the o-line? When was the last time we had 2 All Big Sky lineman? Pretty young group this year too

I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"
So every successful OL we've had has been luck, and every one that didn't work out was his fault? If Mayginnes and Forbes improved, it has nothing to do with Germer?

Am I doing this right? I don't particularly like the guy as a coach, and think we should get someone else, but it seems weird how conveniently everything works out to scapegoat him here.
 
Ursus1 said:
Hurdlingriz said:
So your opinion is Germer can't coach the o-line? When was the last time we had 2 All Big Sky lineman? Pretty young group this year too

I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"

There are lots of young o-linemen in the mix. O-line was improved last year in season 3 and better this year in season 4. Still recovering from Stitt.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Did you guys just see the recruit we flipped from EWU? 6’6 295 lbs wrecking ball!

https://twitter.com/montanagrizfb/status/1605640613692469248?s=61&t=oFr6BQwM2NNnWDGvCrNbRA

Nice! Thanks for sharing
 
uofmman1122 said:
Ursus1 said:
I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"
So every successful OL we've had has been luck, and every one that didn't work out was his fault? If Mayginnes and Forbes improved, it has nothing to do with Germer?

Am I doing this right? I don't particularly like the guy as a coach, and think we should get someone else, but it seems weird how conveniently everything works out to scapegoat him here.

Ya, i think you're doing that right
 
Hurdlingriz said:
SoldierGriz said:
Same discussion...different year...groundhog day.

At this point, anyone who believes Griz O-linemen progress year over year has completely lost their mind.

This is and has been the elephant in the room for YEARS. Current coaches cannot and do not develop the position group effectively. Period.

Better hope for 3-4 drop down d-linemen to convert.

So your opinion is Germer can't coach the o-line? When was the last time we had 2 All Big Sky lineman? Pretty young group this year too

Where have you been? Yeah - Germer is absolutely the weak link on the staff.
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ursus1 said:
I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"

There are lots of young o-linemen in the mix. O-line was improved last year in season 3 and better this year in season 4. Still recovering from Stitt.

Germer was hired by Stitt...he owns those years as well.
 
go96griz said:
BWahlberg said:
2022 starting O-line is the 2023 starting O-line. Nice to have some consistency there

Isn't left tackle Chris Walker a senior?
Word on the street is he was granted another year (probably a late medical redshirt).
 
mthoopsfan said:
Ursus1 said:
I think you accidently answered your own question....haven't had them (he has been the coach so who is to blame for the other years), young (he has been the coach and 3 of the 5 are transfers so apparently he hasn't been stocking he cupboard (or at least with quality) or running them off. This year they needed converted a dline guy (actually 2 of them)to pass up all his other recruits he has been "coaching"

There are lots of young o-linemen in the mix. O-line was improved last year in season 3 and better this year in season 4. Still recovering from Stitt.

Germer was the o Line coach with Stitt as the hc. Germer has been with the program since 2015, and we have had an injured starting qb every year since.
 
HookedonGriz said:
Sounds like Chris Walker may have been granted another year which would be big news. Nothing official yet
For a guy who played that position one year he really did a hell of a job. He has the size and the nastiness, he was only missing the experience. Another year with him would be great!
Would it be a medical redshirt?
 
Griz Addict said:
mthoopsfan said:
There are lots of young o-linemen in the mix. O-line was improved last year in season 3 and better this year in season 4. Still recovering from Stitt.

Germer was the o Line coach with Stitt as the hc. Germer has been with the program since 2015, and we have had an injured starting qb every year since.

So in reality 7 years he has been working with them and this year it required 3 transfers to fill out the starting lineup. Thankfully the two best came ready to play from previous schools. MSU replaced 4 starters from last year with zero seniors and kicked our ass.... so apparently it doesn't take 8 years. People making excuses for Germer and Bobby can't see the past their man crush for them and face facts......it isn't working . DOLA and RTD are a joke.
 
Griz Addict said:
mthoopsfan said:
There are lots of young o-linemen in the mix. O-line was improved last year in season 3 and better this year in season 4. Still recovering from Stitt.

Germer was the o Line coach with Stitt as the hc. Germer has been with the program since 2015, and we have had an injured starting qb every year since.

Stitt recruited receivers not o-lineman. Harder to develop a strong o-line without enough recruiting slots. Stitt did good job recruiting receivers.
 
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