2019 Griz RB's

[AllWeatherFan]

Did we recruit any “downhill rushers” this year? Anybody know? Seems like they’re more effective than those uphill rushers. Thanks in advance for any info you can share.

 

[Spanky2]

The uphill rushers tripped over the OL as they lay on the ground

 

[AZGrizFan]

The uphill rushers tripped over the OL as they lay on the ground

The O-line WAS the hill...

 

[mtgrizfankb]

I believe it actually does. Bell preserved his red-shirt by only playing in four games. He never actually made it to San Diego State because he didn't qualify academically. He signed, but never ended up enrolling. He was at a JUCO for two years, then went to Nebraska and played in four games. I actually do believe he is free to go to another FBS school, unless I'm missing something.

Also, I don't know if I would consider his Twitter as an insight into what he's doing either. Yes, these days, MOST of these kids you can get a good sense, but, he literally never posts anything about himself, and if you're just going by followers and following to say there's a "buzz" with the Griz. Well, he follows two Griz coaches and Akem, but he also follows Choate and Orphey too, so I guess there's a buzz with him possibly going to MSU too.

He played in games at Nebraska this year. Yes only four so this became his redshirt year, but just by red shirting doesn't fulfill the academic year at your new institution requirement for a same level transfer without a waiver. Think of Robby Hauck, all he did was redshirt at NAU and he still had to get waiver approval to be eligible this year from both the Big Sky and the NCAA.

If Bell wanted to transfer to any FBS school he would need a waiver approval to play right away. If it didn't get approved he would lose his junior year sitting out. Unless you can find something in the NCAA transfer manual I am missing.

You are mixing up all sorts of rules. The big sky conference does not allow inner conference transfers. That’s why Robby needed a waiver. The big sky was blocking the transfer not the ncaa. Nebraska already did block Oregon state and all other inner conference members from Bell. So bell at this point after redshirting means he can go anywhere outside of his conference and that was not written into his release (al la Oregon state) many upper fbs schools won’t take him because he’s a 1-1 year player without a huge track record of success. Many other FBS programs will welcome him however, as will fcs programs

No. The way I understand it is if he wants to make a lateral move he has to sit out a year unless he petitions the NCAA the way Robbie did in making a lateral move from Northern Arizona to Montana. It had nothing to do with the conference. If you wants to move down to FCS, he can play right away provided that he has two years of eligibility remaining. Otherwise, he would need to be a graduate transfer weather moving laterally or down to FCS with only one year of eligibility left.

I emailed the ncaa to get clarification. A player does not need to sit. If they play only 4 games at the fbs level and have a redshirt available. The 4 game year will become a redshirt year if the player seems himself a redshirt and can transfer to any other fbs or lower tier school without having to sit out a year of play.

There is actually articles about it too. They are worried P5 teams will watch for freshman standouts that played in 4 at the G5 or lower level. Then contact them in pursuit of a transfer.

 

[HookedonGriz]

He played in games at Nebraska this year. Yes only four so this became his redshirt year, but just by red shirting doesn't fulfill the academic year at your new institution requirement for a same level transfer without a waiver. Think of Robby Hauck, all he did was redshirt at NAU and he still had to get waiver approval to be eligible this year from both the Big Sky and the NCAA.

If Bell wanted to transfer to any FBS school he would need a waiver approval to play right away. If it didn't get approved he would lose his junior year sitting out. Unless you can find something in the NCAA transfer manual I am missing.

You are mixing up all sorts of rules. The big sky conference does not allow inner conference transfers. That’s why Robby needed a waiver. The big sky was blocking the transfer not the ncaa. Nebraska already did block Oregon state and all other inner conference members from Bell. So bell at this point after redshirting means he can go anywhere outside of his conference and that was not written into his release (al la Oregon state) many upper fbs schools won’t take him because he’s a 1-1 year player without a huge track record of success. Many other FBS programs will welcome him however, as will fcs programs

No. The way I understand it is if he wants to make a lateral move he has to sit out a year unless he petitions the NCAA the way Robbie did in making a lateral move from Northern Arizona to Montana. It had nothing to do with the conference. If you wants to move down to FCS, he can play right away provided that he has two years of eligibility remaining. Otherwise, he would need to be a graduate transfer weather moving laterally or down to FCS with only one year of eligibility left.

I emailed the ncaa to get clarification. A player does not need to sit. If they play only 4 games at the fbs level and have a redshirt available. The 4 game year will become a redshirt year if the player seems himself a redshirt and can transfer to any other fbs or lower tier school without having to sit out a year of play.

There is actually articles about it too. They are worried P5 teams will watch for freshman standouts that played in 4 at the G5 or lower level. Then contact them in pursuit of a transfer.

This is not correct, sorry. The 4 games and redshirt saves the player’s “year of eligibility” (every player has 5 years to play 4 seasons....clock starts as soon as you enroll as a full time student at any college).

It does not, however, give an FBS player the ability to redshirt and simply transfer to another FBS.

FBS to FBS - sits a year
FCS to FCS - sits a year
FCS to FBS - sits a year
FBS to FCS - can play immediately

Here’s an article explaining it from 2018 (current)

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/5/9/17311748/ncaa-transfer-rules-change-guide-list-sit-out

 

[grizindabox]

He played in games at Nebraska this year. Yes only four so this became his redshirt year, but just by red shirting doesn't fulfill the academic year at your new institution requirement for a same level transfer without a waiver. Think of Robby Hauck, all he did was redshirt at NAU and he still had to get waiver approval to be eligible this year from both the Big Sky and the NCAA.

If Bell wanted to transfer to any FBS school he would need a waiver approval to play right away. If it didn't get approved he would lose his junior year sitting out. Unless you can find something in the NCAA transfer manual I am missing.

You are mixing up all sorts of rules. The big sky conference does not allow inner conference transfers. That’s why Robby needed a waiver. The big sky was blocking the transfer not the ncaa. Nebraska already did block Oregon state and all other inner conference members from Bell. So bell at this point after redshirting means he can go anywhere outside of his conference and that was not written into his release (al la Oregon state) many upper fbs schools won’t take him because he’s a 1-1 year player without a huge track record of success. Many other FBS programs will welcome him however, as will fcs programs

No. The way I understand it is if he wants to make a lateral move he has to sit out a year unless he petitions the NCAA the way Robbie did in making a lateral move from Northern Arizona to Montana. It had nothing to do with the conference. If you wants to move down to FCS, he can play right away provided that he has two years of eligibility remaining. Otherwise, he would need to be a graduate transfer weather moving laterally or down to FCS with only one year of eligibility left.

I emailed the ncaa to get clarification. A player does not need to sit. If they play only 4 games at the fbs level and have a redshirt available. The 4 game year will become a redshirt year if the player seems himself a redshirt and can transfer to any other fbs or lower tier school without having to sit out a year of play.

There is actually articles about it too. They are worried P5 teams will watch for freshman standouts that played in 4 at the G5 or lower level. Then contact them in pursuit of a transfer.

I still don't see how a scholarship player, without being a graduate transfer, can make this happen within the rules. A FBS player still must sit for a year if he redshirts without playing and then transfers to another FBS school which in reality is no different.

 

[HookedonGriz]

You are mixing up all sorts of rules. The big sky conference does not allow inner conference transfers. That’s why Robby needed a waiver. The big sky was blocking the transfer not the ncaa. Nebraska already did block Oregon state and all other inner conference members from Bell. So bell at this point after redshirting means he can go anywhere outside of his conference and that was not written into his release (al la Oregon state) many upper fbs schools won’t take him because he’s a 1-1 year player without a huge track record of success. Many other FBS programs will welcome him however, as will fcs programs

No. The way I understand it is if he wants to make a lateral move he has to sit out a year unless he petitions the NCAA the way Robbie did in making a lateral move from Northern Arizona to Montana. It had nothing to do with the conference. If you wants to move down to FCS, he can play right away provided that he has two years of eligibility remaining. Otherwise, he would need to be a graduate transfer weather moving laterally or down to FCS with only one year of eligibility left.

I emailed the ncaa to get clarification. A player does not need to sit. If they play only 4 games at the fbs level and have a redshirt available. The 4 game year will become a redshirt year if the player seems himself a redshirt and can transfer to any other fbs or lower tier school without having to sit out a year of play.

There is actually articles about it too. They are worried P5 teams will watch for freshman standouts that played in 4 at the G5 or lower level. Then contact them in pursuit of a transfer.

I still don't see how a scholarship player, without being a graduate transfer, can make this happen within the rules. A FBS player still must sit for a year if he redshirts without playing and then transfers to another FBS school which in reality is no different.

He is wrong....still. FBS to FBS sits, regardless of new redshirt rule. This poster is very, very confused. Here is the most up to date and sufficient article I’ve found on this EXACT subject:

https://www.neviuslegal.com/insights/footballredshirts

 

[HookedonGriz]

This is by far the best article that directly explains the situation. Sorry mtgrizfankb, you are either getting wrong info or are just very confused on the situation. You cannot transfer FBS to FBS and play right away (unless you’re a grad transfer) regardless of new redshirt rule. I have a very hard time believing the NCAA emailed you and told you otherwise. Feel free to copy and post that:

https://www.neviuslegal.com/insights/footballredshirts

 

[mtgrizfankb]

This is by far the best article that directly explains the situation. Sorry mtgrizfankb, you are either getting wrong info or are just very confused on the situation. You cannot transfer FBS to FBS and play right away (unless you’re a grad transfer) regardless of new redshirt rule. I have a very hard time believing the NCAA emailed you and told you otherwise. Feel free to copy and post that:

https://www.neviuslegal.com/insights/footballredshirts

I just followed what the ncaa responded with my email question. If that’s wrong that wouldn’t surprise me as the ncaa is a joke and doesn’t understand half of its own rules. I for one think the player shouldn’t be able to transfer inter fbs unless they sit a full year...I think the ncaajuat made things very sticky with making this 4 game rule situation.

Also my apologies, as from the articles you posted I would be incorrect. I guess the ncaa ain’t reliable.

 

[HookedonGriz]

This is by far the best article that directly explains the situation. Sorry mtgrizfankb, you are either getting wrong info or are just very confused on the situation. You cannot transfer FBS to FBS and play right away (unless you’re a grad transfer) regardless of new redshirt rule. I have a very hard time believing the NCAA emailed you and told you otherwise. Feel free to copy and post that:

https://www.neviuslegal.com/insights/footballredshirts

I just followed what the ncaa responded with my email question. If that’s wrong that wouldn’t surprise me as the ncaa is a joke and doesn’t understand half of its own rules. I for one think the player shouldn’t be able to transfer inter fbs unless they sit a full year...I think the ncaajuat made things very sticky with making this 4 game rule situation.

Also my apologies, as from the articles you posted I would be incorrect. I guess the ncaa ain’t reliable.

No need to apologize. Just wanted to get the proper info out there as it can be confusing and many seem to have questions around it each year. The new redshirt rule and transfer rules have added to that confusion

 

[406]

My two cents! Might be worth a penny.

Janacaro will be legit running back. Tough, workhorse type, fast enough, but not the break away guy.
Eastwood will do as an option if line gets better. I feel terrible for the kid after the fumble. probably always be remembered for that.

Graves is a QB. I bet he rises to the number two spot on roster by fall. He can always play some running back or receiver while Sneed is the guy. He may be one of the most versatile players on team. Considering he was OSTPOY, perhaps reps at running back were either a hard work reward or a way to get him on the field to see how he handles the pressure.

If Turner gets going, he could be a legit option. I hope he does. It would be nice to have some Montana boys doing GRIZ stuff!

 

[garizzalies]

This place is hilarious. Somehow an opinion will get started, usually from someone with a weird agenda, 1000s of miles away from Mecca (WaGriz), and/or by someone who’s never played the game or doesn’t actually attend any games. Then that opinion bounces around this echo chamber long enough until it basically gets adopted as a fact.

This thread is a perfect example. Eastwood is an awesome back. He could be a 4year starter and break all kinds of records. Sure the fumble sucked, but he was great under the circumstances this year (young, new team, shitty OL). He’s got good size; good vision; good speed; great hands. What’s not to like? Seriously, someone please point out a legit defect. Pass pro? Please.....he’s young!!

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

 

[kemajic]

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Lex Hilliard. May have had a better OL, but he was a true freshman, not a RS freshman like Eastwood. We need a RB capable of outgaining our QB; maybe it's Eastwood, but he's going to have to grow his capabilities as he matures.

 

[HookedonGriz]

This place is hilarious. Somehow an opinion will get started, usually from someone with a weird agenda, 1000s of miles away from Mecca (WaGriz), and/or by someone who’s never played the game or doesn’t actually attend any games. Then that opinion bounces around this echo chamber long enough until it basically gets adopted as a fact.

This thread is a perfect example. Eastwood is an awesome back. He could be a 4year starter and break all kinds of records. Sure the fumble sucked, but he was great under the circumstances this year (young, new team, shitty OL). He’s got good size; good vision; good speed; great hands. What’s not to like? Seriously, someone please point out a legit defect. Pass pro? Please.....he’s young!!

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Good post. I’ve been very impressed with Eastwood, especially his pass catching abilities, yards after catch, and willingness to truck a defender. Kid will only get better too.

He had 514 yards, averaged 4.1 ypc and scored 9 TDs. Tack on 30 receptions for 183 as well. That’s pretty damn good for a freshman with a struggling O Line

 

[bgbigdog]

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Lex Hilliard. May have had a better OL, but he was a true freshman, not a RS freshman like Eastwood. We need a RB capable of outgaining our QB; maybe it's Eastwood, but he's going to have to grow his capabilities as he matures.

May have had a better OL?

Hummmmm?

 

[garizzalies]

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Lex Hilliard. May have had a better OL, but he was a true freshman, not a RS freshman like Eastwood. We need a RB capable of outgaining our QB; maybe it's Eastwood, but he's going to have to grow his capabilities as he matures.

Good catch. Looks like you have hands as good as Eastwood.
Can’t really argue with that but I would point out that they both had almost identical total yardage in their first year (707 v 697) but Eastwood had more TDs (5 v 9). [Tho if I recall correctly, Eastwood may have played in one more game.]

 

[kemajic]

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Lex Hilliard. May have had a better OL, but he was a true freshman, not a RS freshman like Eastwood. We need a RB capable of outgaining our QB; maybe it's Eastwood, but he's going to have to grow his capabilities as he matures.

Good catch. Looks like you have hands as good as Eastwood.
Can’t really argue with that but I would point out that they both had almost identical total yardage in their first year (707 v 697) but Eastwood had more TDs (5 v 9). [Tho if I recall correctly, Eastwood may have played in one more game.]

Lex was not the feature back; playing behind a fellow named Justin Green. Our biggest problem was that Eastwood was probably not ready to be our feature back; Justin was unable to get onto the field. Sneed had to step in.

 

[SoldierGriz]

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Lex Hilliard. May have had a better OL, but he was a true freshman, not a RS freshman like Eastwood. We need a RB capable of outgaining our QB; maybe it's Eastwood, but he's going to have to grow his capabilities as he matures.

Good catch. Looks like you have hands as good as Eastwood.
Can’t really argue with that but I would point out that they both had almost identical total yardage in their first year (707 v 697) but Eastwood had more TDs (5 v 9). [Tho if I recall correctly, Eastwood may have played in one more game.]

Lex was not the feature back; playing behind a fellow named Justin Green. Our biggest problem was that Eastwood was probably not ready to be our feature back; Justin was unable to get onto the field. Sneed had to step in.

Not following this one Kem. I don't think Sneed "had to step in." I don't recall that many designed QB runs. Sneed's rushing was based on 0-line breakdowns and not finding his second or third reads IMO.

 

[AZGrizFan]

My two cents! Might be worth a penny.

Janacaro will be legit running back. Tough, workhorse type, fast enough, but not the break away guy.
Eastwood will do as an option if line gets better. I feel terrible for the kid after the fumble. probably always be remembered for that.

Graves is a QB. I bet he rises to the number two spot on roster by fall. He can always play some running back or receiver while Sneed is the guy. He may be one of the most versatile players on team. Considering he was OSTPOY, perhaps reps at running back were either a hard work reward or a way to get him on the field to see how he handles the pressure.

If Turner gets going, he could be a legit option. I hope he does. It would be nice to have some Montana boys doing GRIZ stuff!

I’ll take that bet. I don’t think he passes Humphrey.

 

[AZGrizFan]

This place is hilarious. Somehow an opinion will get started, usually from someone with a weird agenda, 1000s of miles away from Mecca (WaGriz), and/or by someone who’s never played the game or doesn’t actually attend any games. Then that opinion bounces around this echo chamber long enough until it basically gets adopted as a fact.

This thread is a perfect example. Eastwood is an awesome back. He could be a 4year starter and break all kinds of records. Sure the fumble sucked, but he was great under the circumstances this year (young, new team, shitty OL). He’s got good size; good vision; good speed; great hands. What’s not to like? Seriously, someone please point out a legit defect. Pass pro? Please.....he’s young!!

Put it this way: have we ever had a freshman RB look that good (and behind such a porous OL)? The only (modern) UM freshman RB I can think of might be the older Nyguen bro (but he had a much better OL that year). There’s probably only 1-2 freshman RBs in the league where I would trade Eastwood.

Good post. I’ve been very impressed with Eastwood, especially his pass catching abilities, yards after catch, and willingness to truck a defender. Kid will only get better too.

He had 514 yards, averaged 4.1 ypc and scored 9 TDs. Tack on 30 receptions for 183 as well. That’s pretty damn good for a freshman with a struggling O Line

Will he ever live down the fumble?