2016 Griz Defense.... Will It Be As Good?

[CDAGRIZ]

Absolutely not and not only that Defense will be worse in 2017 than 2016

what is you opinion based on.....and if you say loss of TG.....just stop now......clueless.....

I commend you for being able to read that post.

 

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

WWGT

 

[Catsrback76]

I think answering "will it be as good" is a really hard one to assess because of other factors outside of the defensive players themselves.

- A new system, two new coaches, and a new DC. Could be good, could be bad, most certainly changes expectations and results. I lean to the optimistic side and what I'm hearing about the players thoughts of Semore (that they really like his strategic mind, game prep, and defensive design). It suggests it should show improvement over Gregorak's external style of brute force, being tough, being a wild animal, etc...

- The offense. If this offense can score 7 to 10 more points per game or even have 3 to 4 more minutes of TOP per game that will work wonders for the defense. Less time on the field as a whole, hopefully fewer games that are tight and in need of multiple defensive stops, things like that. The offense should be able to improve over last season, if so that'll help take the pressure off the defense as much and keep them a little more fresh in the games.

That said... losing 8 starters is tough... I have a feeling that the first half of the season we'll see some adjustment. For the coaches and the players and it'll probably have people running to the message boards bemoaning the new system, new players, new coaches. But, over time, I think it's going to improve and it may be pretty damn good by the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. The 2016 defense I'd guess will not be "as good" statistically in many categories as the 2015 defense at the end,( stack up PPG, YPG). However I think other factors, such as an improved offense, will probably help and make us think a little less about the defense as a liability. Additionally if the defense keeps getting better and is playing at a top level in Nov/Dec... that's where it'll matter.

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

 

[grizindabox]

I think answering "will it be as good" is a really hard one to assess because of other factors outside of the defensive players themselves.

- A new system, two new coaches, and a new DC. Could be good, could be bad, most certainly changes expectations and results. I lean to the optimistic side and what I'm hearing about the players thoughts of Semore (that they really like his strategic mind, game prep, and defensive design). It suggests it should show improvement over Gregorak's external style of brute force, being tough, being a wild animal, etc...

- The offense. If this offense can score 7 to 10 more points per game or even have 3 to 4 more minutes of TOP per game that will work wonders for the defense. Less time on the field as a whole, hopefully fewer games that are tight and in need of multiple defensive stops, things like that. The offense should be able to improve over last season, if so that'll help take the pressure off the defense as much and keep them a little more fresh in the games.

That said... losing 8 starters is tough... I have a feeling that the first half of the season we'll see some adjustment. For the coaches and the players and it'll probably have people running to the message boards bemoaning the new system, new players, new coaches. But, over time, I think it's going to improve and it may be pretty damn good by the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. The 2016 defense I'd guess will not be "as good" statistically in many categories as the 2015 defense at the end,( stack up PPG, YPG). However I think other factors, such as an improved offense, will probably help and make us think a little less about the defense as a liability. Additionally if the defense keeps getting better and is playing at a top level in Nov/Dec... that's where it'll matter.

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

 

[doc3kgt]

I think answering "will it be as good" is a really hard one to assess because of other factors outside of the defensive players themselves.

- A new system, two new coaches, and a new DC. Could be good, could be bad, most certainly changes expectations and results. I lean to the optimistic side and what I'm hearing about the players thoughts of Semore (that they really like his strategic mind, game prep, and defensive design). It suggests it should show improvement over Gregorak's external style of brute force, being tough, being a wild animal, etc...

- The offense. If this offense can score 7 to 10 more points per game or even have 3 to 4 more minutes of TOP per game that will work wonders for the defense. Less time on the field as a whole, hopefully fewer games that are tight and in need of multiple defensive stops, things like that. The offense should be able to improve over last season, if so that'll help take the pressure off the defense as much and keep them a little more fresh in the games.

That said... losing 8 starters is tough... I have a feeling that the first half of the season we'll see some adjustment. For the coaches and the players and it'll probably have people running to the message boards bemoaning the new system, new players, new coaches. But, over time, I think it's going to improve and it may be pretty damn good by the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. The 2016 defense I'd guess will not be "as good" statistically in many categories as the 2015 defense at the end,( stack up PPG, YPG). However I think other factors, such as an improved offense, will probably help and make us think a little less about the defense as a liability. Additionally if the defense keeps getting better and is playing at a top level in Nov/Dec... that's where it'll matter.

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

He forgot that the grizz D is so loaded on talent that the 2nd stringers are just as good as the first.... #dumbstitt

 

[grizindabox]

I think answering "will it be as good" is a really hard one to assess because of other factors outside of the defensive players themselves.

- A new system, two new coaches, and a new DC. Could be good, could be bad, most certainly changes expectations and results. I lean to the optimistic side and what I'm hearing about the players thoughts of Semore (that they really like his strategic mind, game prep, and defensive design). It suggests it should show improvement over Gregorak's external style of brute force, being tough, being a wild animal, etc...

- The offense. If this offense can score 7 to 10 more points per game or even have 3 to 4 more minutes of TOP per game that will work wonders for the defense. Less time on the field as a whole, hopefully fewer games that are tight and in need of multiple defensive stops, things like that. The offense should be able to improve over last season, if so that'll help take the pressure off the defense as much and keep them a little more fresh in the games.

That said... losing 8 starters is tough... I have a feeling that the first half of the season we'll see some adjustment. For the coaches and the players and it'll probably have people running to the message boards bemoaning the new system, new players, new coaches. But, over time, I think it's going to improve and it may be pretty damn good by the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. The 2016 defense I'd guess will not be "as good" statistically in many categories as the 2015 defense at the end,( stack up PPG, YPG). However I think other factors, such as an improved offense, will probably help and make us think a little less about the defense as a liability. Additionally if the defense keeps getting better and is playing at a top level in Nov/Dec... that's where it'll matter.

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

He forgot that the grizz D is so loaded on talent that the 2nd stringers are just as good as the first.... #dumbstitt

did someone imply that they were.....other than yourself......

 

[signedbewildered]

I think answering "will it be as good" is a really hard one to assess because of other factors outside of the defensive players themselves.

- A new system, two new coaches, and a new DC. Could be good, could be bad, most certainly changes expectations and results. I lean to the optimistic side and what I'm hearing about the players thoughts of Semore (that they really like his strategic mind, game prep, and defensive design). It suggests it should show improvement over Gregorak's external style of brute force, being tough, being a wild animal, etc...

- The offense. If this offense can score 7 to 10 more points per game or even have 3 to 4 more minutes of TOP per game that will work wonders for the defense. Less time on the field as a whole, hopefully fewer games that are tight and in need of multiple defensive stops, things like that. The offense should be able to improve over last season, if so that'll help take the pressure off the defense as much and keep them a little more fresh in the games.

That said... losing 8 starters is tough... I have a feeling that the first half of the season we'll see some adjustment. For the coaches and the players and it'll probably have people running to the message boards bemoaning the new system, new players, new coaches. But, over time, I think it's going to improve and it may be pretty damn good by the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. The 2016 defense I'd guess will not be "as good" statistically in many categories as the 2015 defense at the end,( stack up PPG, YPG). However I think other factors, such as an improved offense, will probably help and make us think a little less about the defense as a liability. Additionally if the defense keeps getting better and is playing at a top level in Nov/Dec... that's where it'll matter.

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

He forgot that the grizz D is so loaded on talent that the 2nd stringers are just as good as the first.... #dumbstitt

Play the seconds and thirds, why not? It's been working so well for you guys....never mind.

 

[doc3kgt]

The only thing you left out is how "tired" the defense will be because the offense is scoring at such a high rate and pace, they can't get a breather... so, you might have to factor in fatigue on the defense being worse this year because the offense is better...

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

He forgot that the grizz D is so loaded on talent that the 2nd stringers are just as good as the first.... #dumbstitt

did someone imply that they were.....other than yourself......

You implied it in your original response to catsrback....maybe you don't understand what you said?

 

[grizindabox]

or you just play more guys on defense.....so tired of Catsrsuk........

He forgot that the grizz D is so loaded on talent that the 2nd stringers are just as good as the first.... #dumbstitt

did someone imply that they were.....other than yourself......

You implied it in your original response to catsrback....maybe you don't understand what you said?

I said you would need to play more people......never said or implied that 2nd or even 3rd stringers were as good as starters.....you assumed.......#dumas