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2015 Griz Football Recruiting- 4 Transfers/ 17 Verbals/ 4 WO's

grizindabox said:
AJ Mazzolini ‏@ajmazzolini 3h3 hours ago
No TEs, but the Griz remain in the hunt for locals Sims & Bingham with hopes of converting them to inside WRs
This makes me wonder even more about the Brandom thing. He looks like he'd be a better WR candidate than Bingham.
 
In my opinion Horner fits the WR role very well. He is similar to Mitch Saylor with better wheels. Not sure about Ralston since he is a prototypical TE.

All existing fullbacks and tight ends are being assigned to another position.
 
Keep in mind we need good D. Ends also. Some of these, we are thinking TEs but they could make top notch DEs. Depends on the kids and coaches mindset. Some young guns want to be on the field any way they can. We will need four (plus) defensive ends and it takes 6 to get four.
 
go96griz said:
In my opinion Horner fits the WR role very well. He is similar to Mitch Saylor with better wheels. Not sure about Ralston since he is a prototypical TE.

All existing fullbacks and tight ends are being assigned to another position.

And people questioned carrying 10 QB's and 20 receivers...fools. I assume we will see up to 3 QB's and 6 receivers on the field at the same time...every play will look like the spread 2 point conversion.
 
go96griz said:
In my opinion Horner fits the WR role very well. He is similar to Mitch Saylor with better wheels. Not sure about Ralston since he is a prototypical TE.

All existing fullbacks and tight ends are being assigned to another position.

What the hell position are they going to assign Wilson? Nose tackle? :lol:
 
Umista said:
Keep in mind we need good D. Ends also. Some of these, we are thinking TEs but they could make top notch DEs. Depends on the kids and coaches mindset. Some young guns want to be on the field any way they can. We will need four (plus) defensive ends and it takes 6 to get four.

Fuck defense, we don't care about that s%#$ anymore. We need 8 largebodys on the line on every play to make sure they don't run, and keep them throwing to either stop the clock with incompletions or score so we can get the ball back. We don't need to be signing any defensive backs either, just let the freshman receivers cover to get some playing time...their time will come on offense. I doubt if I'll even watch when we're on defense, who cares?
 
Good article posted on the Missoulian about transitioning tight ends in this offense:

http://missoulian.com/sports/colleg...cle_4353e089-745a-5885-afc7-9046cc776b13.html

Tight ends evolving under Stitt's watch

Area TEs Sims, Bingham still on Grizzlies' radar

By AJ Mazzolini

Woody Brandom was a 6-foot-4, 220-pound converted offensive lineman when he made his verbal commitment as a tight end to the Montana Grizzly football team last September.

But with the Mick Delaney reign giving way to the Bob Stitt era in Griz coaching, the three-star recruit from Santiago High School in Corona, California, found himself in a whole new position. Stitt's spread offense has no use for tight ends, be they blue chippers or otherwise.

Brandom removed his verbal this month before switching sides to the Montana State Bobcats following an official recruiting visit to the Bozeman campus this past weekend.

Brandom told BobcatNation.com the Grizzly staff informed him there was no place for him as a tight end in Missoula and that the Californian should look elsewhere, which begs the question: If this is true, what do the Grizzlies see in two area TEs that would keep their interest?

Both Jesse Sims of Corvallis and Colin Bingham of Missoula Big Sky have scholarship offers from Montana and are scheduled for official visits this weekend.

***

It is true that Stitt's offense at Colorado School of Mines – the same scheme he is implementing in his first year as UM head coach – never employed tight ends. At least not in the traditional sense.

"We're just not recruiting tight ends anymore," the coach said plainly this week from Portland, Oregon, during the staff's last recruiting push before national signing day Feb. 4. Well, not to play tight end at least.

"It's just a bigger inside receiver," Stitt continued, describing an H-back type position spread out in the slot and back from the line of scrimmage. "We do like to have a guy like that."

Under NCAA rules, Stitt cannot comment on recruits before the young athletes sign their national letters of intent, but the coach did speak broadly about recruiting a Bingham (6-3, 235) or Sims (6-4, 235) type.

"In the past we've had guys that are basketball players, 6-3, 6-4 basketball players that really other coaches look at them and think they're not big enough to play tight end," he said. "And we think they're perfect."

Both Sims and Bingham play basketball. Griz assistant coaches Ty Gregorak (defensive coordinator) and Chad Germer (offensive line) were present at Big Sky's hoops romp over Frenchtown on Tuesday to scout Bingham.

Stitt added that a larger, traditional blocking TE can still find a place on his team, just at a different position.

"Guys can always be an inside receiver. And if that works, awesome; if not they can be a defensive end sometimes," he said. "If they're good enough, fast enough, they can always move some place."

Bingham, though, confirmed Tuesday that Montana and Montana State are recruiting him as a pass-catching threat from the slot. He caught 20 passes for 176 yards and five scores this past season, all while playing with a broken bone in his foot.

Sims -- who is also being recruited by Oregon State, USC, Arizona State and Nebraska -- caught 18 passes for 271 yards and two touchdowns with Corvallis and also carried the ball 32 times for 102 yards and a TD out of the backfield.

As for Brandom's de-committal, Stitt wouldn't comment on the switch or any part his system played in the player's decision.

The Grizzlies had nearly all of their 59 scholarships – Montana is in its second of three seasons down from 63 because of NCAA sanctions – spoken for by the time Delaney retired at the end of last season. This last month of recruiting is crucial for locking down those recruits – and finding contingency plans should changes like Brandom's occur, UM running backs coach Justin Green said.

"The guys that committed we want to honor their scholarships and we need to do our job of keeping them because they're good players and we need to convince them to stay with us," said Green, the staff's recruiting coordinator. "If guys go, and we need to make sure we have somebody to replace that."

Brandom's change of heart marked the second such occurrence between Montana and Montana State in a little over a week. Butte wide receiver Dalton Daum dropped his verbal commitment to the Bobcats for the Griz on Jan. 11.
 
jodcon said:
Umista said:
Keep in mind we need good D. Ends also. Some of these, we are thinking TEs but they could make top notch DEs. Depends on the kids and coaches mindset. Some young guns want to be on the field any way they can. We will need four (plus) defensive ends and it takes 6 to get four.

Fuck defense, we don't care about that s%#$ anymore. We need 8 largebodys on the line on every play to make sure they don't run, and keep them throwing to either stop the clock with incompletions or score so we can get the ball back. We don't need to be signing any defensive backs either, just let the freshman receivers cover to get some playing time...their time will come on offense. I doubt if I'll even watch when we're on defense, who cares?

This is a man who gets it. Dovetailing in, I've always wondered whether we actually needed a kicker. Why set yourself up for failure? Having a placekicker is like telling your offense, "Hey, I think you're really great, but I don't think you'll score TDs every possession." Is that the attitude we want?
 
CDAGRIZ said:
jodcon said:
Umista said:
Keep in mind we need good D. Ends also. Some of these, we are thinking TEs but they could make top notch DEs. Depends on the kids and coaches mindset. Some young guns want to be on the field any way they can. We will need four (plus) defensive ends and it takes 6 to get four.

f*** defense, we don't care about that s%#$ anymore. We need 8 largebodys on the line on every play to make sure they don't run, and keep them throwing to either stop the clock with incompletions or score so we can get the ball back. We don't need to be signing any defensive backs either, just let the freshman receivers cover to get some playing time...their time will come on offense. I doubt if I'll even watch when we're on defense, who cares?

This is a man who gets it. Dovetailing in, I've always wondered whether we actually needed a kicker. Why set yourself up for failure? Having a placekicker is like telling your offense, "Hey, I think you're really great, but I don't think you'll score TDs every possession." Is that the attitude we want?

Exactly. When I hear someone say "we signed one of the best punters in the country", I'm thinking why don't you just say "our offense is going to be horseshit and we have no confidence in them"? Kicking is for losers. Ask Green Bay, they probably get it now.
 
Easy jodcon, These defensive kids will play on special teams both ways.
U may stay in the rest room and smoke while we are on defense but I love a good D.
 
Umista said:
Easy jodcon, These defensive kids will play on special teams both ways.
U may stay in the rest room and smoke while we are on defense but I love a good D.

I love defense as well. As a fan at a game, it is the time to be loud and proud also. I watched a lot of EWU, MSU, and Sac State this season. I absolutely loved their offenses. Unfortunately, the lack of defense really sickened me as a football fan. I am a fan of a balance team with solid play on offense, defense, and special teams. Sorry, but a team should not have to consistently 40 points per game to win every game.
 
Rumor floating around that the Kitties lost or are loosing 2 OL commits??? We're we able to Steal a couple more to replace Chris's leaving ??? Next 10 days should b interesting
 
My god twitter has changed the recruiting process for everyone involved. Players twitter bomb literally every DI school with a video and a link. Fans hang on every mention of a visit, verbal, gerbal, and gurble.
Open twitter accounts allow everyone to see who coaches are following and whether the interest is mutual.

It wasn't that long ago that sporadically updated sites for maxpreps and rivals were the best sources, now they're almost passe.
 
grizfan442 said:
Rumor floating around that the Kitties lost or are loosing 2 OL commits??? We're we able to Steal a couple more to replace Chris's leaving ??? Next 10 days should b interesting

Wouldn't the Griz be better off "stealing" recruits from a program more successful than the Bobcats? There have to be more than a dozen FCS schools with better recruits than MSU.
 
grizfan442 said:
Rumor floating around that the Kitties lost or are loosing 2 OL commits??? We're we able to Steal a couple more to replace Chris's leaving ??? Next 10 days should b interesting
I hadn't heard that, who are the cats losing?
 
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