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2 JC Guards visiting this week end

Mslacat

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I have heard that 6-3 Guard Jordan Wood of Snow College JC and guard 6-3 Art Steward of Casper JC will be visiting the U of Montana this week end.

Woods averaged 15 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 44 % fg, 36% 3fg, 64% ft
Graduated from High school in 2006 signed with Southern Utah, redshirted 1 year, went on a mission I beleive, played then as Snow JC IE an older athlete.

Stewart averaged 14 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals, 46% fg, 37% 3fg, 72% ft
Played high school ball in Wyoming
 
why are we recruiting guards? why are we recruiting jaycee guards? why are we recruiting a guard who shoots 64% from the foul line? what's up with thurman woods? how can we go from getting committments from outstanding high school players early in the recruiting process to tripping seemingly dime-a-dozen jaycee guards with days before the late signing deadline?

there are only two explanations: a guard is leaving the program; it's desperation time.

desperation is not attractive.

not a happy development, from my perspective.
 
citay said:
why are we recruiting guards? why are we recruiting jaycee guards? why are we recruiting a guard who shoots 64% from the foul line? what's up with thurman woods? how can we go from getting committments from outstanding high school players early in the recruiting process to tripping seemingly dime-a-dozen jaycee guards with days before the late signing deadline?

there are only two explanations: a guard is leaving the program; it's desperation time.

desperation is not attractive.

not a happy development, from my perspective.
Thurman Woods is not eligible to play D-1 ball until after he spends 2 years at a JC. You lost 4 shooting guards / small forwards. You signed 2 true freshman guards last fall. Signing a guard with some college experience does not seem to out of the ordinary to me. 4 freshman and 1 JC does not seem that outrageous either.
 
news to me about woods--and yet a mystery too. he was on campus last fall, and told by the coaches to just sit tight, they were sure he would be eligible. at least that's the story i read. now he needs two years of jaycee ball to be eligible? what's up with that?
 
GrizWhiz said:
Steward was a 2 star recruit coming out of high school. :) I could not find much on Wood.
Stewart went to a prep school I beleive out of high school and then to Casper. last year after his freshman year he was eligible to sign with with a D-1 school but went back to Casper for his Junior year. He was getting some recruiting interest from Utah State last year. Montana (and Montana State) has been recruiting him off and on since he was in high school. The coaches know him well.

About Thurman Woods, He did spend most of the summer in Missoula working out with the the Griz, but there always has been some type of academic issue hanging over his head. When he signed with the griz back in the fall 2008 I know at that time he had not received a passing score in the ACT/SAT. This is not uncommon though as a lot of recruits signed in the fall either have not taken or still need to improve their scores. Woods was also ruled ineligible by the California high school Association (what ever it is called) to play last year because they ruled he was a 5th year senior. The NCAA has also adopted in the last few years more restrictive rules concerning 5th year seniors. So there always have been some questions.

Now jump a head to this fall just before classes were to start. Woods still had not been cleared by the NCAA Clearing house. This tells me that it was not a SAT/ACT problem but possibly a transcript problem. It tells me that the NCAA needed to review his credits in core cataroies, or possibly look at 5th year regualtions, something that took interpretations.

This is the problem that was presented to Woods in the day's before classes start. The NCAA clearing house still had not ruled on his eligibility to play D-1 ball. If he were show up for a class at UM he would be locked into UM. If the ruling were to go against him he could lose his athletic scholarship (although this is not 100%) and be forced to sit out of basketball for a year, and still having to transfer to a JC to get his D-1 elligbality. If he transfered to a JC he could play this year if the NCAA ruled eventually in his favor he could bounce back to UM (or any other school) for his sophomore year. If the did not then he could bounce back after his second year, not ideal but doable.

Now I understand that the the coaches thought that the NCAA would rule in his favor and encouraged him to stay put, but there are plenty of examples this year of coaches who were sure their recruits would be cleared that were not (just ask Brad Huse about Frenchman Marco Bougaurt). I am told that for what ever reason Woods was not approved by the NCAA Clearing house in late October. Since then he has been classified as a non-qualifier by the NCAA and as such must complete his JC Associate Degree (2 year) before being eligible to play D-1.

Again, this is all rumor, and i am not 100% about all my info but thsi is how I understand Woods situation. I have also been told that the Griz staff have been in close contact and are still recruiting Woods. They would like to get him back and Woods knows this but they have to wait.

As a little side note, one of the things that made me hold back on this post was to make sure that "Jordan Wood" was really not "Thurman Woods". The person who gave me the names assumed I knew who the players were and the schools they attended. I knew of Stewart, but had never heard of Jordan Woods.
 
thanks, mslacat. very strange, because everything i read indicated woods was a good student. so be it. he's the one i was hoping would come back.
 
citygriz said:
thanks, mslacat. very strange, because everything i read indicated woods was a good student. so be it. he's the one i was hoping would come back.

With the NCAA rules you can be a great student and still get sideways of the NCAA. I can verify Woods is/was a good student. The NCAA threw out a few core credits of Marco Buoguart when it was transfered from France to the United State. MSU (the school not the athletic department) considered him a great academic student, but in the end the NCAA ruled he was 1/4 core credit short of NCAA clearing house requirements. Anything out of the ordinary and it is a crap shoot.
 
Thanks mslacat!

My first hope was an athletic 4 but doesn't look like they're looking that way. The big thing in college though is guards win games and you can never have enough good ones. Just look at butler and duke this year neither had much post play but had excellent perimiter play especialy defensively.

Hopefuly the guard. We get is athletic, tenacious both offensively and defensively and ready to play soon. We could have some growing pains early on in the backcourt so the more guys we have with experience the better.

The other reason I think this could be a good sign is it tells me they are happy with the development of mathias and hutch, think selvig will be healthy and think reader can come in and log some valuable minutes.
I feel hutch might be getting overlooked a bit he was very well thought of in recruiting circles coming out of high school. I personaly feel he will suprise some people and could be our first and most productive big off the bench. I hope anyway.
 
I like Reader and I think he will push Hutchison. I think he may have the typical problem most big man have their first year and that is enough muscle on his frame to hold up to the D-1 banging, but his athleticism is going to surprise
 
GrizWhiz said:
Mslacat-clarification please? :?

I maybe wrong that Woods needs to attend a JC for two year before transferring to a D-1 school. He maybe eligable this year. I am getting conflicting info, enough so that I thought it would be should mention. I am still leaning towards the two years but I am not as dead sure as I was.
 
Found this on wood a few little blurbs about him. Kinda interesting. Sounds like a good kid and not affraid to put it up from deep in big moments also.

http://www.snowbadgers.com/mbb/huddle.shtml

Also found a couple videos on youtube but they dont show much except the other team scoring repeatedly. But it does look like he played point for them dont know if thats his natural position or out of nessecity.
 
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