That’s true. Not every one of those guys was predicted to be an all-conference player. My only point is that as fans we project “our” guys to be much better players than everyone else’s most of the time.hunt-ducks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:17 amNot sure we all thought the transfers you mentioned would be dudes. I know I didn't. None of them had much success at their previous stop. Of course, just like recruiting in general, it is all about recruiting the RIGHT transfers. Most of the guys you mentioned were not from big-time programs like Rorie and Bruenig were. Two other thoughts on this topic....... 1) if the UM roster is filled will underclass high school recruits, it makes it much harder to convince a solid drop-down from a elite conference school like the PAC-10, SEC, Big 10, etc. to sign with us. These kids who drop-down are looking to "be the man" and to get into "the dance". I maintain that having a young roster with lots of returning high school starters will make it more difficult to recruit a key drop-down transfer. 2) I think the smart coaches keep their roster fluid after each season by "encouraging" kids who will never be a factor to transfer, thus opening roster spots for key transfers. I agree that having several 4-year kids on the roster is a plus. But I also believe that we had too many basically similar-talented young players clogging our roster last season.LittleBear wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:08 am
Absolutely. I do think its 100% fan opinion that every Griz recruit is destined to be a star....and every recruit we dont sign is a bum. That being said Eddy was a spring recruit...meaning he probably wasn’t the staff’s first choice and was meant to fill the roster once we missed out on other options. I personally believe building the program with predominantly 4 year guys is the way to go...while sprinkling in transfers to fill the gaps.
We can talk about the recruits PSU is bringing in but when is the last time they’ve even remotely challenged for a Big Sky Title? If you look at our track record of transfers idk if you can necessarily say that’s the correct methodology...Darius, Cam S, Steadman, Naseem, Yagi...all were expected to be dudes. I do think we’ve missed both on 4 year guys and high school guys. But imo recruiting guys who didn’t want to be griz in the first place should only be done so to fill in the gaps from a talent perspective.
To your point about having a roster of high school players making it harder to get transfers, idk. I don’t feel like we’ve had a hard time getting transfers, it’s been an issue of finding the right pieces like you mentioned. I agree that our transfers should be guys dropping down (Ahmad, Breunig, Kendal) rather than guys making lateral moves (Darius, Yagi). With that being said, like you mentioned guys are transferring to “be the man.” Too many of those guys on 1 team can be a problem. That’s why I think building a culture through hs guys while plugging holes with transfers here and there can work.
Our current roster has too many players that lack offensive versatility imo...how often did guys have great games on Thursdays only to be completely handcuffed on Saturday. It seems like we have a lot of players that can be neutralized by taking away a single scoring option. I’m hoping Robby can be a guy that makes a huge leap in his consistency after a full off-season and Bannan and Whitney address their perimeter shooting