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Levi Janacaro sworn in.

alabamagrizzly said:
Thats nice if gemini to say those things, doesn't change the fact all politicians are liars.
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And it shows that one park ranger lied and changed his story. And park rangers did not see the injury or wound.

Do you know or know about “all” politicians?
 
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mthoopsfan said:
And it shows that one park ranger lied and changed his story. And park rangers did not see the injury or wound.

Do you know or know about “all” politicians?
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I believe lying is a job requirement. If you're not a good liar, you'll make an awful politician and probably wont win many elections.
 
mthoopsfan said:
My conclusion is that Volvo and his buddies are the liars. I did my research at the time of the incident. Happy to take all of you on over this.

"The situation surrounding Tim Sheehy's wound in Glacier National Park has been the subject of significant public debate, primarily because of conflicting accounts between Sheehy and the responding Law Enforcement Ranger.

According to National Park Service records and interviews:

The Ranger's Account​

  • Kim Peach, the retired ranger who investigated the 2015 incident, stated he met Sheehy at a hospital in Kalispell rather than at the park itself.

  • Peach reported seeing Sheehy with a bandage on his arm.
  • In his official 2015 report, Peach noted that the weapon discharge resulted in Sheehy sustaining a gunshot wound to his right forearm.

  • Peach recently clarified that he did not physically examine the wound under the bandage (as he is not a medical professional), but he did examine Sheehy's firearm in the hospital parking lot, finding five live rounds and one spent casing.

The Conflict​

The core of the controversy lies in whether the wound was "fresh" that day:
  • 2015 Account: At the time, Sheehy told the ranger and hospital staff that his Colt .45 had fallen and discharged, hitting his arm. He paid a $525 fine for illegally discharging a firearm in a national park.

  • Current Account: Sheehy now claims he lied to the ranger in 2015 to protect his former unit. He asserts that the bullet in his arm was actually a 2012 combat wound from Afghanistan (potentially from friendly fire) that he had never reported. He claims he went to the hospital in 2015 because he fell on a hike and feared the old bullet had been dislodged.

Summary of Witnesses​

While Ranger Peach saw the bandaged arm and the discharged weapon, he did not witness the actual shooting or the bare wound. The medical staff at the Kalispell emergency room would have seen the wound, but those medical records have not been publicly released.

The Park Service's formal position remains based on the 2015 report, which classifies the incident as an accidental discharge resulting in a fresh injury."

Gemini.
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Honest question that has never made sense to me. If it was an old injury and not a new one, why was his arm bandaged at the hospital at all?
 
You raise the quintessential question. Answer: It was a fresh wound resulting from poor weapons handling on Logan Pass while placing the loaded handgun into his vehicle. There is only one answer. Sheehy lied about it being a "service-related" injury.
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
Honest question that has never made sense to me. If it was an old injury and not a new one, why was his arm bandaged at the hospital at all?
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It was a new injury but not a new bullet wound. After telling a lie, he later said he had fallen hiking or walking and that he had not been hit with a bullet that day. I wonder if the old bullet dislodged in the fall or just snowed up on an xray. The hospital saw the bullet and said they had to report it to authorities. Instead of saying it was an old bullet wound, which he had never reported to the army to avoid an inquiry about a friendly fire incident and to protect his buddy or fellow soldier, he lied. That never made sense to me, but he said he sort of panicked in the moment. The gun may have gone off or been fired in the park. There was some noise about one spent cartridge in the gun. To my recollection. I read every article I could find. Various military buddies supported him on taking bullet in the war and said very positive things about him.
By the way, his Purple Heart was from a different injury in the war. One would think that a new bullet wound in an arm would require more than a fairly short trip to the ER and a bandage.
 
66volvo said:
You raise the quintessential question. Answer: It was a fresh wound resulting from poor weapons handling on Logan Pass while placing the loaded handgun into his vehicle. There is only one answer. Sheehy lied about it being a "service-related" injury.
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Nope. You are wrong. You have evide
Dr that it was a fresh wound. Yes, he lied. But it had been known to many of his friends that he had taken a friendly fire bullet in the war. See my above post. The Ranger was caught lying and had to admit he had never see the arm before it was bandaged. He also said he had responded because there had been a report of a gun shot in the park. However, there is apparently no such report in the park records that day. You have zero evidence and zero evidence from any third party that a bullet discharged into his arm that day. Wasn’t he carrying a .45? That would more damage to an arm. Especially if still lodged in his arm.
 
mthoopsfan said:
It was a new injury but not a new bullet wound. After telling a lie, he later said he had fallen hiking or walking and that he had not been hit with a bullet that day. I wonder if the old bullet dislodged in the fall or just snowed up on an xray. The hospital saw the bullet and said they had to report it to authorities. Instead of saying it was an old bullet wound, which he had never reported to the army to avoid an inquiry about a friendly fire incident and to protect his buddy or fellow soldier, he lied. That never made sense to me, but he said he sort of panicked in the moment. The gun may have gone off or been fired in the park. There was some noise about one spent cartridge in the gun. To my recollection. I read every article I could find. Various military buddies supported him on taking bullet in the war and said very positive things about him.
By the way, his Purple Heart was from a different injury in the war. One would think that a new bullet wound in an arm would require more than a fairly short trip to the ER and a bandage.
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For an attorney….You sure seem to believe a bunch of speculation, hear say and blatant bullshit from a known lying politician my friend.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
For an attorney….You sure seem to believe a bunch of speculation, hear say and blatant bullshit from a known lying politician my friend.
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No, what I presented are facts or basically facts. You two are presenting the BS speculation. The only person who knows what happened and is talking is Sheehy.

Give us an actual "fact" that supports your view.

The Park Ranger who came forward right before the Tester/Sheehy election, regarding an incident that had occurred years. In my view, Peach is a liar, in my view.
  • "Party Identification: Peach identifies as a Democrat.

  • Voting Record: In a 2024 interview with NBC Montana, he stated that he had previously voted for Jon Tester and intended to do so again.

  • Response to Partisanship: Peach acknowledged that people would likely view his timing—coming forward just weeks before the 2024 election—as "partisan junk." However, he stated that he chose to be upfront about his politics because he didn't want to lie, adding, "I could have lied... [but] the truth isn't complicated." [No one asked that he lie, so he's lying again, in my view.]

  • Motivation: He maintains that his primary motivation was not political but professional. He stated he has "no personal vendetta" against Sheehy but felt compelled to speak out because he believed Sheehy was being untruthful about an incident Peach personally investigated. As a fellow veteran, Peach specifically expressed that he found it "disgusting" to claim a negligent discharge wound was a combat injury.

The Sheehy Campaign’s Stance​

The Sheehy campaign frequently characterized Peach as a "partisan" operative and a "Democrat activist" being used by the Tester campaign to smear Sheehy's military record. They argued that Peach's account was part of a "last-ditch effort" to sway the election."


  • "Sheehy's Perspective: The fact that the visitor didn't report a wound aligns with Sheehy's current claim that he was never actually shot that day. He maintains he fell on a hike, which caused pain in his arm from an old 2012 injury.He argues that the visitor might have heard a noise or that the report of a "discharge" was a misunderstanding, but since no one saw a shooting or a wound at the park, it supports his "no fresh bullet" defense.

The Timeline of the Report​

  1. Visitor Call: Reports an accidental discharge at Logan Pass (No mention of a wound).

  2. Dispatch to Peach: Peach begins heading to Logan Pass. [Okay, so he hears from the dispatcher about a gun shot report at Logan.]

  3. Hospital Update: Dispatch contacts Peach again, stating a man (Sheehy) is at the Kalispell ER with a gunshot wound.

  4. The Meeting: Peach diverts to the hospital, where he finds Sheehy bandaged."


    All these quotes from Gemini.
 
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Curious why he would change the narrative after paying the fine for unlawfully discharging a firearm in a national park?

“Sheehy was ticketed and paid a $525 fine for illegally discharging a firearm in Glacier, government records show.”

montanafreepress.org

Former Glacier NP ranger goes public with claim that Sheehy lied about bullet wound

Sheehy and allies dismiss claim as a smear campaign engineered by Democrats.
montanafreepress.org montanafreepress.org

And getting back on topic, congrats to Levi.
 
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Wolf777 said:
Curious why he would change the narrative after paying the fine for unlawfully discharging a firearm in a national park?

“Sheehy was ticketed and paid a $525 fine for illegally discharging a firearm in Glacier, government records show.”

montanafreepress.org

Former Glacier NP ranger goes public with claim that Sheehy lied about bullet wound

Sheehy and allies dismiss claim as a smear campaign engineered by Democrats.
montanafreepress.org montanafreepress.org
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Maybe he felt bad that he had fibbed and wanted to tell the truth and set the record straight. I doubt that he cared about the money or the amount of the fine. I assume he figured the incident and fine would never come up. Then, 9 years later, it comes out and the Tester partisan ranger Peach decides speak up, and, in my view, tell some fibs himself. He says he is 100% sure Sheehy had a gunshot wound that day. He bases that on seeing a bandaged arm (and not seeing the wound) and claiming he say a spent cartridge in the Sheehy's gun. A spent cartridge doesn't mean Sheehy sustained a bullet wound that day, nor does it mean the gun was shot that day. As I have said, I think Peach was lying, to help out Tester.
 
If he went to Kalispell ER, there would be a record of the visit, notes by the ER RN and Physician. Assessment would include a physical description of the wound, what was done before arrival at the ER and any treatment at the ER, including sutures, medications given there and any Prescriptions. This would be SOP for any ER, large or small. There IS a medical record. Whether it is released is up to Sheehy.
 
mthoopsfan said:
No, what I presented are facts or basically facts. You two are presenting the BS speculation. The only person who knows what happened and is talking is Sheehy.

Give us an actual "fact" that supports your view.

The Park Ranger who came forward right before the Tester/Sheehy election, regarding an incident that had occurred years. In my view, Peach is a liar, in my view.
  • "Party Identification: Peach identifies as a Democrat.

  • Voting Record: In a 2024 interview with NBC Montana, he stated that he had previously voted for Jon Tester and intended to do so again.

  • Response to Partisanship: Peach acknowledged that people would likely view his timing—coming forward just weeks before the 2024 election—as "partisan junk." However, he stated that he chose to be upfront about his politics because he didn't want to lie, adding, "I could have lied... [but] the truth isn't complicated." [No one asked that he lie, so he's lying again, in my view.]

  • Motivation: He maintains that his primary motivation was not political but professional. He stated he has "no personal vendetta" against Sheehy but felt compelled to speak out because he believed Sheehy was being untruthful about an incident Peach personally investigated. As a fellow veteran, Peach specifically expressed that he found it "disgusting" to claim a negligent discharge wound was a combat injury.

The Sheehy Campaign’s Stance​

The Sheehy campaign frequently characterized Peach as a "partisan" operative and a "Democrat activist" being used by the Tester campaign to smear Sheehy's military record. They argued that Peach's account was part of a "last-ditch effort" to sway the election."


  • "Sheehy's Perspective: The fact that the visitor didn't report a wound aligns with Sheehy's current claim that he was never actually shot that day. He maintains he fell on a hike, which caused pain in his arm from an old 2012 injury.He argues that the visitor might have heard a noise or that the report of a "discharge" was a misunderstanding, but since no one saw a shooting or a wound at the park, it supports his "no fresh bullet" defense.

The Timeline of the Report​

  1. Visitor Call: Reports an accidental discharge at Logan Pass (No mention of a wound).

  2. Dispatch to Peach: Peach begins heading to Logan Pass. [Okay, so he hears from the dispatcher about a gun shot report at Logan.]

  3. Hospital Update: Dispatch contacts Peach again, stating a man (Sheehy) is at the Kalispell ER with a gunshot wound.

  4. The Meeting: Peach diverts to the hospital, where he finds Sheehy bandaged."


    All these quotes from Gemini.
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For an old fart you’re getting good at isn’t AI.
 
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