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A better litmus test would be scheduling comparable FCS schools.
I meant in the context of hearing talk of us “moving up” every year. Let’s see if it’s true. It’s challenging to schedule similar FCS-level opponents because, in reality, there aren’t many that aren’t in our own conference or that we wouldn’t see in the playoffs.
 
I meant in the context of hearing talk of us “moving up” every year. Let’s see if it’s true. It’s challenging to schedule similar FCS-level opponents because, in reality, there aren’t many that aren’t in our own conference or that we wouldn’t see in the playoffs.
Except for the people making the schedule know moving up is no where in our future as long as they're in charge.
 
Comment was solely based on making the playoffs, getting the best seed, and possibly winning the Championship. Zero reason to schedule anything but 12 FCS opponents to achieve the goal.
1.) Making playoffs and maximizing seed are good scheduling objectives, but not the only ones.
2.) FBS games on the schedule very rarely has a diminishing effect on playoff considerations.
 
1.) Making playoffs and maximizing seed are good scheduling objectives, but not the only ones.
2.) FBS games on the schedule very rarely has a diminishing effect on playoff considerations.
I disagree on point one wholeheartedly, and would really be curious what your higher priority objectives would be. On point 2, is rarely really worth it? Plain and simple, people didn't run BH out of town because he won 13 games or has been victorious in FBS games.
 
I didn't say higher priority - your words. Fans and players love the FBS games where the Griz have the opportunity to play up to the competition rather than playing down to the Mercyhursts, Moorhead Sts, and Monmouths. Particularly, at accessible locations such as this year's game at OSU. It is a key area for our recruiting and we have a lot of fans in the area. And this just in, we've beaten OSU the last two times we've played them. You can have your patsies; we have enough of them in the conf games. They do not help our SOS.

Did playing Oregon last year and getting embarrassed hurt MSU when it came to playoff selection? Do you think they view it as a scheduling mistake?
 
I didn't say higher priority - your words. Fans and players love the FBS games where the Griz have the opportunity to play up to the competition rather than playing down to the Mercyhursts, Moorhead Sts, and Monmouths. Particularly, at accessible locations such as this year's game at OSU. It is a key area for our recruiting and we have a lot of fans in the area. And this just in, we've beaten OSU the last two times we've played them. You can have your patsies; we have enough of them in the conf games. They do not help our SOS.

Did playing Oregon last year and getting embarrassed hurt MSU when it came to playoff selection? Do you think they view it as a scheduling mistake?
It has been posted over and over that the highest priority is Championship, so why would you not schedule accordingly based on some other priorities that are secondary? Did scheduling Oregon hurt them, no, but what if the Griz win the Brawl, then yes. Reality, how much does the SOS really hurt a BSC team when it comes to playoffs? Pretty much zero as it boils down to W/L record and a BSC team almost always gets the benefit of the doubt. And sure, they beat UW last time they played, but how did that season play out?
 
With all D1 schedules being more important I won't miss playing D2 schools, I'd rather replace them with a PAC or MWC opponent to potentially boost our resume.
But those games make probably make less money for UM than a home game against a good Div. 2 school (ie, Ferris State, Central , etc).
 
But those games make probably make less money for UM than a home game against a good Div. 2 school (ie, Ferris State, Central , etc).
I'd rather play a game @ San Diego State, Utah, Wyoming etc with the potential upside of an upset, better exposure and a bit of cash. Exposure going forward is going to be very important, arguably just as much as $$ in some cases if we have any aspirations of moving up.

Playing good D2 schools does nothing for us outside of another home game. We win it hurts our Playoff resume/seeding, if we lose it definitely hurts our Playoff resume/Seeding even more.
 
But those games make probably make less money for UM than a home game against a good Div. 2 school (ie, Ferris State, Central , etc).
i honestly think we could reel a mid tier fbs into coming to a missoula away game. Everybody talks about the atmosphere let’s show it to the next level. I’m not sure about the logistics of that but it doesn’t like something that should be way out of the picture.
 
I'd rather play a game @ San Diego State, Utah, Wyoming etc with the potential upside of an upset, better exposure and a bit of cash. Exposure going forward is going to be very important, arguably just as much as $$ in some cases if we have any aspirations of moving up.

Playing good D2 schools does nothing for us outside of another home game. We win it hurts our Playoff resume/seeding, if we lose it definitely hurts our Playoff resume/Seeding even more.
Not "a bit of cash." A bit of loss relative to any hoe game. UM needs a minimum of $650,000 for an FBS game and those mentioned don't pay it.
 
It has been posted over and over that the highest priority is Championship, so why would you not schedule accordingly based on some other priorities that are secondary? Did scheduling Oregon hurt them, no, but what if the Griz win the Brawl, then yes. Reality, how much does the SOS really hurt a BSC team when it comes to playoffs? Pretty much zero as it boils down to W/L record and a BSC team almost always gets the benefit of the doubt. And sure, they beat UW last time they played, but how did that season play out?
You're assuming UM is afraid of being on the playoff bubble when scheduling. Don't think that's the case. They have some margin for other priorities like this year's QSU game.
 
You're assuming UM is afraid of being on the playoff bubble when scheduling. Don't think that's the case. They have some margin for other priorities like this year's QSU game.
Historically, they probably should be afraid of the bubble...unless the goal isn't really championships
 
Not "a bit of cash." A bit of loss relative to any hoe game. UM needs a minimum of $650,000 for an FBS game and those mentioned don't pay it.
I am always confused about the $650k. 2025 my ticket invoice for 2 seats, seats cushions and parking was $845 for 8 games that included UND, Cats, Idaho and EWU. This year same package is $900, and the only marquee game is Idaho. How are prices up and games down if each game is worth $650k? Seems 6,7 or 8 games the season ticket price is the same or more each year and demand is related to the performance of the team and the value of the competition.

If you look at the end of the Stitt era, Griz specifically scheduled crap teams to make best efforts to make the playoffs (and still failed) timer paid attendance was down and scanned tickets was much lower with no games over 21,000 in attendance.
 
I disagree on point one wholeheartedly, and would really be curious what your higher priority objectives would be. On point 2, is rarely really worth it? Plain and simple, people didn't run BH out of town because he won 13 games or has been victorious in FBS games.
A high priority would be making enough money/revenue to continue to fund the program in a high level and help keep it successful. It would also be having many home games to keep local businesses, restaurants and hotels busy and happy.
 
A high priority would be making enough money/revenue to continue to fund the program in a high level and help keep it successful. It would also be having many home games to keep local businesses, restaurants and hotels busy and happy.
But they don't have to schedule D2 schools to accomplish that and FBS road games doesn't. Kind of my point that this can be accomplished while playing an all FCS slate with the priority to work towards putting themselves in the best position for a championship.
 
But they don't have to schedule D2 schools to accomplish that and FBS road games doesn't. Kind of my point that this can be accomplished while playing an all FCS slate with the priority to work towards putting themselves in the best position for a championship.
It is very difficult to play all FCS, because there just aren't enough teams available when UM has open dates. That's one of the reasons UM has to fill in with D2's.

And, FCS schools cost more money than D2 schools. This happens for 2 reasons. FCS schools demand higher game fees than D2's. Or, they demand home and home series. A home and home series reduces the number of games in Missoula, which reduces the revenue from home game tickets sales, etc.

FCS schools are farther away from Missoula and the cost of the charter is expensive. Many D2 schools bus to Missoula.

In some cases, UM may charge more per ticket for an FCS game than for a D2, but I'm not sure that is often the case. I haven't looked at ticket price comparisons in the last decade or so, so I don't know. Maybe someone else knows. I suppose an extra $10 per ticket brings in about 20,000 tickets sold times $10. So that would be about $200,000. I would guess that FCS one-game fees plus the cost of the charter would be more than $200,000 but don't know.

I think you are underestimating how much D2 games, with the teams coming by bus, and have lower game fees, save UM.
 

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