This is why I jumped on the “frustration” excuse. Read it.
My view is that it's not mostly from frustration. Some seem to have been born with expecting things to come to them.
Yep, and I really hope I don't start falling into this mindset as I get older. Because right now if a Zoomer or some teenager told me that my life was easy growing up, I would 110% agree. I didn't have to deal with maintaining a 24/7 social media presence to have a semblance of a social life, education getting upended by COVID, agonizing over picking a career that won't get eaten by AI, the looming dark cloud of school shootings being a weekly occurrence in America. In hindsight I was playing on easy mode compared to what these kids are going through, and I don't feel like that diminishes my own accomplishments at all.
Hard work and persistence have always mattered. Nobody is arguing otherwise. But dismissing the economic conditions people are operating in and reducing everything to attitude or work ethic is a pretty one sided way to look at it.
I think you’re underestimating how common that criticism is across generations. Older people calling the next generation lazy or entitled is a recurring pattern. The Psychology Behind Generational Conflict
Again, I don’t like people who don’t work hard, whether they are frustrated or not, or the environment has changed or not. Why can’t you even acknowledge what I am saying. You are making excuses for lack of motivation. I generally don’t except excuses for that, unless the person isn’t healthy.
You keep acting like acknowledging economic conditions somehow equals defending laziness. That’s a pretty lazy argument in itself. Nobody here said people shouldn’t work hard or compete.
I made no broad claims about any generation. I said some younger people. SOME. Some
All we can do is learn from that and not do it ourselves.
My kids and my younger relatives had no problem getting through what you said in your first paragraph. Same with most of my kids’ friends. They had it easier than I did. They had way more advantages. They didn’t even have to learn to use a slide rule. They are meeting the challenges of the world. They met their spouses the same way I did. In schools and bars. They didn’t need social media to have a social life.
I think this is a good example of how some things have changed. In my industry at least, you will get a raised eyebrow if your resume shows that you've been at the same company 2+ years. It implies that you're too lazy and unmotivated to hustle for better opportunities and just want to slack at the office collecting a paycheck. Company loyalty is no longer a thing, you need to job hop if you want to be seen as a motivated go-getter in the eyes of a hiring manager.
Good for them! Sounds like they're definitely not entitled and lazy.
What’s your industry? Not that way in the professional jobs. If you bounce in tech, you lose your options. I wouldn’t hire a secretary, executive assistant or legal assistance if they looked like bouncers. Not university jobs.
My son is in web design/programming and a majority of people bounce around. In many professions it is the nature of the beast, including tech fields.
It falls under the "tech" umbrella. Average tenure at Google is 1.1 years. It varies, but generally speaking most of your shares will vest in the first 2 years and then it's time to demand more or walk out.
I should have said private tech companies. Options rarely vest in full in 2 years for public companies. Thx.
You're generalizing. Ive met plenty of young people with great work ethics and plenty of lazy old bastards.
Work ethic just looks different today than it did 40 years ago. Younger generations today are generally healthier and more intentional about lifestyle than older generations were at the same age. Millennials and Gen Z drinks less alcohol, smokes far less, exercises more, and tends to pay a lot more attention to things like diet, and overall wellbeing.
Gen Z is the virgin generation and are having less sex than previous generations which goes directly against your statement that they are more concerned about health and overall well being. Older adults currently middle aged (millennials) had a more difficult economic environment with the recession and they are in the middle of their working career and middle age, not retired.
Generalizing yes it doesn’t apply to everyone. There are still lazy millennials and hard working zoomers but overall as a generalization there does seem to be a shift between the younger and older generation of non geriatric adults.
That’s a pretty weak connection you’re trying to make. Having less sex doesn’t mean a generation is less focused on health or wellbeing. If anything, Gen Z also drinks less, smokes less, and exercises more than previous generations at the same age, which are actual health indicators.
