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Sac to the Mac

Apparently, Cameron Skattebo felt differently than Bluth about CA & AZ.

According to the internet, SS out-of-state enrollment is 1.18%, so it appears they have nowhere to go but up. Similar to your unaware roommates, I suspect most of the US population outside of CA are unaware that SS exists.
Yeah, my comment was more just about the general mentality some people have in California. Obviously, Lucille's statement is a joke, but it's honestly not far off from some people I've met. It really is very much like its own country more than any other state. 4th or 5th largest GDP in the world, gave about $275 billion more to the fed in taxes than it received from the fed in aid (2024) as opposed to states that take more federal aid than they contribute in taxes, etc. It's in style to hate on CA, but a lot of states would suffer financially without it.

I know it's kind of the inverse of your point, but the very notion of going out-of-state for college (outside of athletics or Ivies) almost seems like a foreign concept to some people here. It's interesting to say the least.
 
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Yeah, my comment was more just about the general mentality some people have in California. Obviously, Lucille's statement is a joke, but it's honestly not far off from some people I've met. It really is very much like its own country more than any other state. 4th or 5th largest GDP in the world, gave about $275 billion more to the fed in taxes than it received from the fed in aid (2024) as opposed to states that take more federal aid than they contribute in taxes, etc. It's in style to hate on CA, but a lot of states would suffer financially without it.

I know it's kind of the inverse of your point, but the very notion of going out-of-state for college (outside of athletics or Ivies) almost seems like a foreign concept to some people here. It's interesting to say the least.
I know exactly what you mean. I was there for 7 years and the folks around me thought I was crazy to work so hard at getting out.
 
Yeah, my comment was more just about the general mentality some people have in California. Obviously, Lucille's statement is a joke, but it's honestly not far off from some people I've met. It really is very much like its own country more than any other state. 4th or 5th largest GDP in the world, gave about $275 billion more to the fed in taxes than it received from the fed in aid (2024) as opposed to states that take more federal aid than they contribute in taxes, etc. It's in style to hate on CA, but a lot of states would suffer financially without it.

I know it's kind of the inverse of your point, but the very notion of going out-of-state for college (outside of athletics or Ivies) almost seems like a foreign concept to some people here. It's interesting to say the least.
No hate from me. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I've had some great vacations in CA.

This article from 2024 claimed 17% of BSU's student enrollment was from CA.

Anyway, one of the reasons listed for the move up of SS was to increase out-of-state enrollment. I'm doubtful that SS will be able to move the needle much there. It will be interesting how it plays out.
 
I know exactly what you mean. I was there for 7 years and the folks around me thought I was crazy to work so hard at getting out.
Until there's a large enough earthquake and then they are doing everything they can to get out. It does seem like CA is overdue for another big one.
 
gave about $275 billion more to the fed in taxes than it received from the fed in aid (2024) as opposed to states that take more federal aid than they contribute in taxes
Holy shit, if everyone heard that, they definitely should have at least a little less to say about Cali. First, i wanna say thank from all Alabamians. Second, i waanna ask the feds wer da fuq is mine!! I netted a -$6k to the feds last year.

Virginia +$89B
Alabama +$45B
South Carolina +$39B
New Mexico +$33B
Mississippi +$33B
Arizona +$33B
Michigan +$32B
Louisiana +$29B
Kentucky +$28B
Pennsylvania +$25B
Maryland +$25B
West Virginia +$22B
Oregon +$21B
Oklahoma +$20B
North Carolina +$18B
Hawaii +$14B
Maine +$14B
Alaska +$11B
Wisconsin +$10B
Idaho +$8B
Montana +$7B
Iowa +$7B
Indiana +$6B
Kansas +$6B
Vermont +$5B
New Hampshire +$4B
Missouri +$3B
Nevada +$3B
North Dakota +$1B
South Dakota +$986M
Wyoming +$653M

Arkansas −$426M
Rhode Island −$2B
Utah −$2B
Connecticut −$3B
Tennessee −$4B
Delaware −$5B
Colorado −$10B
Florida −$11B
Nebraska −$19B
Georgia −$19B
Massachusetts −$38B
Minnesota −$50B
Ohio −$52B
Washington −$57B
Illinois −$63B
New Jersey −$68B
Texas −$68B
New York −$76B
California −$276B
 
Note that in some states, and bigger states with less population, these figures get skewed. I'm pretty sure that MT, for example, gets alot of money for the federal highway system (look at infrastructure and transportation below, the national parks, the other Interior department-overseen federal lands, the national Bison Range, Indian Reservations, the Canadian border stations etc. Yes, Montanans get benefits from these things, but many others including travelers and truckers get benefit from the highway system. Many out of staters get benefit from national park system and some from federal lands. Native Americans are Montana residents, but reservations were set up and mostly overseen by the federal government and Montana doesn't have much say in that. I supposer MT residents get the benefit of the large ag subsidies.

And when stats are provided for benefits per resident, it looks like MT is getting a ton of net money.

"Montana is heavily reliant on federal funding, which serves as a cornerstone of the state's economy and budget. In fiscal year 2024, the state received over $14.1 billion in obligated federal funds.
For every $1.00 Montana contributes in federal taxes, it receives approximately $1.40 in return.

Key Funding Categories (FY 2024/2025)

Federal grants account for roughly 43% of Montana's total annual state government revenue. The primary areas of support include:
CategoryEstimated AmountKey Details
Social Security~$5.3 billion / yearMonthly benefits to over 156,000 households.
Healthcare (Medicaid)~$2.03 billionCovers ~80% of the program's total cost in Montana.
Infrastructure & Transit~$1.04 billionHighway planning, bridge construction, and grid resilience.
Education~$389 millionIncludes $72M in Title funding for 398 school districts.
Agriculture~$575 millionCommodity programs, crop insurance, and disaster relief.
Public Lands (PILT)~$43.3 millionPayments in Lieu of Taxes for untaxable federal lands.

Distribution of Funds

While the state government manages a large portion, federal money also flows directly to other entities:
  • Local Governments: Receive an average of $361.3 million annually for housing, airports, and roads.
  • Tribal Governments: Receive approximately $553.6 million per year for healthcare and resource management.
  • Nonprofits: Receive an average of $134.4 million annually in contracts and grants."
 
No hate from me. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I've had some great vacations in CA.

This article from 2024 claimed 17% of BSU's student enrollment was from CA.

Anyway, one of the reasons listed for the move up of SS was to increase out-of-state enrollment. I'm doubtful that SS will be able to move the needle much there. It will be interesting how it plays out.

No way, I was referring to the anti-California sentiment many people seem to have nationwide. It’s pretty prevalent. Not directed at you.

Yeah, I’m not sure how many people from out of state will ever be jumping at the chance to attend a commuter school in Sacramende. 😂
 
Holy shit, if everyone heard that, they definitely should have at least a little less to say about Cali. First, i wanna say thank from all Alabamians. Second, i waanna ask the feds wer da fuq is mine!! I netted a -$6k to the feds last year.

Virginia +$89B
Alabama +$45B
South Carolina +$39B
New Mexico +$33B
Mississippi +$33B
Arizona +$33B
Michigan +$32B
Louisiana +$29B
Kentucky +$28B
Pennsylvania +$25B
Maryland +$25B
West Virginia +$22B
Oregon +$21B
Oklahoma +$20B
North Carolina +$18B
Hawaii +$14B
Maine +$14B
Alaska +$11B
Wisconsin +$10B
Idaho +$8B
Montana +$7B
Iowa +$7B
Indiana +$6B
Kansas +$6B
Vermont +$5B
New Hampshire +$4B
Missouri +$3B
Nevada +$3B
North Dakota +$1B
South Dakota +$986M
Wyoming +$653M

Arkansas −$426M
Rhode Island −$2B
Utah −$2B
Connecticut −$3B
Tennessee −$4B
Delaware −$5B
Colorado −$10B
Florida −$11B
Nebraska −$19B
Georgia −$19B
Massachusetts −$38B
Minnesota −$50B
Ohio −$52B
Washington −$57B
Illinois −$63B
New Jersey −$68B
Texas −$68B
New York −$76B
California −$276B

🤷‍♂️A lot of states are on the take. Doesn’t really seem to register to a lot of people, honestly. Doesn’t change the, “We’d be better off if it slid into the ocean” comments drunk relatives love to make. 😂
 
Note that in some states, and bigger states with less population, these figures get skewed. I'm pretty sure that MT, for example, gets alot of money for the federal highway system (look at infrastructure and transportation below, the national parks, the other Interior department-overseen federal lands, the national Bison Range, Indian Reservations, the Canadian border stations etc. Yes, Montanans get benefits from these things, but many others including travelers and truckers get benefit from the highway system. Many out of staters get benefit from national park system and some from federal lands. Native Americans are Montana residents, but reservations were set up and mostly overseen by the federal government and Montana doesn't have much say in that. I supposer MT residents get the benefit of the large ag subsidies.

And when stats are provided for benefits per resident, it looks like MT is getting a ton of net money.

"Montana is heavily reliant on federal funding, which serves as a cornerstone of the state's economy and budget. In fiscal year 2024, the state received over $14.1 billion in obligated federal funds.
For every $1.00 Montana contributes in federal taxes, it receives approximately $1.40 in return.

Key Funding Categories (FY 2024/2025)

Federal grants account for roughly 43% of Montana's total annual state government revenue. The primary areas of support include:

CategoryEstimated AmountKey Details
Social Security~$5.3 billion / yearMonthly benefits to over 156,000 households.
Healthcare (Medicaid)~$2.03 billionCovers ~80% of the program's total cost in Montana.
Infrastructure & Transit~$1.04 billionHighway planning, bridge construction, and grid resilience.
Education~$389 millionIncludes $72M in Title funding for 398 school districts.
Agriculture~$575 millionCommodity programs, crop insurance, and disaster relief.
Public Lands (PILT)~$43.3 millionPayments in Lieu of Taxes for untaxable federal lands.


Distribution of Funds

While the state government manages a large portion, federal money also flows directly to other entities:
  • Local Governments: Receive an average of $361.3 million annually for housing, airports, and roads.
  • Tribal Governments: Receive approximately $553.6 million per year for healthcare and resource management.
  • Nonprofits: Receive an average of $134.4 million annually in contracts and grants."
Not sure how many households in montana, but at a modest 2 people per household.... 325000 people on SSA or SSDI.....
 
Such a flawed philosophy, let's wait another 4-5 years and hope for the P4 to split. What if the don't split, than what. If they do split, what is UM master's plan to upgrade facilities to be invited. Look around at what NDSU did, what North Dakota just did with their new facilities or Tarleton State just updated.
new NDSU facilities?
 

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