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Enrollment Up Again

Can’t be true! Over on the litter box they’re claiming our enrollment numbers are bad (complaining about counting the Missoula College, dual enrollment, blah blah blah). Bless their hearts for caring so much, but even mighty Msucks counts the Gallatin College and dual enrollment in their numbers (both of which were their highest spring numbers ever).
Cat logic: If you don’t count the students who attend, enrollment numbers decline👍🏼
 
MSU’s spring enrollment by the numbers:

• Headcount: 16,373 (spring record)
• Undergraduate headcount: 14,414 (spring record)
• Graduate headcount: 1,959

(14,414 + 1,959 = 16,373)

You will notice that contrary to your assertion, MSU does not count Gallatin College and Dual enrollment in its Spring Enrollment.

• Gallatin College MSU headcount: 1,493 (spring record)

• Dual enrollment headcount: 865 (spring record)
 
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We have a total of 5 more undergrad students this spring compared to last spring (5,771 now vs. 5,766 last year).

I'm sorry, but that is fucking awful.

Graduate and Missoula College gains are great, but undergrad enrollment is the lifeblood of this school, and they have to figure that out.
 
I don’t really pay attention to Spring enrollment numbers cause it usually is almost always down from what the Fall number is due to mid year graduations, but that’s interesting that our enrollment grew. You almost never see that. Could it be a sign of things to come? I sure hope so. That’s why we gotta get an energetic new president in place soon!

I’ll be interested to see the numbers next fall. Mike on the GFP said he met with the UM Enrollment Director around the start of the year and said he walked away encouraged by what he heard. I’ve heard that from a couple other people as well. Hopefully they’ve finally figured it out and can start really growing the undergrad enrollment.
 
We have a total of 5 more undergrad students this spring compared to last spring (5,771 now vs. 5,766 last year).

I'm sorry, but that is fucking awful.

Graduate and Missoula College gains are great, but undergrad enrollment is the lifeblood of this school, and they have to figure that out.
Spring enrollment data is almost worthless. Now if we see a number like that in the Fall, then ya I will agree that’s fucking awful. I almost hate that we even started a thread like this.
 
Spring enrollment data is almost worthless. Now if we see a number like that in the Fall, then ya I will agree that’s fucking awful. I almost hate that we even started a thread like this.
Why is it worthless? It's not comparing fall to spring, it's comparing spring to spring.

MSU had an increase of 166 undergrads YoY while we had 5. They're certainly finding ways to make the needle move even in spring.
 
MSU’s spring enrollment by the numbers:

• Headcount: 16,373 (spring record)
• Undergraduate headcount: 14,414 (spring record)
• Graduate headcount: 1,959

(14,414 + 1.959 = 16,373)

You will notice that contrary to your assertion, MSU does not count Gallatin College and Dual enrollment in its Spring Enrollment.

• Gallatin College MSU headcount: 1,493 (spring record)

• Dual enrollment headcount: 865 (spring record)
By your count, the msu enrollment is 14,415.959.
 
5 straight years now….


Guys. We have to quit lying to ourselves. Our enrollment numbers are absolutely red alert awful currently. For the sake of the future of our UM, we absolutely need our new president to understand how poorly these numbers actually are.
 
Guys. We have to quit lying to ourselves. Our enrollment numbers are absolutely red alert awful currently. For the sake of the future of our UM, we absolutely need our new president to understand how poorly these numbers actually are.
This is why you need to actually care about the university as a whole and not just the objectives that drive funding from the state. Anyone who cares about the university knows that we are way down from the peaks of the early 2000’s. But they keep throwing out these reports like we are excelling, but anctuall we are just highlighting metrics based figures that make it appear better than it is. I really hope we get someone in who wants to highlight the positives on this campus to move ahead and not just coast by. A new dorm will help, but campus and Missoula life need to become vibrant again.
 
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Montana State announces record spring enrollment of 16,373 students​

By Anne Cantrell, MSU News Service
 
This is why you need to actually care about the university as a whole and not just the objectives that drive funding from the state. Anyone who cares about the university knows that we are way down from the peaks of the early 2000’s. But they keep throwing out these reports like we are excelling, but they are just passing the stage sheet. I really hope we get someone in who wants to highlight the positives on this campus to move ahead and not just coast by.
💯 agree.
 
Spring enrollment data is almost worthless. Now if we see a number like that in the Fall, then ya I will agree that’s fucking awful. I almost hate that we even started a thread like this.
spring enrollment goes up and down with student retention at least as much as graduation. and student retention is one of the golden keys to university success... but that said, the numbers are nothing to celebrate.
 
spring enrollment goes up and down with student retention at least as much as graduation. and student retention is one of the golden keys to university success... but that said, the numbers are nothing to celebrate.
Nothing to celebrate at all. Our grad school numbers are solid. However, the 4 year undergrad, and new freshman enrollment numbers, are truly abysmal and bodnar, before he slid out the door for politics, should not have been retained. For 15 years, montana families, many of whom I know well, continue to lament the lack of effort UM has shown towards recruiting prospective students is inexcusable. The BOR desperately needs to understand this in the hiring of our new president.
 
Nothing to celebrate at all. Our grad school numbers are solid. However, the 4 year undergrad, and new freshman enrollment numbers, are truly abysmal and bodnar, before he slid out the door for politics, should not have been retained. For 15 years, montana families, many of whom I know well, continue to lament the lack of effort UM has shown towards recruiting prospective students is inexcusable. The BOR desperately needs to understand this in the hiring of our new president.
I don’t blame this just on the school. Missoula as a city isn’t viewed as the great place it was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Crime, open drug use, and homelessness is a big turn off. We need to look from the outside in.
 
I don’t blame this just on the school. Missoula as a city isn’t viewed as the great place it was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Crime, open drug use, and homelessness is a big turn off. We need to look from the outside in.
I don’t think that’s a big issue. Kids I’ve spoken too, some of which have said they don’t like Bozeman cause it’s crazy expensive and full of snobs, but that they like msu as a school. I don’t hear a lot of people complain about Missoula, but even if they do there’s still ways UM can make themselves attractive.
 
I don’t think that’s a big issue. Kids I’ve spoken too, some of which have said they don’t like Bozeman cause it’s crazy expensive and full of snobs, but that they like msu as a school. I don’t hear a lot of people complain about Missoula, but even if they do there’s still ways UM can make themselves attractive.
Missoula has a reputation of being the furthest you can go to the left in Montana and Zoomers are generally more conservative than Millennials. Gen Alpha is likely going to be more progressive like millennials and reverse this trend atleast based on politics back to when millennials were in college from the early aughts to the mid 2010s which was when UM and Missoula was thriving in comparison to Bozeman.
 
I find it odd that enrollment numbers become another competition of the Brawl of the Wild series.

Don't most tax paying MONTANANS want to see healthy enrollments and vibrant campuses at both schools?
No, less enrollment at UM means more money allocated to MSU and the same will be true when the trend reverses.
 

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