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Future Scheduling

mthoopsfan said:
Not true. No one has to go to a game. The AD tries to balance and maximize revenue and profit with good competition. Early season games and D2 games are well-attended.
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Attendance is reported as tickets sold. In UM's case 80% of tickets sold are via season tickets. Against poor opponents a lot of empty seats can be seen scattered, indicating no-shows.
 
kemajic said:
Attendance is reported as tickets sold. In UM's case 80% of tickets sold are via season tickets. Against poor opponents a lot of empty seats can be seen scattered, indicating no-shows.
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I don't notice alot of empty seats early in the season including against D2's. In fact, some of the top attendances have been early in the season, and that can only happen with people buying additional seats, somewhere somehow
 
brewskis said:
We need to get away from scheduling pioneer league and D2 schools, I don’t know what league sacred heart is in but we can leave that out as well. Throw in Dixie state/Utah tech/SUU, whatever those schools call themselves while we are at it. I cant watch those games, it’s boring and uninspiring.

If we could leave behind Portland state and Northern Colorado that would be outstanding, imagine playing a couple of competitive schools that actually give a s*** instead.
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Who?????
 
mthoopsfan said:
I don't notice alot of empty seats early in the season including against D2's. In fact, some of the top attendances have been early in the season, and that can only happen with people buying additional seats, somewhere somehow
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The season ticket holder no-shows are counted in "attendance." 19,000 tickets are sold irrespective of the opponents, weather, etc. From our vantage point on the east side, the empty seats scattered within the west side are very visible and vary depending on the quality of the game / opponent. This variance doesn't show up in the reported "attendance." The energy of the crowd certainly varies depending on the quality of the game / opponent.
 
I won’t go to a D2 game. Too much travel time and an expense, to make it worthwhile. I would rather sit in front of the TV with a beer and if it gets boring, I’ll just have another beer.
There are plenty of FCS patsy teams that have dreams of making the top 25, in the poll.
I’m sure those players visiting would enjoy playing in the number one FCS stadium, in the country.
 
So a school (Griz) that sells 19000 season tickets to a 26000 stadium isn't any good so we have to move up and spend $10,000,000 more we don't have to be a good team. OK got it
 
kemajic said:
The season ticket holder no-shows are counted in "attendance." 19,000 tickets are sold irrespective of the opponents, weather, etc. From our vantage point on the east side, the empty seats scattered within the west side are very visible and vary depending on the quality of the game / opponent. This variance doesn't show up in the reported "attendance." The energy of the crowd certainly varies depending on the quality of the game / opponent.
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Kem, I know that and have known that forever. I am saying that I go to all the early games and I don't notice many empty seats.

Both CW and Sacred Heart were over 26,000. 19,000 of 26,300 for CW is 72%, not 80%.
 
LivingstonNative said:
I won’t go to a D2 game. Too much travel time and an expense, to make it worthwhile. I would rather sit in front of the TV with a beer and if it gets boring, I’ll just have another beer.
There are plenty of FCS patsy teams that have dreams of making the top 25, in the poll.
I’m sure those players visiting would enjoy playing in the number one FCS stadium, in the country.
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I guess you don't understand that some of the better teams demand home-and-home, so UM would have fewer homes games and much less revenue/profit from the loss of home games. UM nets a ton of money from home games, and the downtown businesses, some of which are Griz contributors, lose the benefits of the home games. And, as others have stated, UM's paying for a bus ride of a closer opponent saves the cost of more expensive travel. It's a mix and a balance. But I don't know where you think the loss of whatever UM nets from the sale of says 21,000 tickets is coming to come from.

I'm fine with you staying home. I understand the travel. But when I lived in GF, I never avoided going to a D2 or lessor game. I loved watching the team in person, in the great stadium and atmosphere, and going downtown on Friday and Saturday nights.

Teams schedule up in advance. They have conferences and local traditional games. They don't just wait for the Griz to call.
 
Hoops,
I get the Home and Home thing. I’m sure there are FCS schools that will not demand a home and home. And, those are the schools I’m referring to.
The weekend thing you’re referring to, the best. I guess if we can’t get an FCS school, we are stuck with a D2.
 
LivingstonNative said:
Hoops,
I get the Home and Home thing. I’m sure there are FCS schools that will not demand a home and home. And, those are the schools I’m referring to.
The weekend thing you’re referring to, the best. I guess if we can’t get an FCS school, we are stuck with a D2.
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Those FCS schools are Pioneer League or a similar tier like Sacred Heart which someone mentioned not wanting to see earlier in the thread. We have to do home and home to get higher level MVFC like the remaining Dakota 3 to come to Missoula.
 
At least in the past, some Ivies were willing to come for a single game. It's hard to schedule Ivies because they set most of their OOC games years in advance, and their 10 game season starts about Sept 20.
 
oldngrizzly said:
There would not be any empty stands because they will presell all the tickets for every game and you will need to pay extra to even get a ticket. Do you really think people want to watch the shitty teams UM brings in now ?
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I don't know you. I am not on the "bash Oldngrizzly' wagon. You are entitled to your opinion.

If you don't feel the soul of a game played in Wa-Griz vibrating in your chest, then you’re just wasting oxygen in the stands.

Going to and watching Griz games isn't just a hobby for most of us.

For me the ritual starts the night before with a restless itch. I scour websites reading stats, interviews, and watching last week's game to see what the guys did right or wrong and wondering if they will change something for the game the next day, and listen to podcasts i have already listened to twice that week.

Waking up on Game Day, the air tastes different. My family discusses the coaches, players, speculates about what plays will be called over breakfast, but that's just fueling the fire. This isn't just a trip to a stadium; it’s a journey home to 25,000 people who make up a dedicated tribe. We load up the bags and car and head to Missoula.

There is nothing like the moment right before the team storms out of the tunnel to "Bring 'em out now". That "calm" that isn't calm at all. It’s the band clashing with the stadium speakers, a powerful collision of sound that gets drowned out by a roar so loud it feels like the mountains themselves are screaming. There is a rhythm to it: the standing, the sitting, and the relentless, spirited back-and-forth with the brave souls wearing the away colors.

Every part of it matters. Every part of it is sacred to the experience, long lines for concession food, aroma of the tailgates, haze of forest fires, chili, hamburgers, hot dogs and ribs drifting through the air.

It's the chaos of kids playing and old friends getting together is the heartbeat of the day. Watching the skydivers and feeling the thunder of jets overhead creates a sense of pride and spectacle that defines the atmosphere. Even the ringing in the ears for hours and the loss of a voice for a day or two are badges of honor. It’s about the wave, the beach balls, and watching Monte surf over a sea of maroon. At the end of it all, when the Griz get the W it's waiting in the stands for them to finish singing the fight song before going down to the field to talk with players.

Dude, complaining about the schedule misses the point entirely.

It doesn’t matter if the opponent is the top-ranked team in the nation or an underdog. Any schmuck can analyze a stat sheet; you go to games and and watch parties to live and breathe Griz football.

Watching from a couch in the silence of a living room, yelling at a screen, can lead to a apathy and foments a bitterness that replaces the love for the game. If the magic isn't present in every game, for you, then change the channel, find another team to be a fan of, and enjoy the generic national broadcast.

Griz football is a living, breathing tradition. If one isn't there for the heartbeat of the community and the passion of the crowd, then they are missing the very essence of the sport.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
I don't know you. I am not on the "bash Oldngrizzly' wagon. You are entitled to your opinion.

If you don't feel the soul of a game played in Wa-Griz vibrating in your chest, then you’re just wasting oxygen in the stands.

Going to and watching Griz games isn't just a hobby for most of us.

For me the ritual starts the night before with a restless itch. I scour websites reading stats, interviews, and watching last week's game to see what the guys did right or wrong and wondering if they will change something for the game the next day, and listen to podcasts i have already listened to twice that week.

Waking up on Game Day, the air tastes different. My family discusses the coaches, players, speculates about what plays will be called over breakfast, but that's just fueling the fire. This isn't just a trip to a stadium; it’s a journey home to 25,000 people who make up a dedicated tribe. We load up the bags and car and head to Missoula.

There is nothing like the moment right before the team storms out of the tunnel to "Bring 'em out now". That "calm" that isn't calm at all. It’s the band clashing with the stadium speakers, a powerful collision of sound that gets drowned out by a roar so loud it feels like the mountains themselves are screaming. There is a rhythm to it: the standing, the sitting, and the relentless, spirited back-and-forth with the brave souls wearing the away colors.

Every part of it matters. Every part of it is sacred to the experience, long lines for concession food, aroma of the tailgates, haze of forest fires, chili, hamburgers, hot dogs and ribs drifting through the air.

It's the chaos of kids playing and old friends getting together is the heartbeat of the day. Watching the skydivers and feeling the thunder of jets overhead creates a sense of pride and spectacle that defines the atmosphere. Even the ringing in the ears for hours and the loss of a voice for a day or two are badges of honor. It’s about the wave, the beach balls, and watching Monte surf over a sea of maroon. At the end of it all, when the Griz get the W it's waiting in the stands for them to finish singing the fight song before going down to the field to talk with players.

Dude, complaining about the schedule misses the point entirely.

It doesn’t matter if the opponent is the top-ranked team in the nation or an underdog. Any schmuck can analyze a stat sheet; you go to games and and watch parties to live and breathe Griz football.

Watching from a couch in the silence of a living room, yelling at a screen, can lead to a apathy and foments a bitterness that replaces the love for the game. If the magic isn't present in every game, for you, then change the channel, find another team to be a fan of, and enjoy the generic national broadcast.

Griz football is a living, breathing tradition. If one isn't there for the heartbeat of the community and the passion of the crowd, then they are missing the very essence of the sport.
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The silent new Griz hype video.... Well done.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
I don't know you. I am not on the "bash Oldngrizzly' wagon. You are entitled to your opinion.

If you don't feel the soul of a game played in Wa-Griz vibrating in your chest, then you’re just wasting oxygen in the stands.

Going to and watching Griz games isn't just a hobby for most of us.

For me the ritual starts the night before with a restless itch. I scour websites reading stats, interviews, and watching last week's game to see what the guys did right or wrong and wondering if they will change something for the game the next day, and listen to podcasts i have already listened to twice that week.

Waking up on Game Day, the air tastes different. My family discusses the coaches, players, speculates about what plays will be called over breakfast, but that's just fueling the fire. This isn't just a trip to a stadium; it’s a journey home to 25,000 people who make up a dedicated tribe. We load up the bags and car and head to Missoula.

There is nothing like the moment right before the team storms out of the tunnel to "Bring 'em out now". That "calm" that isn't calm at all. It’s the band clashing with the stadium speakers, a powerful collision of sound that gets drowned out by a roar so loud it feels like the mountains themselves are screaming. There is a rhythm to it: the standing, the sitting, and the relentless, spirited back-and-forth with the brave souls wearing the away colors.

Every part of it matters. Every part of it is sacred to the experience, long lines for concession food, aroma of the tailgates, haze of forest fires, chili, hamburgers, hot dogs and ribs drifting through the air.

It's the chaos of kids playing and old friends getting together is the heartbeat of the day. Watching the skydivers and feeling the thunder of jets overhead creates a sense of pride and spectacle that defines the atmosphere. Even the ringing in the ears for hours and the loss of a voice for a day or two are badges of honor. It’s about the wave, the beach balls, and watching Monte surf over a sea of maroon. At the end of it all, when the Griz get the W it's waiting in the stands for them to finish singing the fight song before going down to the field to talk with players.

Dude, complaining about the schedule misses the point entirely.

It doesn’t matter if the opponent is the top-ranked team in the nation or an underdog. Any schmuck can analyze a stat sheet; you go to games and and watch parties to live and breathe Griz football.

Watching from a couch in the silence of a living room, yelling at a screen, can lead to a apathy and foments a bitterness that replaces the love for the game. If the magic isn't present in every game, for you, then change the channel, find another team to be a fan of, and enjoy the generic national broadcast.

Griz football is a living, breathing tradition. If one isn't there for the heartbeat of the community and the passion of the crowd, then they are missing the very essence of the sport.
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Thank you. One of my favorite posts...ever.
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
Sadly this is the future of FCS football. At this point, Carroll, Western Montana, MSU Northern, and Rocky should all join the Big Sky Conference. Why not? There are so many other programs moving up it would make sense. Heck we could have the Montana Division. Think of the money the Montana Schools would save? All they would have to do is travel by bus.

They would play all division games with one inter-conference game and one out of conference (Money) game with a 13th game being the Big Sky Conference Championship.

Big Sky East :
  1. University of Montana
  2. University of Montana-Western
  3. Montana State University
  4. Montana State University Northern
  5. Carroll College
  6. Rocky Mountain College
  7. Montana Tech
  8. Weber State
  9. UNC
  10. Lewis & Clark State College
Big Sky West
  1. Idaho
  2. Idaho State
  3. NAU
  4. UTU
  5. Eastern Washington
  6. Central Washington
  7. Western Washington
  8. Portland State
  9. Eastern Oregon
  10. Western Oregon
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You are clearly deranged...
 
SinCityGriz2005 said:
Sadly this is the future of FCS football. At this point, Carroll, Western Montana, MSU Northern, and Rocky should all join the Big Sky Conference. Why not? There are so many other programs moving up it would make sense. Heck we could have the Montana Division. Think of the money the Montana Schools would save? All they would have to do is travel by bus.

They would play all division games with one inter-conference game and one out of conference (Money) game with a 13th game being the Big Sky Conference Championship.

Big Sky East :
  1. University of Montana
  2. University of Montana-Western
  3. Montana State University
  4. Montana State University Northern
  5. Carroll College
  6. Rocky Mountain College
  7. Montana Tech
  8. Weber State
  9. UNC
  10. Lewis & Clark State College
Big Sky West
  1. Idaho
  2. Idaho State
  3. NAU
  4. UTU
  5. Eastern Washington
  6. Central Washington
  7. Western Washington
  8. Portland State
  9. Eastern Oregon
  10. Western Oregon
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Lewis & Clark college better fit in West division as it is in Portland and is a DIII program.
Lewis-Clark State is in Lewiston Idaho and is NAIA
 
Triwest said:
Lewis & Clark college better fit in West division as it is in Portland and is a DIII program.
Lewis-Clark State is in Lewiston Idaho and is NAIA
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If we are pulling up D3 and NAIA we should look at some of the top RMAC teams from D2 like CO Mines, CSU Pueblo and Colorado Mesa.
 
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