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Talkin Schmidt- Post Season Edition

Let me make it more concise and concrete.

Edward R. Murrow was a journalist.

Joe Rogan is not a journalist.
That’s why I had journalist in quotation marks, in this world the lines are extremely blurry. I think we can all agree it’s broadly considered MEDIA.

I just agree with their opinions, I think it explains the university’s and athletic departments recent shortcomings. And, given that they operate with a clearly different philosophy than we do, their recent successes provide some evidence to suggest that what the GFP and Schmidt claim has some truth to it.
 
That’s why I had journalist in quotation marks, in this world the lines are extremely blurry. I think we can all agree it’s broadly considered MEDIA.

I just agree with their opinions, I think it explains the university’s and athletic departments recent shortcomings. And, given that they operate with a clearly different philosophy than we do, their recent successes provide some evidence to suggest that what the GFP and Schmidt claim has some truth to it.
With the role that social media, disinformation and misinformation play in our society I believe it is critically important to try and make it as non blurry as possible. One is journalism, one is not.

For example, a journalist attempts to investigate and uncover the cat coaches DUI scandals. The media, a communications professional or a podcaster may not. That’s a difference that makes a difference.
 
Football 13-2 this season and final 4. Played in National Championship game 2 years ago. Won the MBB's regular season and tournament last year. Soccer has won Big Sky tournament last year and has been dominant last few years. Men's tennis 2025 Big Sky Champs. Volleyball showed dramatic improvement. Lady Griz hoops struggling big time. Softball too. So overall Griz athletics is above average to really good. Could be better..yes. Sucks losing to the Cats. But if you step back and look at it objectively...
Speaking just to football, the FCS and the BSC are worse now than they ever have been. No more JMU, APP state, Jacksonville State, Sam Houston, UMass, those are just the ones off the top of my head. Who are we going to lose to? 13-2 is easy when we play Sacred Heart, Central Washington, Idaho state, and EWU. Although we still almost blew the EWU and Idaho state games.

The big sky is just a two team race every year with occasionally Idaho or UCD flirting with contention, no other programs in the conference care…it’s just us, and the cats. And we are losing that battle at a devastating clip. 2-6 in the last 8 matchups, with some absolute BLOWOUTS.

We are surrendering the in state recruiting battle in embarrassing fashion, with reports of our coaches not even engaging in basic outreach attempts at players who just helped the cats win their first title in 40 some years.
 
The big sky is just a two team race every year with occasionally Idaho or UCD flirting with contention, no other programs in the conference care…it’s just us, and the cats. And we are losing that battle at a devastating clip. 2-6 in the last 8 matchups, with some absolute BLOWOUTS.
I don't think the Big Sky is nearly as weak as some would make it out to be, and it just hasn't been a two team race other than the last couple of years.

In the last 10 years, these are the number of championships per team (including shared titles) --

EWU - 3
Weber - 4
Sac State - 3
Davis - 1
Southern Utah - 2
MSU - 3
Montana - 1

The Big Sky is the second best conference in the FCS. Davis was in the semis just this last year. NAU has managed to get itself ranked at times, as has Idaho, Sac State, and ISU.

I just don't see it as being as weak as some are suggesting, and certainly not just a two team race. Heck, from 2012 to 2022, neither Montana team even won a shared conference title.
 
I don't think the Big Sky is nearly as weak as some would make it out to be, and it just hasn't been a two team race other than the last couple of years.

In the last 10 years, these are the number of championships per team (including shared titles) --

EWU - 3
Weber - 4
Sac State - 3
Davis - 1
Southern Utah - 2
MSU - 3
Montana - 1

The Big Sky is the second best conference in the FCS. Davis was in the semis just this last year. NAU has managed to get itself ranked at times, as has Idaho, Sac State, and ISU.

I just don't see it as being as weak as some are suggesting, and certainly not just a two team race. Heck, from 2012 to 2022, neither Montana team even won a shared conference title.
You’re right, it’s only been the last couple years that the BSC became a 2 team race every year. I think that we will only see UCD and Idaho flirt with contending. But do you see any other teams breaking into the top tier of the conference? I do not, and I’d challenge anyone to argue a case in favor of any of those other teams.

But that very list is still extremely damning for us. We have fewer titles in the last 10 years than Weber, Eastern, and SOUTHERN UTAH. Who has been the AD that entire time? Who has been our coach for 70% (I think) of those years? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills lol there’s a lot of merit in this opinion.
 
Weak compared to what? FBS conferences?
The MVFC but that is it for the FCS and the top of the Big Sky is probably equal to the top of the MVFC now that the Big Sky won a championship. The middle of the conference the MVFC is stronger. The bottom of the MVFC is probably just as bad as the bottom of the Big Sky though.
 
You’re right, it’s only been the last couple years that the BSC became a 2 team race every year. I think that we will only see UCD and Idaho flirt with contending. But do you see any other teams breaking into the top tier of the conference? I do not, and I’d challenge anyone to argue a case in favor of any of those other teams.

But that very list is still extremely damning for us. We have fewer titles in the last 10 years than Weber, Eastern, and SOUTHERN UTAH. Who has been the AD that entire time? Who has been our coach for 70% (I think) of those years? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills lol there’s a lot of merit in this opinion.
I was just disagreeing about the conference only being a two team race. Obviously I hate that Montana only has one.

I think you can argue a good case just off of past performance. Eastern took a national title from NDSU. In recent years, Davis, Idaho, EWU, and Weber have had teams that were at the top of the conference. In the case of EWU and Weber, they ended up with a bad coaching hire and they tanked. But that doesn't mean that with coaching changes they cannot come back. Idaho has been very good, just not quite great.

Davis will be an interesting one if they stay in the FCS. Lots of money pouring in to that school. Heck, with everything being new and building up on Utah Tech's campus they will be a very attractive option in the future for young athletes.

Conferences can be cyclical, but I don't see the Big Sky as being anything other than the second best conference in the FCS.
 
I don't think the Big Sky is nearly as weak as some would make it out to be, and it just hasn't been a two team race other than the last couple of years.

In the last 10 years, these are the number of championships per team (including shared titles) --

EWU - 3
Weber - 4
Sac State - 3
Davis - 1
Southern Utah - 2
MSU - 3
Montana - 1

The Big Sky is the second best conference in the FCS. Davis was in the semis just this last year. NAU has managed to get itself ranked at times, as has Idaho, Sac State, and ISU.

I just don't see it as being as weak as some are suggesting, and certainly not just a two team race. Heck, from 2012 to 2022, neither Montana team even won a shared conference title.
NIL has completely changed that IMO, I doubt we will see any of the lower to mid Big Sky teams winning or in competition for the Big Sky nearly as often. As of now it's the Cats Conference and we are up there along with Davis, might be 1 or 2 others who could sneak in depending on the year but that's the new normal.
 
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NIL has completely changed that IMO, I doubt we will see any of the lower to mid Big Sky teams winning or in competition for the Big Sky nearly as often. As of now it's the Cats Conference and we are up there along with Davis, might be 1 or 2 others who could sneak in depending on the year but it's the truth.
Why would NIL make it the Montana conference when NAU and Weber are larger schools closer to major metro areas with a lot of money?
 
The big sky is just a two team race every year with occasionally Idaho or UCD flirting with contention, no other programs in the conference care…it’s just us, and the cats. And we are losing that battle at a devastating clip. 2-6 in the last 8 matchups, with some absolute BLOWOUTS.
The two wins were also "absolute BLOWOUTS.
 
NIL has completely changed that IMO, I doubt we will see any of the lower to mid Big Sky teams winning or in competition for the Big Sky nearly as often. As of now it's the Cats Conference and we are up there along with Davis, might be 1 or 2 others who could sneak in depending on the year but that's the new normal.
No offense intended here, but I don't think that claim can really be made unless we know the amount in the NIL accounts for all the other schools. The Montana schools have also been capped from above on what they can spend at it. Has Weber or Davis been capped? How much has poured into NAU?

I'm not saying you are wrong, I am just saying that it is likely unknowable.
 
No offense intended here, but I don't think that claim can really be made unless we know the amount in the NIL accounts for all the other schools. The Montana schools have also been capped from above on what they can spend at it. Has Weber or Davis been capped? How much has poured into NAU?

I'm not saying you are wrong, I am just saying that it is likely unknowable.
It is definitely a bit of an unknown but it seems out of any other Big Sky schools the Montanas are willing to invest and spend more then most. It could change but as of now outside of Davis (and even then thats only been recently) no one else has really shown a willingness to invest in Football, actions > potential.
 
It is definitely a bit of an unknown but it seems out of any other Big Sky schools the Montanas are willing to invest and spend more then most. It could change but as of now outside of Davis (and even then thats only been recently) no one else has really shown a willingness to invest in Football, actions > potential.
Watch out for Weber, maybe not this season but in 2-3 years I think they have potential to be really good based on what they are building. Their new coach has connections to all the big high schools around SLC and they got Devin Brown who played at Corner Canyon in high school and was a 4 star prospect coming in at qb from Cal.
 
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