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Facilities, strength program, analytics

oldngrizzly said:
So tell me about the nutritional program at Montana.
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It's easy to identify if a "nutrition program" exists. Look for "RD" Registered Dietitian on the personnel in the org chart or the staff roster. Montana State lists two RD's on their athletics org chart and they are both directly under Sean Herrin. My guess is that RD internships are also in great demand with the RD undergrad program at MSU, amplifying their program success. There is a reason it takes four years to become an RD. The foundation is science- real chemistry, physiology, and biometrics, and the work is translating that and making it manageable for the person at the table. It's an amazing profession, and in my opinion if you want the optimal athletic performance result, an RD is directly involved.
 
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5280Griz said:
You think your D3 son and a few of his friends represents every D1 football recruit that Montana is targeting? You are more obtuse than I thought.
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How about my 2x daughters playing and competing in BIG volleyball and track?

Their visits included tours of all athletics facilities on campus and nutrition programs were discussed "in passing" only...

They were focused on coaching, degrees, and potential Olympic roster spots. Nutrition programs are well down the list.

Stay out of conversations when you know nothing about the topic at hand.
 
Bobcat99 said:
You said your son in the post I quoted. Is that the same one that went to Bozeman High the same time as Andrew Schmidt?
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Nephew at Bozeman high. Yes, my nephew was in same backfield. He led AA football in average per carry. Schmidt was the main back. My nephew started at corner at Dartmouth for 2.5 years. Is an ortho surgeon in Seattle.

My wife’s family has tons of former football players, some recent. As I have said before, her family and mine have 18 or 19 current or former coaches. They have been head football coaches and high school coaches at about 10 MT high schools over the years. My cousin is a current head coach in MT and has a former player on the Griz now. Our niece’s former husband is head AA coach now.
 
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5280Griz said:
You are lying. John played at D3. Dan is 50 years old and might have not played at all. If he did that would have been over 30 years ago he was recruited. Your man boobs are protruding in John’s photos on social media.
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My son was recruited by several D1 schools.

We have 5 kids. I have lost 40 pounds recently and still going down. Back to training for Olympics.

You are a creepy stalker. Now you are naming my kids on egriz and looking at their social media?

Mods?
 
SoldierGriz said:
How about my 2x daughters playing and competing in BIG volleyball and track?

Their visits included tours of all athletics facilities on campus and nutrition programs were discussed "in passing" only...

They were focused on coaching, degrees, and potential Olympic roster spots. Nutrition programs are well down the list.

Stay out of conversations when you know nothing about the topic at hand.
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We went from one idiot thinking his D3 football son represents all football recruits at D1 Montana to an even bigger idiot thinking his 2 daughters playing volleyball and track represents every college football recruit at Montana. You are the one who is posting about stuff you know nothing about, please stop. You are a loser with no personality and everyone can see it. You make your entire personality about being a soldier and don’t bring anything of value, NOTHING. Everyone here can see it.
 
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Norsky19 said:
Nailed it. Although squats, deadlifts and bench press are competitive "Powerlifting" lifts, whereas Olympic lifts are Clean and Jerk and the Snatch. But you're absolutely correct on all points. Unfortunately, it's really hard to keep good SC staff at the FCS because the pay is crap. I made 4X the money in the WAC and Mountain West.
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Thanks for the correction on the lifts. I'm sure it is more difficult to keep good S&C staff at the FCS level but, since other FCS schools have great S&C programs, its possible to have a great program even if it's difficult to keep great staff.

IMO, the S&C programs at UM shold be centralized under the AD or an associate AD, with a dotted line to the programs/programs they support. Is this how it's done at UM?
 
GriznMN said:
Thanks for the correction on the lifts. I'm sure it is more difficult to keep good S&C staff at the FCS level but, since other FCS schools have great S&C programs, its possible to have a great program even if it's difficult to keep great staff.

IMO, the S&C programs at UM shold be centralized under the AD or an associate AD, with a dotted line to the programs/programs they support. Is this how it's done at UM?
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I have no idea how UM runs things. Usually at the FBS level, you have a Head SC Coach, 2 or 3 assistant coaches and a bunch of grad assistants. You coach up the coaches and let the Grads lead on teams like golf, equestrian, etc. Assistants will lead on baseball, women's basketball and swimming like teams. The Head will lead on Football, Basketball....basically the money making sports. The Head will oversee program design and implementation. Usually a nutritionist will be an assistant. The Head will have weekly meetings with the Head Athletic Trainer, team doc, and the Head coaches and position coaches regarding special needs and individualized programs that supplement the Base program.

Some schools hire the Strength Coach directly influenced by the Football head coach. Others are hired and interviewed by all the Head coaches of each sport and then hired as a seperate coach by the AD. Each sports needs are radically different from each other and each respective coach wants to know if the Strength coach is knowledgeable in their areas.

SC coaches incomes are supplemented by running camps and clinics for high schools in the area and coaching high school teams on conditioning etc. Speaking engagements, and even personal training on the side. Rich people like to say their personal trainer is the Head SC coach for wherever...sort of a status thing.
 
5280Griz said:
We went from one idiot thinking his D3 football son represents all football recruits at D1 Montana to an even bigger idiot thinking his 2 daughters playing volleyball and track represents every college football recruit at Montana. You are the one who is posting about stuff you know nothing about, please stop. You are a loser with no personality and everyone can see it. You make your entire personality about being a soldier and don’t bring anything of value, NOTHING. Everyone here can see it.
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Soldier is one of the best posters on egriz. You are one of the worst. Again, my son and his friends were recruited by D1 schools and knows how they recruit. They don’t recruit on nutrition.
 
5280Griz said:
Likely the majority of active football recruits considering UM and their parents would be interested in watching. Recruits often care about player development resources, strength and conditioning support and the facilities. Your posts like this are why I think you are clueless about modern college football.
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Ya I mean it’d never be a deciding factor for a player. But the information doesn’t hurt. We use videos and pamphlets at MSU. I’ve seen them and they are nicely done. I imagine parents especially like the info. Mainly because it shows the efforts given to all student athletes. I think it makes a difference.

It’s like your champion center over there everyone is so proud of. I highly doubt that any recruit is going to let the champions center be their deciding factor of being a griz. But it is awesome and shows the commitment UM has to their athletes. How does that hurt?
 
Norsky19 said:
I have no idea how UM runs things. Usually at the FBS level, you have a Head SC Coach, 2 or 3 assistant coaches and a bunch of grad assistants. You coach up the coaches and let the Grads lead on teams like golf, equestrian, etc. Assistants will lead on baseball, women's basketball and swimming like teams. The Head will lead on Football, Basketball....basically the money making sports. The Head will oversee program design and implementation. Usually a nutritionist will be an assistant. The Head will have weekly meetings with the Head Athletic Trainer, team doc, and the Head coaches and position coaches regarding special needs and individualized programs that supplement the Base program.

Some schools hire the Strength Coach directly influenced by the Football head coach. Others are hired and interviewed by all the Head coaches of each sport and then hired as a seperate coach by the AD. Each sports needs are radically different from each other and each respective coach wants to know if the Strength coach is knowledgeable in their areas.

SC coaches incomes are supplemented by running camps and clinics for high schools in the area and coaching high school teams on conditioning etc. Speaking engagements, and even personal training on the side. Rich people like to say their personal trainer is the Head SC coach for wherever...sort of a status thing.
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At FBS schools, who does the head S&C coach report to?
 
GriznMN said:
At FBS schools, who does the head S&C coach report to?
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Usually the AD, but if you're Saban or a few others that have the negotiating power to bring in their own, then the head Football coach. Most are developing hundreds of athletes, not just football. But everyone knows where the bread is buttered....
 
ilovethecats said:
Ya I mean it’d never be a deciding factor for a player. But the information doesn’t hurt. We use videos and pamphlets at MSU. I’ve seen them and they are nicely done. I imagine parents especially like the info. Mainly because it shows the efforts given to all student athletes. I think it makes a difference.

It’s like your champion center over there everyone is so proud of. I highly doubt that any recruit is going to let the champions center be their deciding factor of being a griz. But it is awesome and shows the commitment UM has to their athletes. How does that hurt?
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No recruit cares about the nutrition program. Every recruit likes the Performance Center. Looks like none of you had kids recruited.
 
Norsky19 said:
Usually the AD, but if you're Saban or a few others that have the negotiating power to bring in their own, then the head Football coach. Most are developing hundreds of athletes, not just football. But everyone knows where the bread is buttered....
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Don’t know the org chart, but the UM strength coach knows Hauck is his boss.
 
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