How Illinois State and Montana State Built Championship FCS Rosters

[5280Griz]

Look at some of the Griz greats and what they are doing. Vince Huntsberger is a surgeon. Josh Brannon has his PhD and has a successful innovative veterinary company. Those are just a couple examples.If you are a football player it doesn’t define what your academic strengths are. Most on here probably played high school football but the guys that played for Griz and Cats were the best athletes we all played with. And most had to be pretty disciplined to go 4 years balancing school with football. That’s why they are some of our best high school teachers, coaches and administrators, business leaders, doctors, engineers? lawyers etc.

Most definitely, I am not saying their strengths are limited to business and sales but that is something most college football players will naturally be good at due to experience working as a team with 100 guys from all different backgrounds towards a common goal, if business and sales is something they want to do.

 

[oldngrizzly]

lawyers etc.

 

[UncleRico]

You will need a good lawyer after you shoot one of those kids that have been on your lawn that you have been yelling at!

 

[oldngrizzly]

You will need a good lawyer after you shoot one of those kids that have been on your lawn that you have been yelling at!

Good thing you were not looking when I was pissing on yours. Check for dead grass.

 

[UncleRico]

Good thing you were not looking when I was pissing on yours.

I knew that was you!

 

[PDXGrizzly]

Cyber Security & Data Analytics...those are degrees UM should both offer and promote. Just about guarantee yourself a nice paying job upon graduation.

They offer them! Just need to promote them.

 

[HikeGlacier]

Most college football players are a natural fit for careers in business and sales. UM’s business school is better and offers better degrees for careers in those fields than MSU.

What does being a college football player have to do with being a natural fit for business and sales?

 

[HikeGlacier]

My son went through the MS Data Science Program at UM. He’s had pretty incredible opportunities.

I've hired several from the program.

 

[Cowboys84]

What does being a college football player have to do with being a natural fit for business and sales?

I work in the medical field, alot of sales reps for surgical instrument companies are former athletes...especially in the orthopedic side.. mostly because it's good p.r...

 

[GriznMN]

I'd say about 5-10 Montana players per year are actual FCS quality. Which isn't rich, or enough for an fcs school.

Yet, it's enough for MSU. Go figure.

 

[GriznMN]

If you don't show kids you care during the recruiting process, then they aren't just going to show up on your doorstep. The kids that I coached who were good enough to play D1, had coaches showing up to our high school, showing up for games at the school and, sometimes, away games, inviting them to summer camps, and showing up at camps they were attending that were open to everyone. You have to put yourself out there and show the kids you care. You can't just call, text, and DM them.

 

[HikeGlacier]

If you don't show kids you care during the recruiting process, then they aren't just going to show up on your doorstep. The kids that I coached who were good enough to play D1, had coaches showing up to our high school, showing up for games at the school and, sometimes, away games, inviting them to summer camps, and showing up at camps they were attending that were open to everyone. You have to put yourself out there and show the kids you care. You can't just call, text, and DM them.

If you listen to the last Griz podcast, they talk about Griz coaches not being at high school games in Montana.

 

[5280Griz]

What does being a college football player have to do with being a natural fit for business and sales?

I already said this in my response to Rico. Are you illiterate and can’t read or are you extremely lazy and don’t have the motivation to read through 7 posts?

 

[HikeGlacier]

I already said this in my response to Rico. Are you illiterate and can’t read or are you extremely lazy and don’t have the motivation to read through 7 posts?

I'll answer for you. It has zero.

 

[5280Griz]

I'll answer for you. It has zero.

Exactly the response I would expect from someone who has never been in a college football locker room or been around people who have played and excelled in careers in sales when they are done playing.

 

[HikeGlacier]

Exactly the response I would expect from someone who has never been in a college football locker room or been around people who have played and excelled in careers in sales when they are done playing.

I own a company and started all four years of my college football career. I am way more qualified than you will ever be to talk about the connection between employees and college athletics.

 

[5280Griz]

I own a company and started all four years of my college football career. I am way more qualified than you will ever be to talk about the connection between employees and college athletics.

I also own a company and club baseball is not the same as college football.

 

[jrifkin48]

I fear Bobby may have gotten complacent letting the Montana namebrand do all of the work. Its a huge advantage, but if he's not actively hitting the High Schools while Vigen is, we're in trouble.

 

[argh!]

Yes, at least two cases on their current roster. The kids didn’t even consider Montana because of the degrees they wanted to pursue. This is a tough concept for some I guess. Kids playing FCS know they have a narrow shot at playing in the Not For Long league. Even if they do, there is no guarantee they get a fat contract and don’t get cut. So, the smart ones prepare for life and choose a degree they believe will provide for them long term. One of the two actually might play in the NFL. I hope he does. I pull for all Montana kids and he has great parents. STEM students are positioned well at MSU. Not everyone is pursuing careers in those fields. Business and some science fields are great at U of M. People need to wrap their heads around what a kid goes through in the recruiting process. They make weird decisions that often defy logic. Anyone who has been through the process knows that.

according to cheatgpt, the current bobs team has 6 montana kids majoring in an engineering field, including some of their best players. i think that's about 15% of their montana kids overall, which is a meaningful number.

 

[5280Griz]

according to cheatgpt, the current bobs team has 6 montana kids majoring in an engineering field, including some of their best players. i think that's about 15% of their montana kids overall, which is a meaningful number.

How many of those 6 are things like financial engineering which are math based degrees but not really engineering in the traditional sense? That might be the difference between the 2 and 6 players.