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The way forward

Stop_HammerTime69

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To the Bobby defenders, you’re right. You cannot fire a coach after a 13-2 season, even if those 13 wins don’t mean squat next to those 2 losses. It’s a bad look that we wouldn’t be a friendly environment to coaching candidates.

So here’s what needs to happen instead: fire the athletic director. The rot permeates the entire athletic department. You can see it in every single sport that the Griz are generally decent in their conference but are leagues behind the Cats. It wasn’t always this way, but it is now. Mens Basketball, women’s basketball, everything. They are consistent at winning when the games don’t matter, but you put them against the Cats, or any other big game, and the teams just fold. The moment is too big and we piss down out legs.

If that’s the case, fans lose hope. And the business of sports, if anything else, is in the business of selling hope. All the merch, ticket sales, donations - all of that - is because people have hope that if they contribute in some way, their team can achieve the impossible. But if you can’t convincingly sell your fans hope in the team, you’ve lost your market, and the business crumbles.

Haslam has been the AD since 2012. While maybe he’s done admirably given the free falling state of the school, this can clearly be seen as the worst stretch of grizzly athletics in the last 50 years. Haslam made the failed Stitt hire and now the failed Hauck hire. There is no hope for the program under Hauck anymore. It has hit is ceiling. That hope is gone. Similarly, in Men’s basketball, if the Griz make the tournament, I have no hope they’re going to make any noise. None. I like Decuire. I think he’s a boon to the Missoula community. But nobody gives a damn about regular season championships when the team collapses to Eastern Washington or the Cats in the regular season tournament. There’s no reason to believe. I don’t think that’s wholly DeCuire’s fault. Men’s basketball culture on campus is dead, and that’s part of a larger trend of people turning away from college basketball entirely because the game has become a boring slog of defense, fouls, and bricked threes. But to my original point, there’s just no reason to hold faith that, if the team does get the opportunity to do something remarkable, that they will take it. If there’s no reason to believe, fans disengage, and that’s when the real free fall begins. I bring this up because it’s not just in football.

The other side of this as it relates to football is that it sends a clear message that making no adjustments defensively in the last three weeks and coming out that flatfooted against the Cats is not acceptable. It takes away whatever bulwark that lets Hauck be an arrogant prick. You bring in a new AD, and they’re going to want to hire a football coach because that’s the biggest hire they’re going to make in their tenure. It’s a chance to leave a stamp on the school. Further, Hauck’s contract is set to expire on January 31, 2027. It sends a major “put up or shut up” message that the new guy wants someone else in your seat.

Giving Hauck his last year on the contract sends a good message that we’re a patient, rational fanbase, and it has the gives the staff the chance to keep the core of the team together for one last ride.

So the course of action is clear. Get rid of the AD. That sends a message to Hauck to make sweeping changes to the program. New AD should modernize the department under the new House settlement rules.

Then, either the team goes 7-5 and loses to the Cats a 4th time in a row, and you just don’t extend Hauck. OR we all get the chance to eat the best tasting crow we’ve ever had.

Maybe Hauck’s tenure is on its last legs. But the Haslam era of grizzly athletics coincides with one of the worst eras in school history that saw a complete ascendency of our rivals. Someone has to be accountable for this.
 
That’s a hell of a way to put it in context. Between the two revenue sports, only one title in football and four conference tournament titles in the last 12 years is damning.
5 total titles over 13 years between the 2 revenue generating sports (not confident about Basketball this year after the MT-Tech loss) is a 19.23% of success.

We are one of the top 2 schools in the Conference in terms of facilities, fans, resources etc. and we can barely find any success since Haslam took over. He's had more then enough time to be successful and I'd argue he's failed miserably.

*Added for for Comparison: Montana State in the same time frame has 4 Big Sky Football Titles and 3 Conference tournament titles in Basketball.*
 
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5 total titles over 13 years between the 2 revenue generating sports (not confident about Basketball this year after the MT-Tech loss) is a 19.23% of success.
We are one of the top 2 schools in the Conference in terms of facilities, fans, resources etc. and we can barely find any success since Haslam took over. He's had more then enough time to be successful and I'd argue he's failed miserably.
Also our facilities will only get us so far. They are quickly becoming dated and there are more and more teams at our level with equal or far better facilities. We scrape by with what we have
 
Bark bark bark, but you are howling at the moon. Kent and Bobby are going nowhere unless they choose to go elsewhere. And I get that the 2 losses suck, but 13 wins does matter.
I agree that we can't overlook the 13 wins, but it also doesn't diminish the fact we are now 2nd fiddle to MSU since Haslam taking over as AD and we've had a clear fall off in overall Athletic success during his tenure.
 
Congratulations to the Griz players & coaching staff for a fantastic 13-2 season, and condolences for their heart-breaking loss to MSU in the FCS semifinals on Saturday.
I won't criticize the players or coaches (or even the AD) specifically so soon after such a terrible loss--I'm sure they're suffering terribly as it is--but I think it may be worthwhile to offer a broadly-critical observation by way of "the way forward" for the Griz. Hopefully, other Griz fans will see this as a constructive criticism and will also respond with their own thoughts.
So, can anyone tell me why the Griz have so much trouble playing at the high level we all know they are capable of for more than one or two quarters per game? This obviously doesn't apply to every game--and is admittedly subjective--but I think most would agree that the Griz have shown a pattern of inconsistency that goes back for more than a decade, from Coach Delaney up through the present. It has been most evident in recent years, and also in a number of games this season (despite the winning record), and while the Griz seemed to overcome it in the playoff games against SDSU and USD, once again in the semifinal against MSU the Griz were only competitive in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
I submit that overcoming this pattern of inconsistency will require significant change if the Griz are to become truly dominant at the national FCS level. If the Griz don't change and improve this shortcoming somehow, there will inevitably be teams that will play consistent, reliable football, and that will prevail (however distasteful it may be, I must credit MSU in this regard).
So how do we turn this into a constructive criticism? I'm not sure . . . perhaps the Griz should rely less on the 'big play' and more on 'in the trenches' fundamental football, focusing less on recruiting players with 'big play' skills and more on truly competitive offense & defensive lineman; perhaps the Griz should streamline and enhance the flexibility of coach/player communications (especially during games); perhaps the Griz should consolidate and improve their defensive coaching staff; perhaps the Griz should abandon the corporate coaching staff culture and adopt a more player-oriented football culture. Again, I don't have the answers, but maybe other fans and students of the game would like to weigh in here?
 
So, can anyone tell me why the Griz have so much trouble playing at the high level we all know they are capable of for more than one or two quarters per game? This obviously doesn't apply to every game--and is admittedly subjective--but I think most would agree that the Griz have shown a pattern of inconsistency that goes back for more than a decade, from Coach Delaney up through the present. It has been most evident in recent years, and also in a number of games this season (despite the winning record), and while the Griz seemed to overcome it in the playoff games against SDSU and USD, once again in the semifinal against MSU the Griz were only competitive in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
I submit that overcoming this pattern of inconsistency will require significant change if the Griz are to become truly dominant at the national FCS level. If the Griz don't change and improve this shortcoming somehow, there will inevitably be teams that will play consistent, reliable football, and that will prevail (however distasteful it may be, I must credit MSU in this regard).
If the Griz were only competitive in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, does that mean the Cats were only competitive in the 1st and 4th quarters?
 
I'm not going to be spending any more money supporting the athletics department in any way shape or form until Haslem is gone. I don't have any hope or reason to think things are going to improve soon until we get a more motivated AD in place.
You withholding money from the AD until Haslam is removed won’t solve the problem. If you truly want the problem solved, then you should email Bodnar instead and tell him how you feel!
 
This just popped in my head, so does Ah Yat have to battle for the starting job next year since Bobby has his rule of winning your job each year.
 
Here is the Truth. The university can't afford anyone better at coach or AD. Firing what we got most likely means going even farther backward not forward. Truth is this is the peak we are going to reach most likely.
 
I don't have money to withhold but I won't be going to any games next year, there is no point when you know the outcome. Plus I won't have anyone to watch play their heart out for nothing.

Hauck must go, this team is going backwards not forwards.
 
Here is the Truth. The university can't afford anyone better at coach or AD. Firing what we got most likely means going even farther backward not forward. Truth is this is the peak we are going to reach most likely.
thats not true, and its a defeatist attitude
 
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