Ok it's official, Weber has the worst AD in the country and it's not even close. A high school coach? That's seriously the best you could do? They fired Mental early to get a jump start on their coaching search and this is the best they could do? Holy hell Weber.
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Weber State hires a high school coach?
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alabamagrizzly
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I wonder if he's the dad of one of their receivers.
grizfan1984
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Corner Canyon is a powerhouse program nationally they just played for a high school national championship last week vs St Francis Maryland. Kjar is a great coach. And yes his sons the WR for them
I kinda lol whenever people get upset that DI programs hire high school coaches, or NAIA coaches, or hire their sixth choice. If you know football, you're going to do well regardless of experience level.
This is the way the BSC roils.
UNLV did something similar when they hired Tony Sanchez as their coach, he previously coached at bishop o'gorman in Las Vegas tight before the UNLV job.. it didn't work out too well for them..so its not like it hasn't been done before.
HelenaHandBasket
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Are people even sure this is worse than Mickey Mental?
SinCityGriz2005
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I know I'm getting trolled for this one. We are all pretty savvy on here. The "traditional" path is usually
High‑school coach to small‑college Head/Asst Head coach (or successful Division II/III) to FCS/FBS head coach.
Gus Malzahn won state titles at two Arkansas high schools, then became a college coordinator and then head coach at Arkansas State, and finally Auburn.
Art Briles was a high school assistant HC at two high schools, then head coach at three more, including Stephenville (home to Tarleton) before becoming a college assistant and then head coach at Houston and Baylor.
Chad Morris coached at five different high schools, including again, Stephenville, before moving up to a college assistant and then head coach at SMU and Arkansas
The list goes on, Chip Kelly, Lovie Smith, Doug Pederson, Tommy Tuberville, Urban Meyer, Bill Snyder, Paul Johnson.
We could argue that the scale and complexity of college staffs, recruiting, roster management, compliance, and media obligations are far larger and more specialized than typical high‑school programs, but the national powerhouse high schools are anything but typical.
They recruit. They have big staffs, media obligations, travel, NIL.
Also, while typical high‑school records don’t translate cleanly against the FCS level opponents, it could be argued they could stack up against most D2, and definitely D3, NAIA, and JUCO levels.
Finally, in today's high school football landscape, coaches are exposed to the same issues as college coaches now. They have to be able to game plan for nationally ranked teams, travel across the United States several times, again, they have to deal with recruiting, NIL (see Ohio and the court cases here) nd high‑level staff management because the people sending their kids to these schools are highly visible people (Snoop and Bishop Gorman for one example, Spencer Rattler & Netflix, Etc).
High School football in Montana is still an amateur game. You go outside of Montana and it's a big business with millions of dollars involved. Look at Mater Dei, Bishop Gorman, De La Salle, Westlake, IMG, Don Bosco, Buford, Katy, St. Thomas Aquinas, Edna Karr, and Dematha just to name a few (I'm a nerd. I love following high school football too).
You don't think the people who helped to build the 2 Billion Katy ISD stadium, don't have those teams interests and success in mind? C'mon man.
Deion Sanders started at Katy before going to an FCS school. Yeah you can say well, he's Deion and played in the NFL. So did a lot of other players but they aren't coaching in the Big12 two stops later are they? (even if he sucks).
Let's see how the guy does. I wish him the best of luck against everyone but UM.
High‑school coach to small‑college Head/Asst Head coach (or successful Division II/III) to FCS/FBS head coach.
Gus Malzahn won state titles at two Arkansas high schools, then became a college coordinator and then head coach at Arkansas State, and finally Auburn.
Art Briles was a high school assistant HC at two high schools, then head coach at three more, including Stephenville (home to Tarleton) before becoming a college assistant and then head coach at Houston and Baylor.
Chad Morris coached at five different high schools, including again, Stephenville, before moving up to a college assistant and then head coach at SMU and Arkansas
The list goes on, Chip Kelly, Lovie Smith, Doug Pederson, Tommy Tuberville, Urban Meyer, Bill Snyder, Paul Johnson.
We could argue that the scale and complexity of college staffs, recruiting, roster management, compliance, and media obligations are far larger and more specialized than typical high‑school programs, but the national powerhouse high schools are anything but typical.
They recruit. They have big staffs, media obligations, travel, NIL.
Also, while typical high‑school records don’t translate cleanly against the FCS level opponents, it could be argued they could stack up against most D2, and definitely D3, NAIA, and JUCO levels.
Finally, in today's high school football landscape, coaches are exposed to the same issues as college coaches now. They have to be able to game plan for nationally ranked teams, travel across the United States several times, again, they have to deal with recruiting, NIL (see Ohio and the court cases here) nd high‑level staff management because the people sending their kids to these schools are highly visible people (Snoop and Bishop Gorman for one example, Spencer Rattler & Netflix, Etc).
High School football in Montana is still an amateur game. You go outside of Montana and it's a big business with millions of dollars involved. Look at Mater Dei, Bishop Gorman, De La Salle, Westlake, IMG, Don Bosco, Buford, Katy, St. Thomas Aquinas, Edna Karr, and Dematha just to name a few (I'm a nerd. I love following high school football too).
You don't think the people who helped to build the 2 Billion Katy ISD stadium, don't have those teams interests and success in mind? C'mon man.
Deion Sanders started at Katy before going to an FCS school. Yeah you can say well, he's Deion and played in the NFL. So did a lot of other players but they aren't coaching in the Big12 two stops later are they? (even if he sucks).
Let's see how the guy does. I wish him the best of luck against everyone but UM.
Well McGuire had 4-5 years college coaching experience at Baylor, part of that time as assistant head coach, prior to being hired at TT.
And I don't think anyone is necessarily saying it won't or can't work. But rather, a head coaching job at a bsc school in a desirable area to live seemingly should attract candidates with more college coaching experience.
oldrunner
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I agree with those who say this is a risk. However, I would also say that hiring any new coach is a risk. Kjar has been around WSU football for several years now and knows everyone in the program, and they all know him well. He is well respected by everyone and will recruit the intermountain area very well. He is a high energy type of leader. Most everybody I know was pulling for him, but knew it was a big jump to D1 from HS. Nobody knew who Jay Hill was before we hired him either.
If and how long it takes coach Kjar to get the program back on track, to compete with the top of the BSC, is anyone's guess. I'm pulling for him to get the job done.
The guy will do just fine.
McGuire's value wasn't that he had a couple years at Baylor. It's that he'd coached TEXAS HS football for 20+ years and knew EVERY. SINGLE. COACH.
That's the value Kjar will bring. IMHO.
Still though. Zero collegiate coaching experience at any level of College Football? The guy has spent his entire career coaching high school. And now he's a D1 head coach? Imagine if the Griz hired a guy like this. We'd be having the biggest meltdown anyone has ever seen.
5280Griz
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Zach and Isaac Wilson. Corner Canyon are big shots when it comes to Utah high school football. The school only recently opened in 2013. They have an offensive lineman on the Raiders in addition to 2 qbs in the NFL.
