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Has a three seed ever

Mavman

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Been so disrespected? A lot of GRIZ fans don’t think the GRIZ can win. Fans of other teams SDSU, NDSU, cats all act like the GRIZ are Div 3. All you ever hear on social media is Griz suck, Hauck sucks they play a soft schedule and they have done nothing for 15 years. SDSu and cats have been dominant for about 5 years, in that time Montana has wo. The big sky went to the chipper and beat NDSU. Cats have not won the championship since 84 yet act like they belong in the same conversation as NDSU.
What is it about Montana that other people hate so much???
I realize Griz have not been great the last ten years however they have gotten zero respect for an amazing year this year and in 2023.
The Griz are not NAU or Northern Colorado.

Just curious why Montana is hated so much
 
Been so disrespected? A lot of GRIZ fans don’t think the GRIZ can win. Fans of other teams SDSU, NDSU, cats all act like the GRIZ are Div 3. All you ever hear on social media is Griz suck, Hauck sucks they play a soft schedule and they have done nothing for 15 years. SDSu and cats have been dominant for about 5 years, in that time Montana has wo. The big sky went to the chipper and beat NDSU. Cats have not won the championship since 84 yet act like they belong in the same conversation as NDSU.
What is it about Montana that other people hate so much???
I realize Griz have not been great the last ten years however they have gotten zero respect for an amazing year this year and in 2023.
The Griz are not NAU or Northern Colorado.

Just curious why Montana is hated so much
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
 
It's funny you should say that, because in terms of disrespect this team does not hold a candle to the 2007 Griz team that went undefeated 11-0 and only got the #3 seed behind also undefeated #2 McNeese State and #1 UNI. The talk that season was that we were the weakest undefeated team in I-AA history after our historically weak schedule.

That team was absolutely loaded, and if not for a bad draw against a weird offense might have been another deep playoff Griz team.

Let everyone think we suck, who cares. If we're as good as we think we are, we'll be playing in Nashville.
 
Been so disrespected? A lot of GRIZ fans don’t think the GRIZ can win. Fans of other teams SDSU, NDSU, cats all act like the GRIZ are Div 3. All you ever hear on social media is Griz suck, Hauck sucks they play a soft schedule and they have done nothing for 15 years. SDSu and cats have been dominant for about 5 years, in that time Montana has wo. The big sky went to the chipper and beat NDSU. Cats have not won the championship since 84 yet act like they belong in the same conversation as NDSU.
What is it about Montana that other people hate so much???
I realize Griz have not been great the last ten years however they have gotten zero respect for an amazing year this year and in 2023.
The Griz are not NAU or Northern Colorado.

Just curious why Montana is hated so much
It's because those particular posters from other teams either are mostly trolls or are clueless about the game of football. And some of the Griz fans are also clueless about the game. My Cat fans friends are not like that. In fact, some of them seem to be nervous about the Cats most every year.
 
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
The Griz schedule was as tough or tougher than the Cats, except for Oregon. The Cats played a couple of very weak teams. Central Washington was way better than those teams. And the Griz played Idaho when they had their QB and the team was good or very good. It is total BS that the Griz played a weak schedule. You suffer from the very thing the OP was talking about. I always laugh when Cat fans think they deserve credit for getting completely crushed by Oregon. Scored against on every drive, I believe, all but one a TD.
 
Been so disrespected? A lot of GRIZ fans don’t think the GRIZ can win. Fans of other teams SDSU, NDSU, cats all act like the GRIZ are Div 3. All you ever hear on social media is Griz suck, Hauck sucks they play a soft schedule and they have done nothing for 15 years. SDSu and cats have been dominant for about 5 years, in that time Montana has wo. The big sky went to the chipper and beat NDSU. Cats have not won the championship since 84 yet act like they belong in the same conversation as NDSU.
What is it about Montana that other people hate so much???
I realize Griz have not been great the last ten years however they have gotten zero respect for an amazing year this year and in 2023.
The Griz are not NAU or Northern Colorado.

Just curious why Montana is hated so much

Respect is earned. Not given. The Griz have a chance to earn a bunch of kudos and go on a revenge tour. In the words of another poster (presumably, a pretty famous one). Win, that is all.
 
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
“. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.” I think self awareness is probably not a strength for you. Read your post and the majority of Cat fans posts on here. Arrogant, disrespectful and awful would perfectly describe that. Get over yourself. Most Cat fans I know are fine. The majority are clowns that post on here.
 
“. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.” I think self awareness is probably not a strength for you. Read your post and the majority of Cat fans posts on here. Arrogant, disrespectful and awful would perfectly describe that. Get over yourself. Most Cat fans I know are fine. The majority are clowns that post on here.
That is the interesting thing, Cat fans seem to think they are so great and far superior to the griz yet have not won the chipper since 84. The same thing they bash Hauck and the Griz for no championship since 2001.
 
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
Then I guess you haven't seen your own fanbase (not you specifically) since the cats started having a modicum of success.
 
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
A somewhat pragmatic take from a Cat perspective. There are definitely UM fans who are stuck in the old days and think we are who we were in the early 2000s, which is not the case for many reasons, some of which are outside UM’s control (the game has adapted, the transfer portal, conference realignment, the DSU run of dominance, and others).


What is interesting is that your first sentence starts to describe the way MSU fans have become or are becoming, while still carrying a lingering little man syndrome from losing 16 straight, a streak that ended 25 years ago. What that streak did to the MSU fanbase is clearly still affecting them today, and it shows. I did not know that much pent-up aggression and vitriol could remain in a fanbase, but many of you still seem to feel the need to thump your chest every time you do something that could be considered even a minor victory over UM. I am not sure why MSU fans are still seeking validation, but then again, what have you achieved in the last 25 years that UM has not?
 
A somewhat pragmatic take from a Cat perspective. There are definitely UM fans who are stuck in the old days and think we are who we were in the early 2000s, which is not the case for many reasons, some of which are outside UM’s control (the game has adapted, the transfer portal, conference realignment, the DSU run of dominance, and others).


What is interesting is that your first sentence starts to describe the way MSU fans have become or are becoming, while still carrying a lingering little man syndrome from losing 16 straight, a streak that ended 25 years ago. What that streak did to the MSU fanbase is clearly still affecting them today, and it shows. I did not know that much pent-up aggression and vitriol could remain in a fanbase, but many of you still seem to feel the need to thump your chest every time you do something that could be considered even a minor victory over UM. I am not sure why MSU fans are still seeking validation, but then again, what have you achieved in the last 25 years that UM has not?
Thank you, you just summed up what I was trying to say in a much better way.
 
The Griz schedule was as tough or tougher than the Cats, except for Oregon. The Cats played a couple of very weak teams. Central Washington was way better than those teams. And the Griz played Idaho when they had their QB and the team was good or very good. It is total BS that the Griz played a weak schedule. You suffer from the very thing the OP was talking about. I always laugh when Cat fans think they deserve credit for getting completely crushed by Oregon. Scored against on every drive, I believe, all but one a TD.
Just when I think you couldn’t be any more stupid I see another even worse post from you. MSU opponents won 56% of their games, UM 45%. The Cats beat UC Davis who is better than anyone Griz beat.
 
It's because those particular posters from other teams either are mostly trolls or are clueless about the game of football. And some of the Griz fans are also clueless about the game. My Cat fans friends are not like that. In fact, some of them seem to be nervous about the Cats most every year.
Let's compare shall we..resumes' and records against fcs teams only...

U of Montana 60-73, 1-1 vs. fcs playoff teams, 8 home games..don't hand me how good C.Washington was, they got bounced in the first round of division 2 playoffs..

MSU, .. 71-61 and 2-1 vs. Fcs playoff teams Big Sky conf champs..

NDSU,..73-76... Mvfc championship. 5-0 vs fcs playoff teams..
 
Let's compare shall we..resumes' and records against fcs teams only...

U of Montana 60-73, 1-1 vs. fcs playoff teams, 8 home games..don't hand me how good C.Washington was, they got bounced in the first round of division 2 playoffs..

MSU, .. 71-61 and 2-1 vs. Fcs playoff teams Big Sky conf champs..

NDSU,..73-76... Mvfc championship. 5-0 vs fcs playoff teams..
I think he is trolling. It is not possible for hoops to really be this clueless about football.
 
Easy. You guys were really good for a long time. And your fans at that time were awful. Most arrogant fanbase I’ve seen.

Now a majority of you seems lost in those olden days. Nostalgic! But you have the same arrogant fanbase without any of the success you had 25 years ago. You’re very easy to dislike because you’re like Cowboys fans.

And this is with all due respect. I like this board and many of the posters. This is just generally speaking just as all of you generally speak about the Bobcats.

As far as a disrespected 3 seed. It’s just because you’ve played no one this year. You played a weak schedule with like 65% of the games at home and it was easy to see you’d be undefeated or maybe 1 loss going into playoffs.

Good news is you can shut everyone up by winning. Win a couple games at home and beat the Cats in Bozeman like so many of you assume you’ll do; and this is all moot.

Personally I think you’re a good team. I feel like Cats should have beaten you by more but that’s ok; you think you should have won. All reasonable and nothing that can be proved either way.

Win Saturday. Win the following week. I expect you to at home. Win on the 20th in Bozeman and I’ll literally tip my cap to you.
I don't disagree with you often. But this -- in its entirety -- is a big assed

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A somewhat pragmatic take from a Cat perspective. There are definitely UM fans who are stuck in the old days and think we are who we were in the early 2000s, which is not the case for many reasons, some of which are outside UM’s control (the game has adapted, the transfer portal, conference realignment, the DSU run of dominance, and others).


What is interesting is that your first sentence starts to describe the way MSU fans have become or are becoming, while still carrying a lingering little man syndrome from losing 16 straight, a streak that ended 25 years ago. What that streak did to the MSU fanbase is clearly still affecting them today, and it shows. I did not know that much pent-up aggression and vitriol could remain in a fanbase, but many of you still seem to feel the need to thump your chest every time you do something that could be considered even a minor victory over UM. I am not sure why MSU fans are still seeking validation, but then again, what have you achieved in the last 25 years that UM has not?
Won't ever deny that GR. I've said a bunch that while I'm sure it was a ball for griz fans, the streak was terrible for the rivalry. It kind of started a teeter totter of shit behavior that won't go away for a while.

I think it's all about perspective though. Griz fans like to use the term validation. That is just more cockiness in my opinion. Like Cat fans talking crap or bragging about our teams is somehow just wanting validation and not being just what it is.....trash talk.

Were griz fans just looking for validation from Cat fans during the streak? After all we had way more success than the griz in the 70's and 80's. So was the more than a decade of relentless trash talk being hurled my way just a form of seeking validation? Or was it just a very cocky griz fanbase that hated the Cats and thought there success would/should last forever?

I keep it pretty even keeled. Love the rivalry and have many friends and family on your side. But I was in high school and college right smack dab in the middle of the streak and it was terrible. Griz fans were just awful. Bozeman or Missoula it didn't matter. We were terrible and Griz were really good and they still showed very little class or humility. You don't just endure year after year of being treated so terribly, and than just forget all about it when the playing field seems to level off.

I've seen a lot of really douchey Cat fans over the last 10 years as we've had success. I won't deny that. But you have your head in the clouds if you think that griz fans weren't the exact same way, tenfold, during the streak. I lived it. So I'll be honest, even a respectful guy like myself would be lying if I said I didn't take pleasure in the griz losing and Cats winning. And I maintain that as long as everyone thinks the griz program now is just what it was 25 years ago; the better for the Cat program so I'm all about it! ;)
 
I don't disagree with you often. But this -- in its entirety -- is a big assed

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Ha. That's fair EG. Griz fans will obviously have their own opinions. This is the way I see it and I'd imagine many probably share my take. But you won't hurt my feelings by disagreeing completely.

Love that vid though!:ROFLMAO:
 
It's because those particular posters from other teams either are mostly trolls or are clueless about the game of football. And some of the Griz fans are also clueless about the game. My Cat fans friends are not like that. In fact, some of them seem to be nervous about the Cats most every year.
They are much much more accurate in their analysis of football than you will ever be
 
Let's compare shall we..resumes' and records against fcs teams only...

U of Montana 60-73, 1-1 vs. fcs playoff teams, 8 home games..don't hand me how good C.Washington was, they got bounced in the first round of division 2 playoffs..

MSU, .. 71-61 and 2-1 vs. Fcs playoff teams Big Sky conf champs..

NDSU,..73-76... Mvfc championship. 5-0 vs fcs playoff teams..
Funny thing is if Davis beats Sac Griz are 2-1 vs playoff teams and cats 1-1
However that did not happen.
 
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