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Student recruiting at MSU - not all roses

I ran into a neighbor on my walk this morning, whose son used to go to MSU. I asked him where his scat flag was and this started a long conversation about MSU and Bozoland. Suffice it to say, it's not all roses over at MSU. My neighbor's son went his freshman year and didn't go back for his sophomore year. He didn't like the MSU dorm life and, outside of the outdoorsy activities, there's nothing to do in Bozoland. He liked being close to Yellowstone but he didn't like to be outdoors as much as he thought he would. He also thought the football players were cocky and arrogant. He said the MSU recruiter over-promised and MSU under-delivered. My neighbor said that's what they've been hearing from many of the MSU Minnesota connections they have. So it seems like MSU gets a ton of kids the first year and they don't return their sophomore year.
It also sucks living in Bozeman unless you’re a wealthy ski kid.
 
Update: Unbeknownst to me, my daughter applied to both MSU and UM last week. She heard back from UM the next day. Still hasn't heard from MSU. She's a great student (takes after her mother): 33 ACT, six AP courses with 4/5s, 3.9 GPA, and ranked #3 out of 473. She's involved in five activities and two sports. Does a ton of volunteering in the community and works two jobs. UM is on their game, MSU not so much.
 
Update: Unbeknownst to me, my daughter applied to both MSU and UM last week. She heard back from UM the next day. Still hasn't heard from MSU. She's a great student (takes after her mother): 33 ACT, six AP courses with 4/5s, 3.9 GPA, and ranked #3 out of 473. She's involved in five activities and two sports. Does a ton of volunteering in the community and works two jobs. UM is on their game, MSU not so much.
UM is sending next day acceptance letters? I thought only open enrollment junior colleges did that. Lol.
 
I ran into a neighbor on my walk this morning, whose son used to go to MSU. I asked him where his scat flag was and this started a long conversation about MSU and Bozoland. Suffice it to say, it's not all roses over at MSU. My neighbor's son went his freshman year and didn't go back for his sophomore year. He didn't like the MSU dorm life and, outside of the outdoorsy activities, there's nothing to do in Bozoland. He liked being close to Yellowstone but he didn't like to be outdoors as much as he thought he would. He also thought the football players were cocky and arrogant. He said the MSU recruiter over-promised and MSU under-delivered. My neighbor said that's what they've been hearing from many of the MSU Minnesota connections they have. So it seems like MSU gets a ton of kids the first year and they don't return their sophomore year.
Kid sounds like a whiner.
 
Update: Unbeknownst to me, my daughter applied to both MSU and UM last week. She heard back from UM the next day. Still hasn't heard from MSU. She's a great student (takes after her mother): 33 ACT, six AP courses with 4/5s, 3.9 GPA, and ranked #3 out of 473. She's involved in five activities and two sports. Does a ton of volunteering in the community and works two jobs. UM is on their game, MSU not so much.
Is it too late to send her to foster care? Sounds like a good kid but makes 50/50 good choices.
 
Is it too late to send her to foster care? Sounds like a good kid but makes 50/50 good choices.
She's a bit of a rebel with her dad. So I told her if she goes to UM, I won't post on this message board anymore. If she goes to MSU, I will start posting on their message board and not in a good way. 🤣
 
I rememeber another time I heard from someone's best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend, that someone was really sick and that concussion was just wrong.

Every college has a drop-off of students, especially out of state kids, from year 1 to 2. You don't realize what its like to be that far from home until you are. Its one thing to visit with your parents. Once you get dropped off and that realization hits....and the bigger the school the easier it is to feel like you're lost in the shuffle.
 
Every college has a drop-off of students, especially out of state kids, from year 1 to 2. You don't realize what its like to be that far from home until you are. Its one thing to visit with your parents. Once you get dropped off and that realization hits....and the bigger the school the easier it is to feel like you're lost in the shuffle.
It is hard to be away from home for an extended period of time for a 17, 18, or 19 year old who likely hasn't been away from their parents for more than a couple of days or a week at most. However, my neighbor's son is an Eagle Scout and he's been mature and self-sufficient since he was 15 years old. The concerning part is when my neighbor said MSU over-promised and under-delivered. I'll have to get more details what that means the next time I see him.

FYI, my daughter said there were no noticeable differences between applying to UM and MSU except for the cost. MSU was more expensive than UM. That's the spend for applying not the spend for attending.
 
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