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When is it going to leak out or get announced that Vigen is departing?
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Dont Kick 2 Bergen
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Maybe I am Walter, you guys always like to accuse everyone of being somebody else
WildhorseGriz
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Bobcat nation says he got a great thing going there's no way he leaves....he be stupid not
go ...really he's at the prime of his coaching career...mission accomplish he won the Brawl again
and he knows he not beating the Bison's this year...strike while the irons hot. Plus its every
coach's dream of being the next Saban...how may Bobcats does he take on the way out..
that's the question...
oldngrizzly
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It's all BS I tell you. Smoke and mirrors. Vegan is headed to Ohio. Get someone on the ground for a hot take when he arrives. Hoops to the rescue. I am sure he knows someone in Ohio.
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What a huge distraction right now for the Bobcats. No ifs-ands-or buts about it, this is a major distraction. Doesn't mean it will have a negative effect on the team but you have coaches wondering if they are going to be chosen to go to Oregon State, a small hand full of players wondering. He has past coaching connections angling for jobs. You have other former bobcat coaches angling for jobs to get back to Bozeman if Vigen leaves. Vigen has his recruits lined up that he could possibly try and take to Oregon. You have other recruits who are now going to think about it since Vigen no longer at MSU, do they want to open back up their recruitment? How fast can the cats get a full-time head coach in place to manage the transition? Again, doesn't mean this is going to negatively hurt the playoff performance of the team, but it is a Giant Cluster Furball. At msu-Bozeman you ride for the brand... until you realize it time to get the hell out 
Can you get us some inside information how Bergen is doing on the practice squad with the 49ers? I was hoping they would call him up at some point this season to get a look at his ability. I hope he is healthy and practicing well with the team. Patrick OConnell has waited a long time to get his shot and doing well, I hope Bergen gets the same chance.
They've got the bucks. Not just bucks, but BUCK$!!! And, if they run out of bucks, Daddy Warbucks will shovel some more their way. Look at the Head Coaches that were fired this year, and the payouts they received. The numbers are staggering. The bar was set at Texas A & M, a while back, who paid out, what, $50 million or more to get Jimbo out the door. God, I'm glad I don't have the headaches associated with having all that money. On the other hand, the price of Tylenol or Ibuprofen might be worth it.
Grizzlies1982
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Apparently Walter gets around.
Isn't Walter the dude in the Big Leibowski? "Shut the f up Donny"
Dont Kick 2 Bergen
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Mark it zero Smokey!
If Vigen is truly gone it will be interesting to see how one of the top teams in the nation does with a coaching change in this new ERA. SDSU did not come out unscathed last year.
Many say NDSU,MSU and Montana will just roll through a coaching change, I disagree with this new NIL.
Many say NDSU,MSU and Montana will just roll through a coaching change, I disagree with this new NIL.
Grizzlies1982
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What a huge distraction right now for the Bobcats. No ifs-ands-or buts about it, this is a major distraction. Doesn't mean it will have a negative effect on the team but you have coaches wondering if they are going to be chosen to go to Oregon State, a small hand full of players wondering. He has past coaching connections angling for jobs. You have other former bobcat coaches angling for jobs to get back to Bozeman if Vigen leaves. Vigen has his recruits lined up that he could possibly try and take to Oregon. You have other recruits who are now going to think about it since Vigen no longer at MSU, do they want to open back up their recruitment? How fast can the cats get a full-time head coach in place to manage the transition? Again, doesn't mean this is going to negatively hurt the playoff performance of the team, but it is a Giant Cluster Furball. At msu-Bozeman you ride for the brand... until you realize it time to get the hell out
Well, if you put it that way I guess it might be a bit of a distraction at msu.
It really just depends on if you are a glass half full, or glass half empty, kind of guy.
Imagine: You're 50 years old. Choose between:
- $295K salary at FCS Powerhouse MSU and live in Bozeman, MT where it costs 21% higher to live than the national average.
- $2 million salary at G5 Oregon State and live in Corvallis, OR where it costs 8% higher to live than the national average.
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He was the first to announce their last head coach hire too
HelenaHandBasket
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I don't believe it it the distraction many are claiming. College sports have changed and the year to year expectations are different. Players and coaches know this.
Agree the cats will be fine. They thought all was lost when Choate left and they got better. They’ll find another good coach. They might have a couple down years if Vigen takes a bunch of players with him but they’ll be fine..
If vigen is hired away, he'll no doubt bring some of his top staff, and some top talent including qb, and lineman. It will be a much bigger adjustment than choate leaving to Texas, as choate did not take any staff or players with him. The only player that followed him from Montana was Gabe Sultzer from UM
The biggest thing going for MSU is the amount of Montana studs they have, id assume they all largely stay with MSU. I bet guys like Adam Jones, Cole Taylor etc stay with msu. I bet the dowler twins stay, etc.
oldngrizzly
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Vigen is a very good coach. He deserves better than OS.I remember when he took over for Choate everyone said no way he could make the team better than it was. Well he not only made it better but for an FCS team top tier. He's a solid professional coach. I would sign him in a New York minute. He is a steal for OS.
Point being, they've lost several dudes over the oast few years to graduation and transfer portal, especially key linemen. Thus far it hasnt been too much detriment, but vigen and staff leaving and taking some dudes from the lines and secondary would be tough.If vigen is hired away, he'll no doubt bring some of his top staff, and some top talent including qb, and lineman. It will be a much bigger adjustment than choate leaving to Texas, as choate did not take any staff or players with him. The only player that followed him from Montana was Gabe Sultzer from UM
The biggest thing going for MSU is the amount of Montana studs they have, id assume they all largely stay with MSU. I bet guys like Adam Jones, Cole Taylor etc stay with msu. I bet the dowler twins stay, etc.
And to the point made by someone else about the fiscal dynamics of the coaches salary and cost of living in bozeman, ain't nobody getting rich head coaching in bozeman (or missoula, for that matter). Its not a slam dunk easy transition to a successful new coach.
Copper Griz
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Bingo! I laugh at all the MSU fans who say he won’t leave for whatever crazy reason they can come up with. The math you cited is reason alone. Factor in weather, better facilities, better competition and the potential for a huge contract down the road if he can turn that program around. Bob Hauck did the same thing for less money and a program that was a dumpster fire. If he would have been successful at UNLV he wouldn’t have come back to Montana. He would have taken a higher paying job.
Wasn’t he right there for the JMU job before coming back when Cignetti got it?
