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Big Sky Officiating Thread

HelenaHandBasket said:
So if it a systemic issue, where do you think the BSC can get the officials you seek?
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Simple solution skills and awareness assessments periodically. No need to hire more expensive or more experienced officials.

My main point, had whoever these officials are stay mindful of the tone, precedence, environment, etc be consistent! Had that been the case, officiating inconsistencies are minimized!

Hell, I'm only a fan and in a short time other fans seem to care, minus a few idiots. We already have video examples of comparing Lamson's TD no flag play to a called back TD from a very minor infraction.

As a crew, before every game, establish a game plan! Stay aware! Either call each game by the book, or set and keep an established precedence! Come on, that's not difficult.
 
mtgrizrule said:
You're part of the problem.
Tried to preface your type of posts and dumb assery, in the original post!
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I am not the one crying about the refs every game.

It doesn't matter what the refs do or how bad they are. Control the stuff you can control and quit looking like you do every week
 
Griz2k said:
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I realize this is a still shot and doesn't tell the whole story, but as 56 tries to cut back to his left, I believe he gets held, albeit briefly. Maybe he gets to Lamson, maybe not but I'd say it certainly impeded his progress.
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That is text book blocking and definitely not a hold even in a still shot.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Simple solution skills and awareness assessments periodically. No need to hire more expensive or more experienced officials.

My main point, had whoever these officials are stay mindful of the tone, precedence, environment, etc be consistent! Had that been the case, officiating inconsistencies are minimized!

Hell, I'm only a fan and in a short time other fans seem to care, minus a few idiots. We already have video examples of comparing Lamson's TD no flag play to a called back TD from a very minor infraction.

As a crew, before every game, establish a game plan! Stay aware! Either call each game by the book, or set and keep an established precedence! Come on, that's not difficult.
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So are you for calling all penalties or no penalties?
 
You need to read a rule book STAT!

Almost every comment you make and every thread you start shows your lack of understanding of the rules and how football is played.. Most people would be embarrassed
 
Your choices, continue to accept inconsistent at best Big Sky officiating or work together to improve it? I'm obviously for efforts to improve it the best we can!
 
mtgrizrule said:
I see this is a hot topic and rightfully so.
This subject needs it's own thread for comments, analysis, videos, suggestions, etc. It's NOT intended for trash talking, name calling, etc.

Unfortunately, the facts are, Big Sky officiating has been terribly inconsistent for to many years. All the Big Sky fan bases have been complaining a lot about it.

In an effort to start somewhere to hopefully respectfully discuss and bring attention to it, let's get going here. I'm encouraging fans of all Big Sky fan bases to partake respectfully.

Let me introduce the 1st video. It's a short video of Lamson's TD run. I suggest pausing the video, then advancing it by dragging the slide bar. Pay close attention from 2 seconds to 4 seconds.

How many possible minor penalties do you see? I saw hints of a below the waist block, possible holding, and possible block in the back. Feel free to add to it.

Also please add more videos to this thread with your observations. I encourage videos and discussions from ALL Big Sky fan bases.

Do you see just as minor possible penalties on this equal to or worse than the hold called on Schaefer?

Once the officials estsblish what and how they're officiating, they need to STICK with it! No need to expect perfection, just consistency for both teams in all games.


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what are "hints of a below the waist block"?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
So are you for calling all penalties or no penalties?
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Did I not state to have the officiating crew establish their game plan and awareness before and during every game?

Christ sake, consistency shouldn't be difficult! That's all I want to see. Regardless of what they call or don't call game to game.
 
mtgrizrule said:
Did I not state to have the officiating crew establish their game plan and awareness before and during every game?

Christ sake, consistency shouldn't be difficult! That's all I want to see. Regardless of what they call or don't call game to game.
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So you would be fine if they didn't even carry flags after establishing the game plan?
 
Griz2k said:
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I realize this is a still shot and doesn't tell the whole story, but as 56 tries to cut back to his left, I believe he gets held, albeit briefly. Maybe he gets to Lamson, maybe not but I'd say it certainly impeded his progress.
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I don’t think this is a hold. Offensive tackle is in good position. If Peck kept working top shoulder instead of peaking inside he would’ve put the Tackle in a disadvantageous position and should’ve been a sack in my opinion. We really only can control what we can control. Everyone gets frustrated with the officiating at times, but it’s a fruitless endeavor. Control the controllable and enjoy the game!
 
406football said:
I don’t think this is a hold. Offensive tackle is in good position. If Peck kept working top shoulder instead of peaking inside he would’ve put the Tackle in a disadvantageous position and should’ve been a sack in my opinion. We really only can control what we can control. Everyone gets frustrated with the officiating at times, but it’s a fruitless endeavor. Control the controllable and enjoy the game!
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Ya, don't misunderstand me, I'm not complaining about the officiating at all but to me it looks like the lineman pulls Peck's jersey as he's starting to turn back to his left to give chase. It's minimal of course and probably better seen in the live video, just pointing out that everyone starts screaming about a hold when you see the jersey being pulled.
 
406football said:
I don’t think this is a hold. Offensive tackle is in good position. If Peck kept working top shoulder instead of peaking inside he would’ve put the Tackle in a disadvantageous position and should’ve been a sack in my opinion. We really only can control what we can control. Everyone gets frustrated with the officiating at times, but it’s a fruitless endeavor. Control the controllable and enjoy the game!
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Technically I'd say you're correct, and he should work top shoulder. The problem is, he's being held by the tackle's right hand, and can't get outside the tackle's shoulder. That's when he tries to duck inside. It's a hold, but likely not egregious enough to call.

But that just solidifies Rules' point. What we need is consistency. And if that's not a hold here, it's not a hold all game. And that's not the officiating we got.
 
wbtfg said:
what are "hints of a below the waist block"?
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How can you not see a low block to Lamson's backside? It's clear as day. Is it minor, yes. So was our called back TD!

Based on what the crew had already established precedence on, neither should have been called. Unfortunately, some were, some weren't.

F this, apparently most you don't care that officiating needs improved consistency.

I'll look forward to yet another year of terribly inconsistent officiating and hard working teams getting short changed by the officiating.

At least I'm trying to improve this crap with concrete examples and even solutions. Meanwhile, rather than addressing an ongoing problem, the messenger is being shot! I don't get, how every Big Sky fan base collectively complains about officiating, yet accepts mediocrity, then complains further to those trying to improve the problems? Wtf?
 
EverettGriz said:
Technically I'd say you're correct, and he should work top shoulder. The problem is, he's being held by the tackle's right hand, and can't get outside the tackle's shoulder. That's when he tries to duck inside. It's a hold, but likely not egregious enough to call.

But that just solidifies Rules' point. What we need is consistency. And if that's not a hold here, it's not a hold all game. And that's not the officiating we got.
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Well lets circle back to this question, how many bad calls, non-consistent, do you think there was in the game?
 
mtgrizrule said:
How can you not see a low block to Lamson's backside? It's clear as day. Is it minor, yes. So was our called back TD!

Based on what the crew had already established precedence on, neither should have been called. Unfortunately, some were, some weren't.

F this, apparently most you don't care that officiating needs improved consistency.

I'll look forward to yet another year of terribly inconsistent officiating and hard working teams getting short changed by the officiating.

At least I'm trying to improve this crap with concrete examples and even solutions. Meanwhile, rather than addressing an ongoing problem, the messenger is being shot! I don't get, how every Big Sky fan base collectively complains about officiating, yet accepts mediocrity, then complains further to those trying to improve the problems? Wtf?
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So rule, how many inconsistent calls were there? Two, three? Funny thing is, no matter how consistent they try to be, there will be some calls that seem to trend away from the mean.
 
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