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2 weeks to go - playoff picture from the 2 conferences that matter

BWahlberg

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Another week down, and another team off the bubble in the Big Sky. Idaho's loss to UC Davis last week pushes their small chances and probably gives a boost to NAU. Let's take a look at who's trending in the Big Sky and the Missouri Valley

Big Sky Conference: 2 teams are in, and the Big Sky could send 4 pretty easily but not 5.

Montana (10-0 / 6-0) - @ PSU, vs MSU - Obviously in with 10 wins. Beat Portland State and should be a lock for a top 4 seed. Doesn't matter if going into the brawl the Griz are 2nd or 3rd in the playoff committee's eyes - win it and you're the 2 seed. After a frustrating EWU win though, can't slip up and lose to Portland, that could be devastating.

Montana State (8-2 / 6-0) - vs UCD, @UM - Cats are in, even if they lose both, which I don't foresee anyways. Go 0-2 and you're still a seeded team with at least 1 home game, go 1-1 and you're a top 8, go 2-0 and you're the 2 seed.

UC Davis (7-2 / 5-1) - @MSU, vs Sac - Monumental task for UC, a big road win against UI and then back on the road against the Cats. They're in the top 10 right now, a loss to the Cats won't push them out of the playoffs, a loss to Sac though puts them at 7-4, probably still in the top 20... they're going to be on the bubble. An earlier head to head with NAU will help. How will the committee handle their no decision against presumably playoff bound Mercer, a game they were leading when it was called? Also, if Davis wins out, and Cats beat Griz... who gets the AQ? ISU beat Davis, Griz beat ISU.

Sacramento State (6-4 / 4-2) - vs UI, @ UCD - If Sac wins out they're in, being able to cap off the season on a 4 game win streak and beating a ranked Davis team on the road will complete the resume for the post season. Drop just 1 game and they're out. I think if the committee is considering Sac or NAU (if both win out) Sac has a ranked win and is in over NAU.

Northern Arizona - (6-4 / 3-3) - vs CPSLO, @ Weber - NAU has to win out. Losses this season are Arizona State, MSU, Davis, Idaho - so no "bad" loss, but also no "good win" as I don't think any team they've beat has over a .500 record. NAU is really cheering for Sac to drop a game too so there isn't a side by side comparison bc if so Sac will have a win over a ranked conference team and a better conference record.


Missouri Valley Conference: It's wild to look at but the MVFC has 7 teams that are still viable for the playoffs. Lots of big matchups in the weeks ahead.

North Dakota State (10-0 / 7-0) - vs UNI, vs St Thomas (MN) - The Bison are going to lock down the 1 seed, St Thomas is 7-3 but come on man, UNI has won 3 games.

South Dakota (7-4 / 5-2) - @SIU - USD dropped an early game to Lamar (now likely a playoff bound team) and fell all the way out of the polls. Now they have just 1 game left and a bye in the last week. Their other losses are Iowa State, NDSU, and Illinois State. Back to back wins against North Dakota and SDSU have them trending well.

Illinois State (7-3 / 4-2) @SDSU, vs SIU - Both SDSU and SIU can't afford another loss, both games could be knockout games. ISU's best is South Dakota, their OOC wins are pretty bad teams, they need to win out themselves.

North Dakota (6-4 / 4-2) @Murray St, vs SDSU - Murray State should be a "get right" game for UND and then it'll all come down to the SDSU game. If the Jackrabbits can beat ISU and UND beats Murray their matchup would have them at 7-4 v 8-3 and that game would determine who finishes over who in the conference standings. If UND loses to SDSU they'll be 7-5 with losses to possibly all playoff teams - they could still sneak in but will need help

South Dakota State (7-3 / 3-3) vs Illinois State, @ UND - SDSU is on a 3 game skid and for them the playoffs start this weekend, if they go 1-1 they will be 8-4 but they'll be 4-4 in conference and out of all the teams listed above will be the only team with a REAL BAD loss, their home loss to Indiana State. Maybe the committee gives them some love considering their injury situation, but I think there's other teams that are more deserving than them in that scenario. That week 2 win @ MSU though could be something they can cling to in the committee's eyes.

Youngstown State (6-4 / 3-3) vs Indiana State, @ UNI - Easy final 2 games for YSU against two, 3 win games. They have to win out. YSU's got wins against SIU and Illinois State, their losses right now are to Michigan State, SDSU, UND, and NDSU. YSU really needs SDSU to drop 1 more. If both finish 8-4 SDSU has the head to head and the early road win against MSU.

Southern Illinois (6-4 / 3-3) vs USD, @ISU - SIU has to win out as well and as you can see this grouping of SIU, USD, UND, SDSU, and ISU going to settle out with the upcoming head to head games. SIU kind of seems to be the NAU of the MVFC this year - no wins against top conference teams, they've beat Indiana State, UNI, and Murray State, while they've lost to NDSU, UND, and YSU. SIU is on the wrong side of the bubble right now, but winning out would correct that.
 
Sacramento State (6-4 / 4-2) - vs UI, @ UCD - If Sac wins out they're in, being able to cap off the season on a 4 game win streak and beating a ranked Davis team on the road will complete the resume for the post season.
Davis fans haven't forgotten 2023. That team had Larison and Teddye Buchanan (performed below preseason expectations, but no slouch)

Sac was ranked #8 coming into the Causeway Classic.
Both teams were 6-4. Davis was on the bubble, Sac was apparently not.

Aggies were up 31-14 with 2:26 left in the game, when Sac scored a garbage TD to make the final 31-21.
Committee left 7-4 Davis with a victory over #8 Sac out, and 7-4 Sac went on. Some say that TD kept Davis out. Davis ended the season on a 3-game winning streak.

2025 Seems like a nearly perfect reversal of the 2023 situation. Hopefully the committee will remember 2023. Both teams have strong SOS (20 and 32) so that shouldn't be an issue.

The committee loves ranked teams and always prioritize them, understandably.
 
Davis fans haven't forgotten 2023. That team had Larison and Teddye Buchanan (performed below preseason expectations, but no slouch)

Sac was ranked #8 coming into the Causeway Classic.
Both teams were 6-4. Davis was on the bubble, Sac was apparently not.

Aggies were up 31-14 with 2:26 left in the game, when Sac scored a garbage TD to make the final 31-21.
Committee left 7-4 Davis with a victory over #8 Sac out, and 7-4 Sac went on. Some say that TD kept Davis out. Davis ended the season on a 3-game winning streak.

2025 Seems like a nearly perfect reversal of the 2023 situation. Hopefully the committee will remember 2023. Both teams have strong SOS (20 and 32) so that shouldn't be an issue.

The committee loves ranked teams and always prioritize them, understandably.

Big question will be - can Davis stop the run? Also play clean football, Sac seems to have found some correction with penalties since the Montana game.
 
Sac is a force on the ground for sure.
Causeway/MSU is going to be where Davis misses Rex and Porter Connors the most. Brutal.

Sac has worked their way back into the top-4 power teams in the BSC, in my opinion. Once they start a QB who can complete a 10 yard pass, they are on their way with the size/speed all over that roster (considering they don't all leave or get kicked out of school).
 
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Sac is a force on the ground for sure.
Causeway/MSU is going to be where Davis misses Rex and Porter Connors the most. Brutal.

Sac has worked their way back into the top-4 power teams in the BSC, in my opinion. Once they start a QB who can complete a 10 yard pass, they are on their way with the size/speed all over that roster (considering they don't all leave or get kicked out of school).
Lol we had no issues with them on the ground ;)
 
Lol we had no issues with them on the ground ;)
True. They averaged 3.3 yards on the ground vs. UM. They got you guys in total yardage though.
Just looked at the penalties in that game. Their 10 penalties to the Griz's 1 was a big factor too.

Sac isn't quite the rushing juggernaut against "real" defenses. Davis should be able to keep them in check at least.

24 yards vs. SDSU (you read that right)
146 yards vs. Nevada (only included because they are FBS)
141 yards vs. Griz

It seems like 300+ vs. everyone else.
 
True. They averaged 3.3 yards on the ground vs. UM. They got you guys in total yardage though.
Just looked at the penalties in that game. Their 10 penalties to the Griz's 1 was a big factor too.

Sac isn't quite the rushing juggernaut against "real" defenses. Davis should be able to keep them in check at least.

24 yards vs. SDSU (you read that right)
146 yards vs. Nevada (only included because they are FBS)
141 yards vs. Griz

It seems like 300+ vs. everyone else.
I don't totally disagree, but their offense has DEFINITELY changed since the SDSU game. That was their first game with Marion's new offense installed, and it didn't seem like they were really ready for the big time. They run the ball a LOT more now. Their QB threw the ball 27 times in the SDSU game, vs only 11 in this game. They have changed things up, for sure.

But I agree that they should probably beat Davis with the state Davis is in right now.
 
Not my chart - pulled from a playoff picture post on Reddit. It's this posters opinion of where things stand on playoff berths. Generally makes sense, and if so he's got 22 of the 24 spots either locks or in good shape for making it.
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Pulled from this thread where this poster puts his opinion on the state of things with 2 weeks to go:

 
Also, if Davis wins out, and Cats beat Griz... who gets the AQ? ISU beat Davis, Griz beat ISU.
I believe in that scenario the tiebreaker is combined record against the tied teams before comparing records against the descending conference standings, so:

UC Davis (1-0)
MSU (1-1)
UM (0-1)

UC Davis would get the AQ
 
It's so odd to see how bad the Socon and the Southland have been the last few years. I know they've both lost great programs, but man....
 
Davis beats Sac so they’re out, but Davis loses to MSU, so they’re out.
NAU is in when that happens.

Gonna be really weird when only 3 BSC teams make it into the playoff.
 
The UC Davis - Mercer game earlier this year could have really helped the Big Sky as a whole and Davis. Davis was controlling most of the game. When the game got canceled, Mercer was mounting a bit of a comeback. I still think UCD was going to win the game. It would have been a nice win on the road.
The team that best represented the Big Sky in the non-conference this year was….your Montana Grizzlies. The rest of the conference should be grateful because it factors in to the teams that make the tournament.
 
I believe in that scenario the tiebreaker is combined record against the tied teams before comparing records against the descending conference standings, so:

UC Davis (1-0)
MSU (1-1)
UM (0-1)

UC Davis would get the AQ
Nicks, I'm not certain that's accurate. Since it would be a circular tie, the next step would be to compare "common conference opponents". This is yet another one of those instances in which the bsc sucks, because those 3 teams haven't played all common opponents. And none of the 3 teams would have a loss against a team the other two beat. So the third tie break is Sagarin ratings.


Sooooo bsc. #bsc.
 
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