Exactly. Though I think it is a point that may be worth exploring with regard to the rise of NDSU. Eastern Washington was also really good, and kids would have been just as likely to go there to stay close to home.
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Is there pressure on this team to win another championship before we move up?
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406football
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Forgot to add Eastern. I agree with the premise of where NDSU were getting recruits and why. However, I don't think there is as much FBS talent in Minnesota compared to Washington and Oregon, so there isn't a ton of options for recruits from Minnesota. They aren't getting recruited by the top schools in the BIG Ten and the best option is NDSU.
mthoopsfan
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A recent text: "Yes we lost QB’s and did have a Sr. From Phoenix that played ok in 1st game, but not very mobile, got a bit dinged up in game 2 or 3, went with true Freshmen from Florida".
And the senior did in fact get hurt and have surgery. "Weber State head coach Jody Sears has announced senior quarterback Jordan Adamczyk has left the team.
“Jordan has battled a series of knee injuries and he decided it was best for him to have surgery and finish his degree,” Sears said. “We thank Jordan for his contributions to Weber State and wish him the best in his future.”
So, my "source" says "lost QB's", plural, and then had the starter get hurt, have surgery and retire. As I knew, I had good info all along.
And the senior did in fact get hurt and have surgery. "Weber State head coach Jody Sears has announced senior quarterback Jordan Adamczyk has left the team.
“Jordan has battled a series of knee injuries and he decided it was best for him to have surgery and finish his degree,” Sears said. “We thank Jordan for his contributions to Weber State and wish him the best in his future.”
So, my "source" says "lost QB's", plural, and then had the starter get hurt, have surgery and retire. As I knew, I had good info all along.
5280Griz
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I agree with most of what you are saying. This is a hypothetical not something that would ever happen in reality which I think is fair to look at how NDSU had some extenuating circumstances which helped create their dynasty and it is not fair to hold that against Bobby Hauck. MN is in between WA and OR in terms of the high level players coming from the state. NDSU is not getting guys who are getting offers from the top Big 10 programs that are getting the best nationally like Ohio State but they have players who got offers from programs like MN, the Huskers and Iowa. If Bobby Hauck had access to players who were getting offers from mid level Big 10 schools I think it is fair to ascertain he would have had more success.
5280Griz
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You first said top 3 or so qbs which was wrong.
406football
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I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that Minnesota and North Dakota had a tuition partnership. That helps getting any type of walk-on player from Minnesota. I agree that we would have had more success, but there are a plethora of quality programs those kids from Washington would choose to skip to play at the FCS level, that's where I disagree.
5280Griz
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You are correct on the tuition partnership which does help get walk ons from Minnesota for NDSU and UND. We do agree that it would never happen for the Griz due to a plethora of reasons namely the number of quality programs in the region. This was just a hypothetical if all the other programs around the Griz weren’t good which is not the case or ever going to be the case.
mthoopsfan
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You don't know which 3 QB's got hurt and left. What I said is in my post. You have become the laughing stock of egriz.
5280Griz
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You are wrong and keep posting wrong information. I am not sure why because you also posted the correct information earlier. There was 1 qb who quit the team due to lingering issues from prior knee injuries but he was being outplayed by the freshman anyway. That’s it for the qb injuries. There was no second or third qb injured which you said yourself earlier.
A recent text: "Yes we lost QB’s and did have a Sr. From Phoenix that played ok in 1st game, but not very mobile, got a bit dinged up in game 2 or 3, went with true Freshmen from Florida".
This text is the correct information. There were no 2nd and 3rd qbs getting injured. If there were 2nd and 3rd qbs injured who were they? You claim you can text Pflu to verify this information. Everything I find on the situation states senior qb played 2-3 games, was being outplayed by freshman and was having knee issues. Freshman was qb2 then promoted to qb1 and played in all 12 games injury free.
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HelenaHandBasket
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Do you enjoy slamming your head off the wall over and over and over?
mthoopsfan
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I am right on this and have posted the correct information all along, and it's in my posts. The point was that Weber lost a bunch of QB's after Pflu arrived in Feb. At least 3. The starter got hurt early in the season. My information is mostly from Pflu. Feel free to call him and dispute it. What an idiot you are.
Where is your verification that the senior played in 2-3 games. That is wrong. No big deal. The frosh was obviously not the no. 2 QB in the spring. Things changed with QB's as the year went on.
In any event, Weber was hurting for QB's.
5280Griz
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My source is Weber State’s websiteJordan Adamczyk
2013 (Senior)
Played in four of five games for the Wildcats and started two games, before leaving the program...Finished the season 25-54 passing for 209 yards with one touchdown and one interception...Had 118 yards passing and one touchdown in WSU’s season-opening win over Stephen F. Austin.
Austin Chipoletti
2013 (Freshman)
Saw action in all 12 games for the Wildcats as a true freshman quarterback, after signing with Weber State in February 2013...Started in nine of the final 10 games of the season...Finished the season 172 of 302 passing for 1,650 yards and had eight passing touchdowns...Threw for touchdowns against McNeese State, Eastern Washington, Portland State, Southern Utah and Idaho State...Had a season best 331 yards passing with two touchdowns at Portland State on Nov. 2...Also threw for 309 yards against Montana State and 263 yards and three touchdowns against Southern Utah on Nov. 9...Had a season-long play of 48 yards for a touchdown to Cameron Livingston at McNeese State...Also had 113 rushing attempts for 142 yards and two touchdowns...Had one reception for nine yards against Southern Utah and had one punt for 32 yards in the season opening win against Stephen F. Austin.
Jordan Adamczyk was the qb1, who wasn’t very good and had knee issues limiting mobility, he left the team and retired from football in October and qb2 at the beginning of the season Austin Chipoletti who had playing better than Adamczyk and should have been qb1 from the start played in all 12 games uninjured. Who are the second and third quarterbacks besides Jordan Adamczyk who were dealing with injuries what are their names?
mthoopsfan
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You didn't post the correct info. You googled and make up stuff.
I got my information from Robin. Yes, I can text with Robin, and I showed the board the text. What part of his text don't you understand.
You said the senior qb played in 2-3 games. Your own post about proves you wrong: "Played in four of five games for the Wildcats and started two games, before leaving the program." The Weber website of stats says 4 games.
You just Google lightly, jump to conclusions (often wrong), make up stuff, and post incorrect things. You don't understand football. You don't know much about Griz football. You certainly never played the game. the bulk of the board knows that much info and analysis is very good. Many know I know Robin well. I attended his daughter's wedding near Missoula in July.
You just posted a quote proving that you were wrong. Are you so dumb that you didn't even know that?
The whole point of my argument was that Weber had had significant qb issues, lost some, didn't get enough out of their senior who also go hurt and had surgery. My info had come directly from Robin via discussions around the time it occurred. And, of course, my argument was correct.
I wonder how off base people like you even get through life. You now have shown that you have zero credibility on egriz, so at least that is good.
