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It’s time to move up to the FBS the Mountain West preferably.

5280Griz said:
With Idaho and MSU being the second and third best programs in the Big Sky it is obvious Montana is above the rest by a large margin.
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I'd personally like to see all 3 get invited into the MWC (Idaho should have beat SJSU and/or Wazzu) as full members and id like to see the Dakota States Football in the Conference, it would be awesome:

SJSU..........Hawaii
UNLV..........Nevada
UTEP..........NMSU
Wyo............Air Force
NIU.............Idaho
Montana.....MSU
*NDSU........*SDSU
**Davis.......**GCU

* = Football Only
** = Oly Only
 
What does moving "up" do for our program?
Give us the possibility of playing in some worthless shambles of a bowl game and take away the excitement of playoff football in WAGriz?
Ensure that we will never play for another national championship?
Drive up ticket prices farther?

What exactly does Montana football have to gain by this?


27K in the stadium last Saturday, you'll have 2700 if this team is playing in a dud ass conference and losing.


We have seen Idaho fail and come back with their tail tucked between their legs. They are better in football now, but I don't think their basketball program will ever be what it was in the 70s and 80s.

I am seeing it fail with Sam Houston State and I don't believe Kennesaw State is exactly healthy right now.

Dream of moving up, but be careful what you wish for.
 
Griz in Texas said:
What does moving "up" do for our program?
Give us the possibility of playing in some worthless shambles of a bowl game and take away the excitement of playoff football in WAGriz?
Ensure that we will never play for another national championship?
Drive up ticket prices farther?

What exactly does Montana football have to gain by this?


27K in the stadium last Saturday, you'll have 2700 if this team is playing in a dud ass conference and losing.


We have seen Idaho fail and come back with their tail tucked between their legs. They are better in football now, but I don't think their basketball program will ever be what it was in the 70s and 80s.

I am seeing it fail with Sam Houston State and I don't believe Kennesaw State is exactly healthy right now.

Dream of moving up, but be careful what you wish for.
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Not that I disagree with staying put for right now while the conference realignment stuff is going on at light speed, but... Idaho, Sam Houston and Kennesaw State are not remotely close to being in the same hemisphere of being prepared for playing at the FBS level. Montana would 100% see more success "IF" we were to move up compared to what Idaho, Sam Houston and Kennesaw experienced.
 
get'em_griz said:
Not that I disagree with staying put for right now while the conference realignment stuff is going on at light speed, but... Idaho, Sam Houston and Kennesaw State are not remotely close to being in the same hemisphere of being prepared for playing at the FBS level. Montana would 100% see more success "IF" we were to move up compared to what Idaho, Sam Houston and Kennesaw experienced.
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Okay, we play in the mecca and all that, we are great, I get it but look.

Sam Houston State is right in Texas A&M's back yard, University of Houston and Rice right down the road. It's Texas, so there's talent in every park, high school crowds nearly as big as our Saturday night gathering.

There are transfer players and talent abounding and they are failing at a campus that has grown from right where we are in population right now to over 30k in 15 years. There is a lot going on that is right in Huntsville, but the athletic program is not heading in the same direction and in a weak SLC, they wouldn't finish better than 4-4 and in the UAC they would be even worse off.

What you all are asking for essentially is joining up with a league we were in before the Big Sky formed. We didn't ever compete with those teams on a consistent basis, and nothing is going to change if we go back. Stop looking at Boise State and thinking of what could be. Boise State is the outlier in all of this, that isn't the norm for teams moving up, and they still aren't nationally significant because the P4 won't let that happen for one thing.

Gather together the list of teams and check it for yourself because you can't just say we would be different than the failures at Marshall, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Massachusetts and a ton of others. All those teams won I-AA titles and they aren't anywhere near more than the new dream of teams moving up, becoming BOWL ELIGIBLE to play in a bowl game nobody can remember. James Madison might be doing okay right now, but they will fade back into the pack just the same as soon as the new wears off.
 
Griz in Texas said:
Okay, we play in the mecca and all that, we are great, I get it but look.

Sam Houston State is right in Texas A&M's back yard, University of Houston and Rice right down the road. It's Texas, so there's talent in every park, high school crowds nearly as big as our Saturday night gathering.

There are transfer players and talent abounding and they are failing at a campus that has grown from right where we are in population right now to over 30k in 15 years. There is a lot going on that is right in Huntsville, but the athletic program is not heading in the same direction and in a weak SLC, they wouldn't finish better than 4-4 and in the UAC they would be even worse off.

What you all are asking for essentially is joining up with a league we were in before the Big Sky formed. We didn't ever compete with those teams on a consistent basis, and nothing is going to change if we go back. Stop looking at Boise State and thinking of what could be. Boise State is the outlier in all of this, that isn't the norm for teams moving up, and they still aren't nationally significant because the P4 won't let that happen for one thing.

Gather together the list of teams and check it for yourself because you can't just say we would be different than the failures at Marshall, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Massachusetts and a ton of others. All those teams won I-AA titles and they aren't anywhere near more than the new dream of teams moving up, becoming BOWL ELIGIBLE to play in a bowl game nobody can remember. James Madison might be doing okay right now, but they will fade back into the pack just the same as soon as the new wears off.
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The Griz transfers are coming now because they want to play on a good team that has a chance to go to the national championship.
 
Ut-Grizfan said:
I'd personally like to see all 3 get invited into the MWC (Idaho should have beat SJSU and/or Wazzu) as full members and id like to see the Dakota States Football in the Conference, it would be awesome:

SJSU..........Hawaii
UNLV..........Nevada
UTEP..........NMSU
Wyo............Air Force
NIU.............Idaho
Montana.....MSU
*NDSU........*SDSU
**Davis.......**GCU

* = Football Only
** = Oly Only
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Yay...no.

The Grizzlies don't need to move up into yet another Imposter FBS conference like the MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA, PAC 12. The MWC is borderline the best of the borderline garbage G5 conferences anyway.

If the teams don't play in the Big 10, SEC, or ACC, maybe the Big 12, they don't belong in the FBS. I used to scream for UM to move up, but with the portal, we have a chance to compete for a NC every year without having to compete against Oil bought players from NDSU or state government funded teams like SDSU because you gubner went there.
 
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