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Big Sky Refs among best in FCS... (Don't shoot the messenger)

SACCAT66 said:
www.montanasports.com

Big Sky football officials, graded among best in FCS, adjust to tweaks for upcoming season

Football officials participated in presentations, seminars and exercises during a two-day meeting at the Big Sky Kickoff as part of their offseason training.
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Officials at all levels work hard. And they usually do get calls right. Especiallly with replay. Officials are instructed by their governing body (NFHS , NCAA and NFL) what are going to be the "points of emphasis" for the season. Many of these are safety related. The coaches are updated on these points far in advance of the season. Officials on the whole try to be consistent in enforcing these. They don't make the rules but they get the heat for what are often vague or poorly written rule changes. All football officials at all three levels are not full time (even NFL which I think is crazy) and they spend a lot time (non paid) learning, studying and trying to correct things. If you watch a game and don't talk about officials then they did a great job. If you watch a game and complain about one or two plays out of 180 the they probably still did a great job.
 
UncleRico said:
Officials at all levels work hard. And they usually do get calls right. Especiallly with replay. Officials are instructed by their governing body (NFHS , NCAA and NFL) what are going to be the "points of emphasis" for the season. Many of these are safety related. The coaches are updated on these points far in advance of the season. Officials on the whole try to be consistent in enforcing these. They don't make the rules but they get the heat for what are often vague or poorly written rule changes. All football officials at all three levels are not full time (even NFL which I think is crazy) and they spend a lot time (non paid) learning, studying and trying to correct things. If you watch a game and don't talk about officials then they did a great job. If you watch a game and complain about one or two plays out of 180 the they probably still did a great job.
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I agree but it's always the really bad boneheaded ones that we remember.
 
IMO, if coaches and players are questioning a call, it should be looked at and reviewed just to ensure it was the correct call or no call. I can't understand why a play can't be reviewed if replay is available? Just get it right that is the bottom line.
 
reinell30 said:
IMO, if coaches and players are questioning a call, it should be looked at and reviewed just to ensure it was the correct call or no call. I can't understand why a play can't be reviewed if replay is available? Just get it right that is the bottom line.
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Yeah I've never understood why some calls still aren't reviewable, even with the advent of replay. When everyone has already seen the replay and knows that a call was wrong, it should be reviewed and be able to be overturned. Back in the old days it was a different story, no one had cameras and we had to just depend on the officials eyesight and judgment. Things are different now, but I also think they don't want to let "less consequential" calls be reviewable because then it tends to lengthen the game and we all know that the goal is to shorten the game as much as possible.

At the same time, as much as we do like to complain about the officiating, it does tend to even out over the course of a game. Usually bad calls go both ways.
 
reinell30 said:
IMO, if coaches and players are questioning a call, it should be looked at and reviewed just to ensure it was the correct call or no call. I can't understand why a play can't be reviewed if replay is available? Just get it right that is the bottom line.
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I think it needs to be limited, and quite frankly there is probably only a play or two per game max. If they would incorporate an actual challenge system or similar, it would be sufficient.
 
UncleRico said:
Officials at all levels work hard. And they usually do get calls right. Especiallly with replay. Officials are instructed by their governing body (NFHS , NCAA and NFL) what are going to be the "points of emphasis" for the season. Many of these are safety related. The coaches are updated on these points far in advance of the season. Officials on the whole try to be consistent in enforcing these. They don't make the rules but they get the heat for what are often vague or poorly written rule changes. All football officials at all three levels are not full time (even NFL which I think is crazy) and they spend a lot time (non paid) learning, studying and trying to correct things. If you watch a game and don't talk about officials then they did a great job. If you watch a game and complain about one or two plays out of 180 the they probably still did a great job.
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While they aren't full time employees for tax and employment purposes, they are paid very well now and wouldn't necessarily need another job in any way. The pay range is from $100,000 to $200,000 per year now. They are missing out on benefits like healthcare and retirement.

Edit -- NFL refs. Sorry!
 
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ElrodGrizzly said:
While they aren't full time employees for tax and employment purposes, they are paid very well now and wouldn't necessarily need another job in any way. The pay range is from $100,000 to $200,000 per year now. They are missing out on benefits like healthcare and retirement.
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Yeah that's a lot more money than that article made it sound like they make. That's awfully good for a supposedly "part-time" income
 
ElrodGrizzly said:
While they aren't full time employees for tax and employment purposes, they are paid very well now and wouldn't necessarily need another job in any way. The pay range is from $100,000 to $200,000 per year now. They are missing out on benefits like healthcare and retirement.
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NFL right? Not Big Sky
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
I think it needs to be limited, and quite frankly there is probably only a play or two per game max. If they would incorporate an actual challenge system or similar, it would be sufficient.
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(y)Challenge system with TO penalty similar to the NFL would work IMO. Unchecked reviews based on player or coach's questioning the call would do nothing more than ruin the flow of the game for both the players and the fans!
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
I agree but it's always the really bad boneheaded ones that we remember.
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Like the one where Nguyen backed out of the end zone on a kickoff and they called a safety when the rules were clear this was a touchback and all we got was an apology when it ended up costing the game. Clearly, that crew showed after huddling up and stated the call would stand that they didn't know the rules.

“We're going to make mistakes, everyone knows that. The goal for me and the staff is to make sure they don't make the same mistake over and over again,”
Well, at least they haven't done it again since, but they might have had to change the rules on kickoffs to get it that way.

I agree, most of the calls are right on the field, but it seems like there are a lot more mistakes since replay came in and that they count on it too much to correct things that they should stop. If someone breaks a leg on that play, you can't fix it after the review and get them back in the game. Replay takes way too long too often and then there are the reviews that cannot happen because replay doesn't cover it.
It gets confusing and annoying.
 
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I've been working with Weber's game administration for over 45 years now. I meet with the officials before every home game. I've never met one that I didn't like and respect. I've also been an official for a few different sports. I never have called a perfect game and the majority of the officials I've met would say the same thing. They work hard to get it right and support all of the players and coaches in that effort. I have the upmost respect for what they do. I feel that the players and coaches do as well.
 
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