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Sac State's FBS Waiver is likely denied

The problem though is we lack the numbers in other sports. They’ll have to add another team just to support the other sports. Which means we’ll be staying at 12 teams.
We had 8-9 full members for 16 years in the 90's and 2000's, what's different now? (genuinely asking, I don't see what would be any different in my scenario)

If we lose Sac and kick the football only members, it's the exact same conference we had from 2006-2012 except with Idaho instead of Sac, no?
 
We had 8-9 full members for 16 years in the 90's and 2000's, what's different now? (genuinely asking, I don't see what would be any different in my scenario)

If we lose Sac and kick the football only members, it's the exact same conference we had from 2006-2012 except with Idaho instead of Sac, no?

Only thing I think might be an issue is scheduling problems potentially? But even then having only 9 fill time members does make me a bit uneasy as realignment shenanigans are something everyone has to take into account now.

Losing Sac and Davis I think we'd have to add 1 full time school bare minimum, but it's pretty slim pickings so we're pretty much limited to the Utah Schools.

Maybe the Big Sky should look at adding a team without Football to assist with Oly Sports (preferably a good Basketball school) but they'd have to change the Conference Bylaws.
 
Good riddance. It would take farrrrrr more than 17 cameras for me to care about sac leaving the bsc.

But honestly no matter how they spin it, I'm quite sure it was not their decision. I'm guessing the presidents of the bsc told them to shove a stinger right up their asses while showing them the door.

What a dumpster fire. Why is every bsc team other than MONTANA a complete fucking embarrassment?
 
Only thing I think might be an issue is scheduling problems potentially? But even then having only 9 fill time members does make me a bit uneasy as realignment shenanigans are something everyone has to take into account now.

Losing Sac and Davis I think we'd have to add 1 full time school bare minimum, but it's pretty slim pickings so we're pretty much limited to the Utah Schools.

Maybe the Big Sky should look at adding a team without Football to assist with Oly Sports (preferably a good Basketball school) but they'd have to change the Conference Bylaws.
Did we have horrible scheduling problems in the 90's and 2000's for the other sports, and I just forgot about it?

Like I genuinely don't get the panic there when we'd be doing exactly what we did again after Boise and Idaho left in 1996.

It would be 9 fulltime members: UM, MSU, UI, ISU, WSU, EWU, UNC, PSU, NAU

We also had:
9 fulltime members from '96-'01 (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, CSN, PSU, NAU)
8 fulltime members from '01-'06 (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, PSU, NAU)
9 fulltime members from '06-'12, then the expansion went crazy (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, PSU, NAU, UNC)

Davis is football only, so I don't see what them leaving would do to force us to need another full time school.
 
Did we have horrible scheduling problems in the 90's and 2000's for the other sports, and I just forgot about it?

Like I genuinely don't get the panic there when we'd be doing exactly what we did again after Boise and Idaho left in 1996.

It would be 9 fulltime members: UM, MSU, UI, ISU, WSU, EWU, UNC, PSU, NAU

We also had:
9 fulltime members from '96-'01 (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, CSN, PSU, NAU)
8 fulltime members from '01-'06 (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, PSU, NAU)
9 fulltime members from '06-'12, then the expansion went crazy (UM, MSU, SAC, ISU, WSU, EWU, PSU, NAU, UNC)

Davis is football only, so I don't see what them leaving would do to force us to need another full time school.
The problem is the regular season is longer in Basketball. Currently it’s 31 games and there’s talks of expanding it to 33 come the 26-27 season. If there’s only 9 teams that means you’d only be able to play 16 conference games meaning you’d have to schedule 15 non-conference games and 18 if they expand the season. That’s an absolute scheduling nightmare for any mid major school, especially out west. Not to mention Tennis will only have 7 teams, Soccer will only have 8, and Softball will only have 5 which is below the NCAA requirement for an auto bid to the tourney. Like it or not, they have to add another team. We don’t have the numbers in other sports. Plus having an odd number of teams isn't optimal for building a conference schedule any way.
 
The problem is the regular season is longer in Basketball. Currently it’s 31 games and there’s talks of expanding it to 33 come the 26-27 season. If there’s only 9 teams that means you’d only be able to play 16 conference games meaning you’d have to schedule 15 non-conference games and 18 if they expand the season. That’s an absolute scheduling nightmare for any mid major school, especially out west. Not to mention Tennis will only have 7 teams, Soccer will only have 8, and Softball will only have 5 which is below the NCAA requirement for an auto bid to the tourney. Like it or not, they have to add another team. We don’t have the numbers in other sports. Plus having an odd number of teams isn't optimal for building a conference schedule any way.

Changing times call for adapting and overcoming and despite past history with SUU we may see both them and UT-Tech in the Conference wether we like it or not. Would give us 11 total schools which takes care of 20 of our Basketball games and a much more manageable 13 OOC schedule.

12 teams for Football hasn't been exactly ideal but hasn't been awful either, maintaining that for other sports is worth it and a trip to St. George potentially once a year wouldn't be so bad.
 
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The problem is the regular season is longer in Basketball. Currently it’s 31 games and there’s talks of expanding it to 33 come the 26-27 season. If there’s only 9 teams that means you’d only be able to play 16 conference games meaning you’d have to schedule 15 non-conference games and 18 if they expand the season. That’s an absolute scheduling nightmare for any mid major school, especially out west. Not to mention Tennis will only have 7 teams, Soccer will only have 8, and Softball will only have 5 which is below the NCAA requirement for an auto bid to the tourney. Like it or not, they have to add another team. We don’t have the numbers in other sports. Plus having an odd number of teams isn't optimal for building a conference schedule any way.
Fair enough, sounds like there's nothing we can do to avoid a shitty mess of a football conference.

Not sure about your last sentence, though.

We play 8 conference games in football every year. 9 teams is the perfect number.
 
Fair enough, sounds like there's nothing we can do to avoid a shitty mess of a football conference.

Not sure about your last sentence, though.

We play 8 conference games in football every year. 9 teams is the perfect number.
Football’s not the issue, it’s every other sport. My dream scenario would be for the Big Sky to add a non-Football playing school to fix all the other sports while we dwindle the number down in Football. That’s unfortunately not gonna happen though.
 
Changing times call for adapting and overcoming and despite past history with SUU we may see both them and UT-Tech in the Conference wether we like it or not. Would give us 11 total schools which takes care of 20 of our Basketball games and a much more manageable 13 OOC schedule.

12 teams for Football hasn't been exactly ideal but hasn't been awful either, maintaining that for other sports is worth it and a trip to St. George potentially once a year wouldn't be so bad.
I won’t be surprised if they add Utah Tech. SUU though is in a really tough spot right now as they fired their AD today, they’re wrapped up in a scandal with the NCAA, and their withdrawal from the Big Sky wasn’t very graceful. I think they need to inquire to San Diego. That’d be a great add if they wanna start taking Football seriously.
 
I won’t be surprised if they add Utah Tech. SUU though is in a really tough spot right now as they fired their AD today, they’re wrapped up in a scandal with the NCAA, and their withdrawal from the Big Sky wasn’t very graceful. I think they need to inquire to San Diego. That’d be a great add if they wanna start taking Football seriously.
I would take Utah Tech over SUU any day of the week. It's not just about Football and Basketball, The other sports need to line up as well. Losing Shaq St, leaves us one short in Softball and UT or SD would help in that regard. St George is a growing, thriving comunity with a good airport. San Diego has everything all ready established. I'm sure that there are some other good candidates as well. The BSC is not hurt by Shaq's leaving and may be stronger in the longer run. SUU is a shrinking community and school, probably headed to D11 real soon.
 
I would take Utah Tech over SUU any day of the week. It's not just about Football and Basketball, The other sports need to line up as well. Losing Shaq St, leaves us one short in Softball and UT or SD would help in that regard. St George is a growing, thriving comunity with a good airport. San Diego has everything all ready established. I'm sure that there are some other good candidates as well. The BSC is not hurt by Shaq's leaving and may be stronger in the longer run. SUU is a shrinking community and school, probably headed to D11 real soon.
That's a really good question...who are the other good candidates? San Diego sounds ideal, Utah schools?
 
Sac State is denied FBS access, and is officially leaving the Big Sky, effective July 1, 2026.

Apparently they have the funding to pay the conference exit fee (maybe there isn't one - I don't recall), but not enough funding to get the proper number of camera's for doing replay when broadcasting football games.

Good riddance - I'm sure our massive number of viewers from the Sacramento metro area will really impact the Big Sigh's viewership numbers.

Good job, good effort. * slow clap *
 
Apparently they have the funding to pay the conference exit fee (maybe there isn't one - I don't recall), but not enough funding to get the proper number of camera's for doing replay when broadcasting football games.

Good riddance - I'm sure our massive number of viewers from the Sacramento metro area will really impact the Big Sigh's viewership numbers.

Good job, good effort. * slow clap *
It was recently raised to $1,000,000. One school voted against raising it. It is an anonymous vote, but I have a strong guess on who may have not wanted it to go up. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Apparently they have the funding to pay the conference exit fee (maybe there isn't one - I don't recall), but not enough funding to get the proper number of camera's for doing replay when broadcasting football games.

Good riddance - I'm sure our massive number of viewers from the Sacramento metro area will really impact the Big Sigh's viewership numbers.

Good job, good effort. * slow clap "
"Ignore that man behind the curtain!"
 
Football’s not the issue, it’s every other sport. My dream scenario would be for the Big Sky to add a non-Football playing school to fix all the other sports while we dwindle the number down in Football. That’s unfortunately not gonna happen though.
Could SUU and Dixie state be basketball only members? I understand it doesn't happen often, but it would be far better for SUU and Dixie State to stay in the WAC / Big West / Whatever in football and would solve the basketball games issue.
 
Could SUU and Dixie state be basketball only members? I understand it doesn't happen often, but it would be far better for SUU and Dixie State to stay in the WAC / Big West / Whatever in football and would solve the basketball games issue.
No. If they join the Big Sky, they're gonna want in for everything. And if I'm the Big Sky, I'm only taking Utah Tech. SUU can go pound sand.
 
No. If they join the Big Sky, they're gonna want in for everything. And if I'm the Big Sky, I'm only taking Utah Tech. SUU can go pound sand.
If I'm the big sky, I'm not taking either team. What about basketball? Wellllllll since every team makes the Big Sky tourney and they don't double-bye the 1 & 2 seeds straight to the semis, the bajillion game conference season doesn't really matter all that much. You don't need to play 20 games (or more?) of conference basketball to determine seeding. They did it before they started playing the number of games they had, they can do it again.
 
If I'm the big sky, I'm not taking either team. What about basketball? Wellllllll since every team makes the Big Sky tourney and they don't double-bye the 1 & 2 seeds straight to the semis, the bajillion game conference season doesn't really matter all that much. You don't need to play 20 games (or more?) of conference basketball to determine seeding. They did it before they started playing the number of games they had, they can do it again.
My first call would be San Diego. And trust me, you're gonna want at least 18 conference games in Basketball. They have no choice. They need to add at least one team as much as people may not like it.
 
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