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After seeing posts on Thomas and Oke, I thought it would be interesting to check in on former Griz. I also grouped them according to how competitive I think their country/divisions are.



Very High Level
Karl Nicholas (G League Cavs)
Cam Parker (G League Warriors)



High Level
Josh Bannan - Australia
Fabijan Krslovic Australia
Martin Bruenig - Germany (1st Division)



Medium High
Sayeed Pridgett - Romania
Michael Oguine - France (2nd Division)



Medium
Ahmaad Rorie - Argentina
Dischon Thomas - Argentina
Kelby Kramer Argentina



Low
Aanen Moody - Spain (2nd Division)



Really Low
Jonathan Brown - Ireland
Will Cherry - Egypt
Keron DeShields - Saudi Arabia
Lars Espe -Norway
Laolu Oke - Norway


College
Caden Bateman (Whitworth - D3)
Robby Beasley (San Fran - D1)
Eddy Egun (Regis - D2)
Blake Jones (CS-Monterrey -D2)
Isiah Kerr (Chico St - D2)
Trey Lawrence (Our Lady of the Lake - NAIA)
Jaxon Nap (Seattle Pac. - D2)
Rhett Reynolds (Montana Tech - NAIA)
John Solomon (CS- Dominguez -D2)
Jack Wetzel - (William Woods - NAIA)
Giordan Williams (CS - San Bernardino - D2)



Eligibility left but out of basketball
Johnny Braggs
Dorrell Thomas
 
GrizWin99 said:
Vazquez- Puerto Rico
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In many leagues, being a draft pick does not guarantee a spot. For example, my guess is that less than half of the GLeague draft make teams.

Also, from what I can tell, his last basketball game was last March with the Griz. Puerto Rico generally starts in April, so he would have gone a full year without playing an organized basketball game.

Puerto Rico is also a popular destination for players coming back from Europe because the end of most European schedules correspond with the beginning of Puerto Rico’s season. A team there just signed JaVale McGee and Danilo Galinari, so it is a pretty competitive league.

So unless Josh has some Puerto Rican in his bloodline (which would be an advantage be because I assume he would count as a donestic player), it’s not a given he makes the team.

I hope to have him on the list the next time I do this!
 
GrizBall said:
In many leagues, being a draft pick does not guarantee a spot. For example, my guess is that less than half of the GLeague draft make teams.

Also, from what I can tell, his last basketball game was last March with the Griz. Puerto Rico generally starts in April, so he would have gone a full year without playing an organized basketball game.

Puerto Rico is also a popular destination for players coming back from Europe because the end of most European schedules correspond with the beginning of Puerto Rico’s season. A team there just signed JaVale McGee and Danilo Galinari, so it is a pretty competitive league.

So unless Josh has some Puerto Rican in his bloodline (which would be an advantage be because I assume he would count as a donestic player), it’s not a given he makes the team.

I hope to have him on the list the next time I do this!
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That’s fair. He is Puerto Rican, but I don’t know the specifics.
 
This is really cool. Thanks for compiling.

One thing to note, when you look at teams compared to their domestic leagues & level of play, experiences can be vastly different. There's no salary caps so the budget of your top teams will be much higher than teams towards the bottom.

For example, when you look at Sayeed's team, they're 17-1 in they're domestic league and also play in Fiba Cup, a league of top teams throughout Europe (4th best European league after Euro league, Euro Cup, and Champions league). His experience (and pay) will be a lot different than teams towards the bottom of the league who only play in their domestic league.

Also, for teams in the 2nd division, its important to look at the overall strength of their country's top league. Moody is playing in Spain's 2nd league, but their first league is probably the best domestic league in Europe. They have 3 teams playing in Euro league and 4 in Champions League. Spain has much lower dependence on foreign players because their national level of play is really strong.

Will and Keron have had great pro careers and are in leagues that aren't the most competitive but pay really well. Their experiences will be a lot different than Jonathan's...Ireland is one of the weakest leagues in Europe but is basically an entry level job for a rookie.
 
LittleBear said:
This is really cool. Thanks for compiling.

One thing to note, when you look at teams compared to their domestic leagues & level of play, experiences can be vastly different. There's no salary caps so the budget of your top teams will be much higher than teams towards the bottom.

For example, when you look at Sayeed's team, they're 17-1 in they're domestic league and also play in Fiba Cup, a league of top teams throughout Europe (4th best European league after Euro league, Euro Cup, and Champions league). His experience (and pay) will be a lot different than teams towards the bottom of the league who only play in their domestic league.

Also, for teams in the 2nd division, its important to look at the overall strength of their country's top league. Moody is playing in Spain's 2nd league, but their first league is probably the best domestic league in Europe. They have 3 teams playing in Euro league and 4 in Champions League. Spain has much lower dependence on foreign players because their national level of play is really strong.

Will and Keron have had great pro careers and are in leagues that aren't the most competitive but pay really well. Their experiences will be a lot different than Jonathan's...Ireland is one of the weakest leagues in Europe but is basically an entry level job for a rookie.
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Great points and I agree with almost all. I will respectfully disagree with the quality of 2nd division Spain, while also acknowledging I could have rated it slightly higher.

I agree 1st division Spain is Europe’s best domestic league, however I think there are a number of domestic 2nd divisions better than Spain (i.e., Italy, Turkey and France) and some just as good (i.e., Germany). Also, I believe some other lesser known 1st divisions like Poland, Lithuania, and Romania are better as well.
 
GrizBall said:
Great points and I agree with almost all. I will respectfully disagree with the quality of 2nd division Spain, while also acknowledging I could have rated it slightly higher.

I agree 1st division Spain is Europe’s best domestic league, however I think there are a number of domestic 2nd divisions better than Spain (i.e., Italy, Turkey and France) and some just as good (i.e., Germany). Also, I believe some other lesser known 1st divisions like Poland, Lithuania, and Romania are better as well.
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Great points. IMO it can be difficult to quantify which 2nd leagues are better than others being that they only play domestically. Really like how Euro leagues have top teams from lower leagues promote up to 1st league and bottom teams from higher divisions relegate down.

I generally tend to believe that countries who win more at a national team level have better players, teams, and leagues. But experiences can be so different from team to team.

100% agree that Poland, Lithuania, and Romania are much better than any 2nd league. Romania and Poland have teams playing in Eurocup and and Fibacup while Lithuania has Zalgiris playing in Euroleague.
 
LittleBear said:
Great points. IMO it can be difficult to quantify which 2nd leagues are better than others being that they only play domestically. Really like how Euro leagues have top teams from lower leagues promote up to 1st league and bottom teams from higher divisions relegate down.

I generally tend to believe that countries who win more at a national team level have better players, teams, and leagues. But experiences can be so different from team to team.

100% agree that Poland, Lithuania, and Romania are much better than any 2nd league. Romania and Poland have teams playing in Eurocup and and Fibacup while Lithuania has Zalgiris playing in Euroleague.
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Thanks. I Agree.

For reference the three Big Sky players I could find that play in 2nd Division Spain are Moody, Jalen Cone (NAU) and Brooks DeBischop (NAU).
 
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