5280Griz
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Not just money for himself but more money to get better assistant coaches and players. Potentially could move on from UNM to a blue blood but Montana State to an FBS blue blood program is too big of a jump.
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Mendenhal had $450K in incentives he could earn on his contract. Some of those are pretty unrealistic, but saying "Vigen could at worst double his best case salary from MSU, but because the incentives constitute more of his salary here, he'd stay a bobcat" seems like a bunch of nonsense.
I could see him staying, but probably only because either he loses the job to Eck, or he thinks he should get a shot at a bigger school that pays more.
It’s just an easy way to try and come back at a criticism that you don’t want to hear.
Seems like it's pretty effective and never wrong! lol
It always amazes me how many people think if a coach takes a better job, he only cares about money. If you can max out at 600k in one second (really third) tier job, and your floor is 1.2 million at another job at the next level, you should take the second one for reasons more than money. Much more realistic to get a major conference FBS job if you're already a HC in the FBS. Plus, coaches and their families are used to moving.
Chip Kelly, Jim Tressel, and Chris Klieman showed it can be done, but for every one of them there's probably ten who made the leap and never lived up to the success that was expected.
I think the notion that FCS can't make the leap to big time FBS without something in the middle is nonsense when you look at big time FBS names who got the skipper gig and weren't successful. Brian Kelly, Brian Harsin, Lincoln Riley, etc.
oldngrizzly
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Oh for you it's a sense of humor but for me it's racist. Sure I can see that. NOT! Your name fits you URASS
mthoopsfan
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I suggested UNM for Vigen, because I thought it was a crappy job he might be qualified for.
I think the point is more that FCS HC isn't a dream job for very many HCs, and it's easier to get to the tippy top of CFB coaching when you are proven at the FBS level. Citing three counterexamples doesn't do much disprove the premise. I think we like to believe that "Coach X loves it here" is enough to keep coaches around. I don't believe that's true in most cases. Lastly, what coach has ever said to fans, boosters, players, parents, or the administration, that he dislikes the area while he's on payroll? Guessing it's a pretty short list.
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It’s disappointing coming from someone who otherwise is interesting to interact with.
If you don't like pushback on your trolling, don't troll in the first place.
MontanaBornFan
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I think it's actually pretty rare, especially at the FCS level.
The Stiegelmeiers of the world are few and far between.
Maybe that's how Bobby feels now though?
Please try again. It makes it incredibly difficult to create a response that makes an ass out of you when your own response does such an effective job of that.
oldngrizzly
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Ok let try this. You think you are being funny, but in reality you are just another douchebag. I am sure you can relate to that one better.
Yep, still nothing. Keep trying
mthoopsfan
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One of you is a douchebag, and it isn't Ursa.
oldngrizzly
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Well who knew you would say that? HA
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It’s not only about the money. Ive been to the UNM and it’s really at the end of the road. In my opinion i would not care to live there but different strokes for different folks. But like i said it’s not always about the money. Other factors come into play such as facilities, national exposure, administration willingness/ commitment to fund the program, recruiting budget, student and local support etc, etc, etc.
in contrast to the UofM, where football is king, UNM is more of a basketball school (the PIT).
Vigen is still pretty young, under 50 i think. His son has a scholarship to MSU and i think another son coming up? But probably almost as important as all the above factors is whats in the pipeline for next years team? It does appear that the cats have an excellent recruiting class coming in? No question the cat supporters and students are committed.
Even if UNM were to offer big incentives and even if he’s on the short list i’d be very surprised he’d make the move. I think he passes until a better offer comes along.
in contrast to the UofM, where football is king, UNM is more of a basketball school (the PIT).
Vigen is still pretty young, under 50 i think. His son has a scholarship to MSU and i think another son coming up? But probably almost as important as all the above factors is whats in the pipeline for next years team? It does appear that the cats have an excellent recruiting class coming in? No question the cat supporters and students are committed.
Even if UNM were to offer big incentives and even if he’s on the short list i’d be very surprised he’d make the move. I think he passes until a better offer comes along.
The really crazy thing too is New Mexico's new AD just started his job on Sunday. He's been there less than a week and he will already be called upon to make a change at the most important position in the department.
