• Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts access private forums and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!

Good, Bad, Ugly - UNC

poorgriz said:
It does? So head to head is head to head, and it makes no difference that the Cats have to travel to UCD whereas the griz get to play them in Washington griz?
Click to expand...
Well in his context yes. Teams evolve over the season. Some get way better and others get beat up by injuries. So I’ve never thought about it much because I think comparing games is far from exact anyways. But if you were going to compare common opponents, it would tend to make sense to find one that you both played around the same time.

Like I said I’m not one to get into the comparing of opponents too much. So much can change week to week. But I get what he’s saying.
 
ilovethecats said:
Well in his context yes. Teams evolve over the season. Some get way better and others get beat up by injuries. So I’ve never thought about it much because I think comparing games is far from exact anyways. But if you were going to compare common opponents, it would tend to make sense to find one that you both played around the same time.

Like I said I’m not one to get into the comparing of opponents too much. So much can change week to week. But I get what he’s saying.
Click to expand...
You guys nearly lost to EWU in '22, the same EWU team we pasted by like 50 points.

Then you steamrolled us.

Football is all about matchups and timing, so I've never really put much thought into transitive property between teams. Just look at the Griz-Weber-UNC debacle.

That said, I'd put a lot more stock in comparing games against the teams we both play than people seem to want to do comparing teams we don't.
 
uofmman1122 said:
You guys nearly lost to EWU in '22, the same EWU team we pasted by like 50 points.

Then you steamrolled us.

Football is all about matchups and timing, so I've never really put much thought into transitive property between teams. Just look at the Griz-Weber-UNC debacle.

That said, I'd put a lot more stock in comparing games against the teams we both play than people seem to want to do comparing teams we don't.
Click to expand...
Totally agree. And your example is kind of perfect in showing that PG and Hoops are both kind of right. We played EWU our first conference game of the season on that stupid red field and lost our QB in the second quarter. With a blow to the head while sliding I'll add..... We barely beat them by 3.

You guys got them the week before the Brawl, basically fighting for your playoff lives after losing 3 of your last 4. And you got them in the toughest place to play in the FCS. So I DO think that homefield matters when comparing games, but to Hoops point, and one I didn't think about much, the time you play common opponents is also important to consider when comparing common opponents. Cats were a much better team when we played the Griz than when we played EWU.

But to your point, this game is all about timing, momentum and matchups so I truly never put too much stock into the common opponent thing. Fun for us fans to talk about but there is way more in the bigger picture. But I think they both are correct in their points. EWU is a decent comparison simply because we both have to travel there opposed to one getting them at home. But hoops is right that you guys played them early and you've likely evolved, and we get them later in the year which always helps.

In regards to Davis, it is a good comparison because we both play them so close to one another, but we shouldn't ignore that it is a different animal going on the road versus getting them to come to your place with an electric atmosphere.
 
uofmman1122 said:
You guys nearly lost to EWU in '22, the same EWU team we pasted by like 50 points.

Then you steamrolled us.

Football is all about matchups and timing, so I've never really put much thought into transitive property between teams. Just look at the Griz-Weber-UNC debacle.

That said, I'd put a lot more stock in comparing games against the teams we both play than people seem to want to do comparing teams we don't.
Click to expand...
Like trying to decide whether Morehead State or Mercyhurt was worse.
 
ilovethecats said:
Totally agree. And your example is kind of perfect in showing that PG and Hoops are both kind of right. We played EWU our first conference game of the season on that stupid red field and lost our QB in the second quarter. With a blow to the head while sliding I'll add..... We barely beat them by 3.

You guys got them the week before the Brawl, basically fighting for your playoff lives after losing 3 of your last 4. And you got them in the toughest place to play in the FCS. So I DO think that homefield matters when comparing games, but to Hoops point, and one I didn't think about much, the time you play common opponents is also important to consider when comparing common opponents. Cats were a much better team when we played the Griz than when we played EWU.

But to your point, this game is all about timing, momentum and matchups so I truly never put too much stock into the common opponent thing. Fun for us fans to talk about but there is way more in the bigger picture. But I think they both are correct in their points. EWU is a decent comparison simply because we both have to travel there opposed to one getting them at home. But hoops is right that you guys played them early and you've likely evolved, and we get them later in the year which always helps.

In regards to Davis, it is a good comparison because we both play them so close to one another, but we shouldn't ignore that it is a different animal going on the road versus getting them to come to your place with an electric atmosphere.
Click to expand...
Are you suggesting it won't be electric in Davis for y'all?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Back
Top