Whichever room has the more productive offensive line. It can vary from one week to the other.
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You probably don't follow the Cats enough to understand, but Brint agrees and he is right. Gilman is probably the best overall back at this point but the Cats have a better quality RB group overall.
How much credit do you give to the offensive line vs the talent in the RB room for the RB production at MSU over the last few years? Personally, I was giving more credit to the line than the RBs, but I also only watch like 3 Cats games a year, so I know that I'm pretty uninformed.
I'm not trying to troll you, I'm being genuine in asking.
garizzalies
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Aren’t at least two of those guys hurt, and missing multiple games now? And most of the others prone to injury? Your RB room looks more like a M.A.S.H. unit than our stable of beasts.
To assume I follow the Cats at all would be erroneous. All four of our top running backs would be the starters in Bozeman but none of them were dumb enough to get anywhere near that dumpster fire of a program. Last weekend was probably the high water mark for the Bobcats season.
garizzalies
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Are you nutz? “right now”?
You’re gonna have to explain yourself.
One of their guys has not played since last year’s Brawl. Another dude is now out indefinitely. The other is a freshman with only 3 games under his belt.
Meanwhile, everyone agrees Gilman, last years freshman of the year, is undoubtedly the best; Otsmo is breaking records as one of the best The Griz have ever had—he’s a total Ironman; Rocker is a dropdown probably better than any 3rd stringer all fcs; and Fonoti just posted the greatest half in Griz history as a true freshman
Are you nutz? “right now”?
You’re gonna have to explain yourself.
One of their guys has not played since last year’s Brawl. Another dude is now out indefinitely. The other is a freshman with only 3 games under his belt.
Meanwhile, everyone agrees Gilman, last years freshman of the year, is undoubtedly the best; Otsmo is breaking records as one of the best The Griz have ever had—he’s a total Ironman; Rocker is a dropdown probably better than any 3rd stringer all fcs; and Fonoti just posted the greatest half in Griz history as a true freshman
Like I said, I think Gillman is the best of all of them - but if we're talking RB rooms one could counter that the Grizzlies RBs have the best individual guy in Gillman, there's no doubt about that in my opinion.
Ostmo - just eclipsed 2000 yards, has been here since 2018, injured a lot, Gillman could/should move over 2000 yards as well this season. I love Nick as a selfless player and team first guy, he's joining some elite ranks in terms of rushing #'s but he's also been at it for much longer than most.
Rocker Jr - I like him a lot, we've only seen him with some meaningful reps in a garbage time game.
Fonoti - Had a phenomenal quarter of football against a totally trash team.
When you move beyond Gillman you can counter-argue against the rest of the room as well.
A lot. the Bobcat OL is phenomenal. have played most of the season missing two starters and because of that, other players playing out of position, yet still dominating everyone in the run game. Getting some of the OL players back starting this weekend. I'm guessing the Cats will have the best, or close to the best rushing attack in the nation, again. That said, the backs are really, really good. Our best RB hasn't even seen the field this year, and as I pointed out earlier, one of our best backs from 3 or four years ago, right behind Ifanse, is now 4th or 5th string because of how good our players are in that room. Missoula kid Adam Jones has been the biggest surprise. The 93 yard TD run vs UNM was a thing of beauty. I had no idea he had that breakaway speed. Then if you watch that last drive he was all over the place, running hard, breaking tackles, catching passes, blocking, impromptu heads up plays, etc.
Meh. I'm not trading straight up.
Bubs sure seem to have a whole lot of "phenomenal" players for a team who lost 4 games and well, 37-7
garizzalies
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So you would trade our RB room for theirs? Not assuming when they are all healthy, you said “right now”.
And you are using bubcat logic: “if you take out the best RB, then the bubz are the best” WTF?
Let’s hear your “counter-argument against the rest of the room”
And Ostmo has not been “injured a lot”. That’s crap too. Compared to the bub RB room, he’s a god damned Ironman beast
oldngrizzly
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You dudes & mom can thank me for always picking up on the details to stimulate a lively discussion.
Are you talking about last year? Different team. Pretty sure the Cats are undefeated, unlike the griz. Do you think the Cat will lose 4 game this year?
Well, according to bub fans they had a whole shit ton o' phenomenal players last year as well, so I'm not really sure it matters.
I just find it ironic when a fan of a team who wasn't anywhere near the GRIZ level comes on here and pounds their chest about how much better they are.
Do I think the bubs are better than the GRIZ this year? No, no I do not, but obviously that's to be determined. Do I think the bubs lose 4 games this year? Well, with that weakass schedule if they do, everyone from Waded on down to Jimmy the Janitor should be fired.
Wait. Waded already was fired, so....
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So let’s recap:
1) As is tradition, the cat backups are better than the starters.
2) Players that are playing out of position are better than the starters
3) Players that haven’t suited out or played in the first 1/4 of the season are better than the starters.
Yes; Idaho, EWU, GRIZ by 30+, and whomever they play in their first playoff game when they are unseeded and get in only to lose to Our Sisters of Mercy School For Wayward Girls.
I don't think the Cats are losing four games this year, but we'll see. If they do, they sure as hell aren't losing to EWU, lol. It would also shock me if the Cats lost to the griz in Bozeman. Last couple games in Bozeman were absolutely brutal ass kickings where it didn't look like the griz belonged on the same field. What, 48-14 and then 55-21..... and in both of those games Vigen called off the dogs early or it would have been way worse. Cats could have scored 70 in each of those games. I don't think this year's game could possibly be that lopsided again, could it? If the Cats rush for over 400 yards again I guess it could get ugly but dang... you'd think Bobby out how to beat a good team on the road by now.
Vigen has lost every road game he's ever played to an actually good team and is 0-2 by a lot of points in Missoula, wtf are you talking about?
Grizzinator
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Beat Idaho and Davis on the road last year. What’d Bozeman do in Idaho last year again?
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