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This is what big NIL can get you: 0-2

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mthoopsfan

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"The Florida State Seminoles entered 2024 with expectations of an ACC Championship and a guaranteed College Football Playoff berth. Instead, they've started 0-2 with losses to Georgia Tech and Boston College. It's hard to be more disappointing than that…unless you also spent an extraordinary amount of money on name, image and likeness deals to build up a top-level roster before starting 0-2.

Bruce Feldman from The Athletic reported on Wednesday that FSU committed an incredible amount of money overall, and specifically to its defensive line. According to Feldman, the Seminoles spent $2 million to secure their "starting front," as part of a $12 million overall NIL budget."
 
I'm sure you're both familiar with the concept of a statistical outlier. Let's do an analysis of NIL money spent vs wins across all FBS schools over the past couple of years and see how it comes out. That would be something you could actually begin to draw preliminary conclusions from.
 
EverettGriz said:
Yep. You don't need to spend a shit ton to be successful at the fbs level.
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Which school that’s doing well doesn’t spend a shit ton?

All of the top schools collectives or whatever they call them are spending at minimum, $10 million on NIL.

What Florida State has struggled with is high school recruiting. Whether that’s evaluations, development, a combination, I don’t know, but their base is poor. Then they brought in a poor QB after losing out on Cam Ward, and they’re not doing so good. Miami just spent $15 million, and blew the doors off of Florida. The top teams have to use NIL money, or they’ll end up like Clemson.
 
1. Oregon has almost a billion in NIL. They were able to overcome Idaho last weekend.

247sports.com

College football's top 50 programs ranked by NIL efforts

Separating the haves and have nots across college football.
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2. "Ohio State head coach Ryan Day declared the Buckeyes needed $13 million annually to attract and retain top talent. Turns out the number is $20 million. Sources have confirmed to On3 and new athletic director Ross Bjork has spoken publicly about how Ohio State has spent $20 million on this year’s football roster.

They set the bar early in college football recruiting, signing five-star recruit Nico Iamaleava to a deal that could pay him $8 million by his junior year.

They set the bar early in college football recruiting, signing five-star recruit Nico Iamaleava to a deal that could pay him $8 million by his junior year.

The 502 Circle [Louisville] collective has one of the most robust budgets in the country – sources indicate it to be in the $20 million range for football and men’s basketball combined."

"Former New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick is helping out the Washington football NIL collective.

The Montlake Futures NIL collective announced Wednesday plans for “An Evening with Bill Belichick.” The six-time Super Bowl champion’s son, Stephen Belichick, is the current defensive coordinator for the Huskies. Belichick’s former assistant, Jedd Fisch, is Washington’s head coach, too.

Set for Friday, Oct. 4 at 6 p.m. and presented in partnership with Washington Athletics, Montlake Futures is charging $25,000 per plate. The event is scheduled the night before the Huskies host Michigan in Seattle."

www.on3.com

On3's top 15 NIL collectives in college sports

Donor-driven NIL collectives will make up 80% of all NIL dollars spent in college football this season. Here are On3’s rankings of the top 15 in college sports.
www.on3.com www.on3.com
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
The NFL has salary caps, are there currently any limits whatsoever to NIL? You would think there would have to be eventually.
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No. But schools (boosters) have been paying for players for a long, long, time. This isn’t anything new other than it’s legal now.
 
mthoopsfan said:
1. Oregon has almost a billion in NIL. They were able to overcome Idaho last weekend.

247sports.com

College football's top 50 programs ranked by NIL efforts

Separating the haves and have nots across college football.
247sports.com 247sports.com

2. "Ohio State head coach Ryan Day declared the Buckeyes needed $13 million annually to attract and retain top talent. Turns out the number is $20 million. Sources have confirmed to On3 and new athletic director Ross Bjork has spoken publicly about how Ohio State has spent $20 million on this year’s football roster.

They set the bar early in college football recruiting, signing five-star recruit Nico Iamaleava to a deal that could pay him $8 million by his junior year.

They set the bar early in college football recruiting, signing five-star recruit Nico Iamaleava to a deal that could pay him $8 million by his junior year.

The 502 Circle [Louisville] collective has one of the most robust budgets in the country – sources indicate it to be in the $20 million range for football and men’s basketball combined."

"Former New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick is helping out the Washington football NIL collective.

The Montlake Futures NIL collective announced Wednesday plans for “An Evening with Bill Belichick.” The six-time Super Bowl champion’s son, Stephen Belichick, is the current defensive coordinator for the Huskies. Belichick’s former assistant, Jedd Fisch, is Washington’s head coach, too.

Set for Friday, Oct. 4 at 6 p.m. and presented in partnership with Washington Athletics, Montlake Futures is charging $25,000 per plate. The event is scheduled the night before the Huskies host Michigan in Seattle."

www.on3.com

On3's top 15 NIL collectives in college sports

Donor-driven NIL collectives will make up 80% of all NIL dollars spent in college football this season. Here are On3’s rankings of the top 15 in college sports.
www.on3.com www.on3.com
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PTGrizzly said:
No. But schools (boosters) have been paying for players for a long, long, time. This isn’t anything new other than it’s legal now.
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Sure but the new anything goes strategy is certainly a step much further. At some point there would have to be some kind of upper limit. I mean, it's not really college athletics anymore anyway... It's just NFL Lite. 🤷‍♀️
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
Sure but the new anything goes strategy is certainly a step much further. At some point there would have to be some kind of upper limit. I mean, it's not really college athletics anymore anyway... It's just NFL Lite. 🤷‍♀️
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That's a fair point. Counterpoint that dovetails with PT's point: If there was a NIL cap, the top programs would just max it out under the rules and resort back to the anonymous duffel bags of cash to supplement it to get the top players. We'd just be changing the baseline.

Wacky idea that I haven't really thought through: What if the NFL changed its eligibility rules to let players get drafted before three years removed from HS? NCAA wouldn't like it because it would decrease the quality of the product on the field, but it could curb some of the NIL spending, and the product on the field is relative. IDK, now that I've typed it, it might not make sense.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
That's a fair point. Counterpoint that dovetails with PT's point: If there was a NIL cap, the top programs would just max it out under the rules and resort back to the anonymous duffel bags of cash to supplement it to get the top players. We'd just be changing the baseline.

Wacky idea that I haven't really thought through: What if the NFL changed its eligibility rules to let players get drafted before three years removed from HS? NCAA wouldn't like it because it would decrease the quality of the product on the field, but it could curb some of the NIL spending, and the product on the field is relative. IDK, now that I've typed it, it might not make sense.
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It doesn’t benefit the NFL to do that. With all of the off season practice rules, the NFL hardly does any development compared to years ago, so they want the players coming as developed as possible.
 
PTGrizzly said:
It doesn’t benefit the NFL to do that. With all of the off season practice rules, the NFL hardly does any development compared to years ago, so they want the players coming as developed as possible.
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Fair point. However, if the NFL could do something like the NBA does with the D-League(s), it might make more sense. Play spring seasons with teams of prospects to make money from football-starved fans. It's a multi-billion-dollar industry, so I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it, and there must be reasons "why not".
 
CDAGRIZ said:
Fair point. However, if the NFL could do something like the NBA does with the D-League(s), it might make more sense. Play spring seasons with teams of prospects to make money from football-starved fans. It's a multi-billion-dollar industry, so I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it, and there must be reasons "why not".
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Why not? I would assume paying for a developmental league is a net negative to the bottom line for a NFL owner.
 
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