The portal didn't exist then. It's completely changed the recruiting game.
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100%. So, if Boise can get him fully knowing he'll likely be gone if he kills it, I feel like we should be able to do similar things at the relative talent level. I don't think the staff would go for that approach. I think I remember BH lamenting the portal at the beginning saying something like it will just make us a farm system (paraphrasing). So, the next best approach might be bringing in experienced transfers.
Simply put: In this era, if we ever have a four-year starter at QB, we're likely doing it wrong (unless the kid is a four star born atop Mount Sentinel and held Simba-Style overlooking the stadium, thus instilling crazy loyalty to UM).
Plus all the really GOOD recent starters Adams (EWU), Gubrud (EWU), Thomson (Sac), Martinez (NAU), Barron (Weber), McCoy (Idaho) have left their programs for greener pastures, requiring them to scramble to find replacements. It's a conundrum for sure.
Good point.
mthoopsfan
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Has 3d picked a particularly bad time/year to complain about Hauck and the Griz?
Coming off a great season and trip to Frisco, some coaching awards for Hauck, multiple top newcomers from Portal and otherwise, not many departures of note, very good coaching staff with T. Hauck now the DC, season tickets and attendance at all-time highs, the fans and city are very excited, etc.
3d has me on ignore. I'm in heaven.
Coming off a great season and trip to Frisco, some coaching awards for Hauck, multiple top newcomers from Portal and otherwise, not many departures of note, very good coaching staff with T. Hauck now the DC, season tickets and attendance at all-time highs, the fans and city are very excited, etc.
3d has me on ignore. I'm in heaven.
I'm a two degree UM grad. Define 'crazy loyalty' and give us examples.
Yeah, I'm a grad and have season tickets despite not living anywhere near Missoula. That could be an example, but not on point in the player context.
Example 1: If a HS senior has offers from USC, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, and Montana, and he chooses Montana.
Example 2: If a starting QB at UM has offers to transfer to USC, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Ohio State, and chooses to stay at Montana.
Is that good enough to meet your standards of explaining one clause you picked out of a longer post with an overarching point that you've apparently missed?
Not true, there were plenty of very good returning starters from playoff teams this last year...
Sdsu, ndsu, u of south dakota, and u of north dakota all had multi year returning starters, only u.n.d. lost their starting q.b. from last year, and that's because he ran out of eligibility and grad transferred to Michigan state..
He only mentioned Big Sky teams so maybe that was his frame of reference. One wouldn't think that comparing UM to other Big Sky teams would be a stretch.
Thank you, Mom. I thought that was obvious, but apparently not.
Fine. I will start procreating right up on Mount Sentinel.100%. So, if Boise can get him fully knowing he'll likely be gone if he kills it, I feel like we should be able to do similar things at the relative talent level. I don't think the staff would go for that approach. I think I remember BH lamenting the portal at the beginning saying something like it will just make us a farm system (paraphrasing). So, the next best approach might be bringing in experienced transfers.
Simply put: In this era, if we ever have a four-year starter at QB, we're likely doing it wrong (unless the kid is a four star born atop Mount Sentinel and held Simba-Style overlooking the stadium, thus instilling crazy loyalty to UM).
AY is going to be a multiple year starter with a crazy good winning percentage. Eventual 1st Team All BSC selection and strong potential to be a national champion QB.
The only thing that can derail is if his potential leads him to elevate in the portal.
The only thing that can derail is if his potential leads him to elevate in the portal.
Now, he, and his co-procreator, are true fans. I take it the 'Simba moment' will be about March 1.
I replied to what he ACTUALLY posted...even if he meant what you think sacrament state and montana state are returning starting Q.B.'s from last season...
Another couple of good Q.B.'s on average to bad big sky teams are Richie Munoz from weber state and Dante Chachere from Portland state..
Now what do you got?
I missed nothing. I asked for a definition and examples. I only got examples. Still waiting for the definition of 'crazy loyalty'(your term, not mine).
garizzalies
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Sacrament St?!?
*sign of the cross*
Talk about throwing up a prayer, a true Hail Mary, huh?
That’s what you ACTUALLY posted
Ok, cool. Definition: The kind of loyalty to UM that would cause someone to stay at UM even if he has offers to transfer to major programs that would give him more exposure, money, and an opportunity to prove himself against better competition.I missed nothing. I asked for a definition and examples. I only got examples. Still waiting for the definition of 'crazy loyalty'(your term, not mine).
I think you might be getting caught up with the term “crazy”. Replace it with “deep” or whatever adjective you need to understand my point that a starting QB who is good enough to start early and kill it here would have to possess uncommon loyalty to UM to stick around in the portal era.
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mthoopsfan
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That's a very good point. And before that, Prukop of Cats. I didn't know this: "Prukop did a whirlwind trip, including two and a half days visiting the Ducks, followed by a red-eye flight to Alabama to visit with coach Nick Saban. Prukop was also being pursued by Michigan recently, but chose the Tuscaloosa trip over an Ann Arbor visit. He also considered Texas." Who knew that Herbert was going to arrive at Oregon at the same time.
I grew up loving the Montana Grizzlies with all my heart. If I had been a good enough player that I got an offer to play at Montana, then started at U of M, and then 20 year old Sophomore Elrod had been offered mid six figures to leave, I would have given everyone a very warm hug goodbye.
The amount of money and future potential money that is being put in front of 20 year old kids would be hard for anyone to turn down. Brotherhood and loyalty are irreplaceable, and I understand that now as an older adult. But so is a start at adult life with a damn good chunk of money.
The bold is the point I’ve been trying to make.
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