• Hi Guest, want to participate in the discussions, keep track of read/unread posts access private forums and more? Create your free account and increase the benefits of your eGriz.com experience today!

Non-Athletic Scholarship Schools


  1. While these NIL collectives are described as being distinct and separate from their institutions, generally the more closely aligned an institution is with their collective(s), the greater possibility for legal risk under Title IX. In that vein, it is critical that institutions explicitly define their level of involvement with their collective(s). For that matter, any institutional assistance regarding athlete NIL opportunities must be proportional between male and female athletes. So even if an institution is not discriminating, it can still be drawn into a Title IX violation by assisting an outside third party, like a collective, that is. Thus, any institutional assistance with a collective should be carefully pursued.
  2. As more states repeal and/or scale down their NIL laws allowing for more direct institutional involvement, institutions in these states still must be very careful not to run afoul of Title IX. In fact, just this past week, Tennessee was the latest state to modify their NIL law to allow institutions within the state to directly facilitate NIL payments for their athletes. As more and more states lessen their NIL restrictions, more institution-led collectives will arise, including marketplace exchanges where athletes can directly connect with outside third parties for NIL opportunities under the institution’s umbrella. So even if your state law becomes less restrictive, that still does not obviate Title IX requirements. Thus, any institutional assistance with NIL, even very minimal, could still be viewed as indirect involvement and therefore trigger Title IX.
  3. Title IX analysis regarding institutional involvement with collective(s) is very fact specific, so institutions are best advised to consult with legal counsel. Whether an institution can educate a collective on Title IX requirements, allow the collective to use school colors or intellectual property, or the institution even merely vet the formation of a collective are all fact specific questions that could lead to Title IX scrutiny. Therefore, any interaction with a collective by an athletic department should be treated very carefully. Even if your collective is unaffiliated with your institution, it would still be prudent to seek counsel on these legal issues presented.
 
Title IV pertains to money/services distributed by universities. Private entities choosing to pay college students for services rendered are well outside the realm. You keep saying that NIL is not supported or sanctioned by Stanford.
I have no idea what Titke means. Anyone else?
 
That NIL gives mainly to football and basketball. Thus, mostly to males. I said Title IX was a "concern", not a "problem". See bold below for Stanford's view that it is a "concern" Utah believed car dealers giving cars to men's basketball players was a Title IX problem, despite not being involved with the cars or dealers.

"Lifetime Cardinal currently has entered into agreements with over 130 student-athletes across Stanford’s football, women’s basketball, and men’s basketball teams for the 2023-24 year. Additional agreements have been signed with athletes of other teams where specific funding sources have stepped up with support."

"Stanford’s lukewarm approach to NIL

An alumni donor with knowledge of the athletics department told The Daily that former President Marc Tessier-Lavigne and former provost Persis Drell were partially responsible for Stanford’s tepid approach to NIL.

“They just don’t like the idea of paying players, so there’s a philosophical objection to begin with,” the source said.

The source also said “they’re worried about Title IX. Their concern is that if they are helpful to any [NIL] collective that is not equitable between men and women, it might make them appear non-Title IX compliant.”

Moreover, the source went on to say that both former head football coach David Shaw and current head coach Troy Taylor have a similar orientation toward NIL. He also dispelled the notion that Shaw was opposed to NIL. “David Shaw was not opposed to NIL — all of his bosses were negative on NIL,” the source said.

The athletics department’s halfhearted approach to NIL is in opposition to schools across the Power-Five, particularly those schools residing in the Southeastern Conference (SEC)."

That Stanford president is now gone.

This was from an earlier October article: "“We won’t be using NIL as a recruiting tool,” said football head coach Troy Taylor in an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle. “And I don’t see that changing.”

Stanford recently announced a partnership with a company called Altius, which is a signal that Stanford is warming up to NIL and collectives. This is in the last month. I believe a new collective has been formed recently. A new NIL position was created by Stanford. This may indicate that the new Stanford president has warmed up to NIL.

Stanford football has been 3-9 the last 2 seasons.
Title IV pertains to money/services distributed by universities. Private entities choosing to pay college students for services rendered are well outside the realm. You keep saying that NIL is not supported or sanctioned by Stanford.
I have no idea what Titke means. Anyone else?
You don't know what you are talking about and don't understand Title IX. If a school cooperates with an NIL collective or encourages contribution to it, Title IX is implicated. What hasn't been decided yet, to my knowledge, is whether schools allowing NIL's to fund mainly men's sports is also a violation.

"Utah football deal sparks a debate: Has NIL been fair to women?

Because NIL opportunities have disproportionately gone to male athletes, Title IX lawyers believe there could be concerns for schools across the country."​


"In the end zone of Rice-Eccles Stadium last October, 85 scholarship football players gathered around a fleet of new Ram Big Horn 1500 trucks.

With University President Taylor Randall, athletic director Mark Harlan, and head coach Kyle Whittingham watching, players found out they were about to be given the keys as part of a Name, Image and Likeness deal (NIL).

It was a fleet of trucks worth an estimated $6 million, according to the dealership that provided the leases to each player.

Attorney Arthur Bryant saw it another way.

“It appears to be blatant, illegal sex discrimination in violation of Title IX,” said Bryant, a California attorney who specializes in such cases. “It is in-your-face discrimination against the women athletes. Where are their pickup trucks?”

But multiple lawyers who spoke to The Tribune say they’ve seen increased school involvement with deals across the country — and they predicted NIL and Title IX are on a collision course.

“University officials keep saying that NIL is the wild, wild west and there’s no rules and no laws,” Bryant said. “That’s not true. There is a law. It’s Title IX.”

Close argued that even if collectives truly operated on their own, entirely independently of the university, it should still raise Title IX concerns.

“I do not think it’s accurate or right, or in the spirit of the law,” Close said of the argument the NIL collectives are independent from the school. “And that’s where we need the courts to step in. We need Congress to say, ‘No, no, no that isn’t how Title IX was intended or written. We see it as a violation.’ The Department of Education came out with a statement saying, ‘No collectives really are under Title IX.”



Utah had to take quick corrective action: "On Dec. 13, Utah’s Crimson Collective announced it would offer SUV and truck leases to members of the men’s basketball, women’s basketball and gymnastics teams."
 
You clearly stated “No NIL collective is officially affiliated with Stanford.”
If that’s true there is no issue with Title IX.
If it’s not true this is just another example of you choosing a narrative and then trying to support it with confirmation bias as you make crap up in a weak attempt to look like you actually have knowledge on the topic. Laughable.
 
You clearly stated “No NIL collective is officially affiliated with Stanford.”
If that’s true there is no issue with Title IX.
If it’s not true this is just another example of you choosing a narrative and then trying to support it with confirmation bias as you make crap up in a weak attempt to look like you actually have knowledge on the topic. Laughable.
Stanford believes that NIL is a Title IX problem. It doesn’t matter what you think.
 
You clearly stated “No NIL collective is officially affiliated with Stanford.”
If that’s true there is no issue with Title IX.
If it’s not true this is just another example of you choosing a narrative and then trying to support it with confirmation bias as you make crap up in a weak attempt to look like you actually have knowledge on the topic. Laughable.
Jesus Christ, who the fu*k cares?!
 
Title IV pertains to money/services distributed by universities. Private entities choosing to pay college students for services rendered are well outside the realm. You keep saying that NIL is not supported or sanctioned by Stanford.
I have no idea what Titke means. Anyone else?
I had never heard of Title IV be-IV.
 
I see you still don’t understand the definition of a troll either. Oh well, some people will never learn.
Not even close genius..

just because you and many others over here on egriz were "clever" enough to put griz or grizzlies as the second half of your username doesn't exclude ALL of being some of the biggest trolls on this board...

I don't know if it's funny or sad that you and others like you cannot understand this...
 
Not even close genius..

just because you and many others over here on egriz were "clever" enough to put griz or grizzlies as the second half of your username doesn't exclude ALL of being some of the biggest trolls on this board...

I don't know if it's funny or sad that you and others like you cannot understand this...
So the Montana Grizzlies are your team and this is your teams fan forum? My bad, I thought you were a fan of some other sorry sad team. Honestly though I wish you were a better sh it talker. It’s not really that fun anymore with you. I’m used to more worthy opponents and your not worthy.
 
So the Montana Grizzlies are your team and this is your teams fan forum? My bad, I thought you were a fan of some other sorry sad team. Honestly though I wish you were a better sh it talker. It’s not really that fun anymore with you. I’m used to more worthy opponents and your not worthy.
Fine with me, you can go kick rocks and move on.

Have fun with elrod aka mthoops/playarep...
 
So you’re avoiding my question? Is this your teams fan forum or mine? The correct answer will tell who the troll is.
Yeah, not avoiding anything from you..

Because you thought long hard to be creative with your handle, doesn't excuse you from being a troll, time and time again.

You've admitted numerous times you like "douching" on people.

Pray tell what that means if not trolling, others. you truly are clueless..smh.
 
Back
Top