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The dynamics of this are crazy, and may end up giving us the opposite of what the GOP wants … even George Will seems to think it may end up that way:
George Will’s statement is why Trumpcare passage could destroy GOP & help Single-Payer
June 25, 2017 By Egberto Willies
Conservative commentator George Will sometimes surprises when he makes statements unclouded by his very Conservative ideology and steeped in reality. His statement is the reasons why the GOP would be in trouble if they pass Trumpcare and Democrats run an unabashedly Progressive campaign on healthcare and middle-class values. In fact, he seemed resolved to single-payer Medicare for all.
The process argument ..., is an excuse," George Will said. "I don't think the problem is that this violates the president's campaign promise not to cut Medicaid. You can argue as Senator Johnson did that it's just a slowing of the expansion. The problem isn't that this violates the Menuchin rule no one seems to remember. It is that the Treasury Secretary said there would be no large tax cut for the wealthy. This is a large tax cut for the wealthy.
George Will’s statement is why Trumpcare passage could destroy GOP & help Single-Payer
June 25, 2017 By Egberto Willies
Conservative commentator George Will sometimes surprises when he makes statements unclouded by his very Conservative ideology and steeped in reality. His statement is the reasons why the GOP would be in trouble if they pass Trumpcare and Democrats run an unabashedly Progressive campaign on healthcare and middle-class values. In fact, he seemed resolved to single-payer Medicare for all.
The process argument ..., is an excuse," George Will said. "I don't think the problem is that this violates the president's campaign promise not to cut Medicaid. You can argue as Senator Johnson did that it's just a slowing of the expansion. The problem isn't that this violates the Menuchin rule no one seems to remember. It is that the Treasury Secretary said there would be no large tax cut for the wealthy. This is a large tax cut for the wealthy.
Once again, I have learned great wisdom from my man, Trump. This is why I am glad he is our President.
I always thought that to succeed you had to achieve certain norms to achieve that success.That if you set out to win a Championship, as the Warriors did this year, or our Griz have done in the past, you actually had to outscore every opponent up to and including the Championship game. Or if you wanted to claim the heavyweight championship of the world, you actually had to defeat your opponent.
Or if for eight years, you main goal was to "Replace and Repeal" Obamacare; that if you had proclaimed again and again on the campaign trail and during the first six months of your Presidency, that with Republican control of both houses of Congress and of the Presidency you would...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-promises-236021
...that you actually had to do it. But, oh! I was ever wrong!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-vote-pretty-impressive_us_596e43e5e4b0000eb19643a3?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
There is a shortcut to success: Just lower the requirements! Lo! I am a success!!
My parents never told me...
I always thought that to succeed you had to achieve certain norms to achieve that success.That if you set out to win a Championship, as the Warriors did this year, or our Griz have done in the past, you actually had to outscore every opponent up to and including the Championship game. Or if you wanted to claim the heavyweight championship of the world, you actually had to defeat your opponent.
Or if for eight years, you main goal was to "Replace and Repeal" Obamacare; that if you had proclaimed again and again on the campaign trail and during the first six months of your Presidency, that with Republican control of both houses of Congress and of the Presidency you would...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obamacare-promises-236021
...that you actually had to do it. But, oh! I was ever wrong!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-vote-pretty-impressive_us_596e43e5e4b0000eb19643a3?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
There is a shortcut to success: Just lower the requirements! Lo! I am a success!!
My parents never told me...
EverettGriz said:
I think the Republican Health Care plan has a ton of flaws and has no chance of passing. But I always find it funny that the Dem's never have a problem adding taxes to the quote "wealthy" but when the Republicans try to get rid of these Obamacare tax increases they always scream that the tax cut's favor the rich, or wealthy or top 1%.
Almost all of the taxes that would be cut in the Republican plan are the taxes that were put in place to pay for Obamacare, nothing more, nothing less. So what does this tell you as to who was paying for Obamacare?
The major tax provisions in the bill would:
—Delay a new "Cadillac" tax on high-cost health insurance plans until 2026. This is a budget gimmick to ensure that the bill complies with Senate rules that forbid the legislation from adding to the federal government's long-term debt.
The tax was part of Obama's health law, and it has long been unpopular among Republicans, as well as business groups and labor. On paper, the tax would take effect in 2026, generating billions of dollars in revenue every year after.
However, Congress has already delayed the tax once, until 2020, making it unlikely lawmakers will ever let it take effect. Of course, in 2026, it will be somebody else's problem.
— Repeal a tax on wealthy investors, saving them about $172 billion over the next decade.
Obama's health law enacted an additional 3.8 percent tax on investment income for married couples making more than $250,000 a year and individuals making more than $125,000. The Senate bill would repeal the tax this year.
About 90 percent of the benefit from repealing the tax would go to the top 1 percent of earners, who make $700,000 or more, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.
—Repeal a new Medicare payroll tax on high-income families, saving them about $59 billion over the next decade. Obama's health law enacted an additional 0.9 percent payroll tax on wages above $250,000 for married couples and above $125,000 for individuals. The Senate bill would repeal the tax in 2023.
—Repeal a tax penalty on larger employers not providing health insurance to workers, saving them $171 billion over the next decade.
—Repeal a tax penalty for people who do not get health insurance, saving them $38 billion over the next decade.
—Repeal a new annual fee on health providers, based on market share, saving them about $145 billion over the next decade.
—Repeal a 2.3 percent excise tax on companies that make or import medical devices, saving them around $19 billion over the next decade. The Senate bill would repeal the tax in 2018 — a year later than the House bill.
—Repeal a 10 percent excise tax on tanning services, saving people $621 million over the next decade.
CV Griz Fan
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The thumbs down vote heard around the world. Hmmm....like a Mafia don McCain rat f*cks Trump. Pay back is a bitch.
What? We failed to repeal Obamacare? Are you SURE? I just went to my one news source, Fox News, and I saw nothing about this. Certainly if the Republicans had failed to repeal after 70-some House votes, seven years of campaigning and full control of both the House and the Senate, this would have made headlines, no? What are your sources?
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
fencer24
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John McCain just killed the Republican Party. Why would I ever vote for someone again who is a proven liar? Both Dems and Reps are only interested in power and won't give up an inch when pressed.
Well fine. The only thing is, if you are going to keep Obamacare, implement it fully. No more exemptions for companies over 50 people. Implement immediately the Cadillac tax on health care. Up the rate of student loan interest to pay for Medicaid and Medicare.
The Republicans and Democrats have spoken. Give America what it wants real good and hard!
Well fine. The only thing is, if you are going to keep Obamacare, implement it fully. No more exemptions for companies over 50 people. Implement immediately the Cadillac tax on health care. Up the rate of student loan interest to pay for Medicaid and Medicare.
The Republicans and Democrats have spoken. Give America what it wants real good and hard!
citay said:
Thank you for this link, Citay. I learned I must immediately cut ties with the Boy Scouts. Turns out they're just an offshoot of the Young Pioneers. Fucking little scumbag socialists!
Their female fellow travelers might want to keep their distance from me as well. I imagine that all their precious little cookie sales go straight to the Clinton Foundation.
