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[AZGrizFan]

Fullerton JC is defending and back to back State and National Champions. If you are going to go the JC route Fullerton JC currently the best in the nation.

Link: https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171209riunqt

Took me awhile to figure this one out … after seeing Fullerton refer to themselves as “national” as well as “state” champions. I looked up the national Junior College championship … and Fullerton was nowhere to be seen. The current NJCAA champion is East Mississippi Community College

Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. That is, California has its own “community college” organization, the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). They all started out together as part of the NJCAA, based on a meeting at Fresno in 1937. But then California “took their football and went home,” i.e., pulled out of the NJCAA. That seems to have happened in 1951 … that’s when the NJCAA handbook says the “California Junior College Association bans state schools from participating in NJCAA sponsored events.”

Of course, both associations are about more than football, but I suppose CCCAA champions in other sports also call themselves “national” champions. Pretty funny.

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

 

[IdaGriz01]

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Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. ...

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

Badly worded statement. I should have elaborated. Texas is just generally arrogant about its football (admittedly with some justification). What I meant was: Compared to the arrogance that Texas has about its football, in general, California outdoes them at this level of football. Have not been able to find the story of the breakup. But it takes a lot of gall to tell the rest of the country ... Screw you, we'll play only an in-state schedule, but still call the winner a "national champion." (Not sure if they use that wording in sports other than football.) Sorry 'bout that.

 

[Grizzly96]

Fullerton JC is defending and back to back State and National Champions. If you are going to go the JC route Fullerton JC currently the best in the nation.

Link: https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171209riunqt

Took me awhile to figure this one out … after seeing Fullerton refer to themselves as “national” as well as “state” champions. I looked up the national Junior College championship … and Fullerton was nowhere to be seen. The current NJCAA champion is East Mississippi Community College

Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. That is, California has its own “community college” organization, the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). They all started out together as part of the NJCAA, based on a meeting at Fresno in 1937. But then California “took their football and went home,” i.e., pulled out of the NJCAA. That seems to have happened in 1951 … that’s when the NJCAA handbook says the “California Junior College Association bans state schools from participating in NJCAA sponsored events.”

Of course, both associations are about more than football, but I suppose CCCAA champions in other sports also call themselves “national” champions. Pretty funny.

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

They’re not, they’re just that good. Texas JC’s play in the NJCAA and are always ranked amongst the best. Fullerton would get DEMOLISHED if they actually played against the real top JC’s in the nation(not just Texas). Numerous D1 players come from the Texas JC’s and those in the NJCAA. Fullerton is NOT the JC National Champion and wouldn’t even come close if they played in NJCAA.

Jensen picked what he thought was best, good for him, but I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening. The “competition” is just as tough, if not tougher, at the JC or “CC” level and that’s reality, not putting down Jensen.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... They’re not, they’re just that good. Texas JC’s play in the NJCAA and are always ranked amongst the best. Fullerton would get DEMOLISHED if they actually played against the real top JC’s in the nation (not just Texas). Numerous D1 players come from the Texas JC’s and those in the NJCAA. Fullerton is NOT the JC National Champion and wouldn’t even come close if they played in NJCAA.

Jensen picked what he thought was best, good for him, but I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening. The “competition” is just as tough, if not tougher, at the JC or “CC” level and that’s reality, not putting down Jensen.

See my mea culpa above about a poorly word statement. Although I'm not too unhappy since it sparked an interesting discussion. (Disclosure: I was born and raised in Cali and went to a "community college" there for my first two years.)

Anyway, I don't really follow JC/CC football. But I was pretty sure that Texas would be a power there too. (Although I see it's been a few years since they won the NJCAA national championship.) Like I said above, I'm not sure why California decided to go it alone. But it means that the relative merits of the two sets of teams can't be decided where it should be ... on the field. Too bad.

 

[SloStang]

Even if Fullerton is not a “true” National Champion and California is full of themselves, Fullerton has been the best JC team in California the last 2 years and that makes them one of the better JC teams in the Nation. Mississippi, Florida, Texas and a few other states may have something to say about that, but California produces some of the top football players in the country and that is also true in the JC ranks.

 

[IdaGriz01]

Even if Fullerton is not a “true” National Champion and California is full of themselves, Fullerton has been the best JC team in California the last 2 years and that makes them one of the better JC teams in the Nation. Mississippi, Florida, Texas and a few other states may have something to say about that, but California produces some of the top football players in the country and that is also true in the JC ranks.

And Cali does have one point going for them:

The two largest associations are the National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA) and California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). In the NJCAA, of 530 member colleges, 65 sponsored a football program, as of February, 2018. In the CCCAA, of 107 member colleges, 68 sponsored a football program, as of February, 2018.

So, if these number are accurate, California has more than half of the JC/CC football programs in the country. Given the state's budget problems, I find that a bit odd, BTW.

Edit: Wonder if teams like UM (where staff's are more limited) has someone specific to follow JC/CC football to look for likely recruits, or if that falls on the position recruiters generally.

 

[tourist]

IdaGri01, remember, this is the Democratic Socialist People's Republic of California. They just bump up taxes to support whatever they want to support.

 

[Grizzly96]

... They’re not, they’re just that good. Texas JC’s play in the NJCAA and are always ranked amongst the best. Fullerton would get DEMOLISHED if they actually played against the real top JC’s in the nation (not just Texas). Numerous D1 players come from the Texas JC’s and those in the NJCAA. Fullerton is NOT the JC National Champion and wouldn’t even come close if they played in NJCAA.

Jensen picked what he thought was best, good for him, but I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening. The “competition” is just as tough, if not tougher, at the JC or “CC” level and that’s reality, not putting down Jensen.

See my mea culpa above about a poorly word statement. Although I'm not too unhappy since it sparked an interesting discussion. (Disclosure: I was born and raised in Cali and went to a "community college" there for my first two years.)

Anyway, I don't really follow JC/CC football. But I was pretty sure that Texas would be a power there too. (Although I see it's been a few years since they won the NJCAA national championship.) Like I said above, I'm not sure why California decided to go it alone. But it means that the relative merits of the two sets of teams can't be decided where it should be ... on the field. Too bad.

Yes, I saw that after I hit submit. Yes, I wish they could decide it on the field. I follow JC/CC just to see who could be up and coming for a program.

 

[IdaGriz01]

IdaGri01, remember, this is the Democratic Socialist People's Republic of California. They just bump up taxes to support whatever they want to support.

Well, I understand your point. But football is competitive (Gasp! people are judged), sexist (no, or hardly any, females), and dangerous to your health. Is that really PC?

 

[Grizzly96]

IdaGri01, remember, this is the Democratic Socialist People's Republic of California. They just bump up taxes to support whatever they want to support.

Well, I understand your point. But football is competitive (Gasp! people are judged), sexist (no, or hardly any, females), and dangerous to your health. Is that really PC?

Like most things out there, they “pick and choose” what’s important and not important!!

 

['68griz]

Good for him! I hope he tears it up over there and gets another shot at a top FCS or FBS school. Would have loved to see him stick around, but I can't blame him for leaving. He was fun to watch

+1

 

[NAUJacksFan]

You guys obviously don't follow JUCO football. California's CCCAA has many more teams than the NJCAA has. That is why they have their own organization. JCGridiron.com the top National JUCO football website in the country has had Fullerton at the top of their Dirty30 rankings for the past two years. Fullerton is always in the hunt for CA and "Mythical National Titles". Their roster is typically loaded with talent from all over the country.

The best JC Program in CA for the past 10 years.


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Fullerton JC is defending and back to back State and National Champions. If you are going to go the JC route Fullerton JC currently the best in the nation.

Link: https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171209riunqt

Took me awhile to figure this one out … after seeing Fullerton refer to themselves as “national” as well as “state” champions. I looked up the national Junior College championship … and Fullerton was nowhere to be seen. The current NJCAA champion is East Mississippi Community College

Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. That is, California has its own “community college” organization, the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). They all started out together as part of the NJCAA, based on a meeting at Fresno in 1937. But then California “took their football and went home,” i.e., pulled out of the NJCAA. That seems to have happened in 1951 … that’s when the NJCAA handbook says the “California Junior College Association bans state schools from participating in NJCAA sponsored events.”

Of course, both associations are about more than football, but I suppose CCCAA champions in other sports also call themselves “national” champions. Pretty funny.

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

 

[Bearcountry92]

Why is it every time GJ gets brought up bunch of people slam him or slam the coach? I was looking forward to seeing him play again with the griz. But something was not working out. Nobody truly knows his reasons but him. Idc if you’re good buddies with people involved in the program, I’m sure he kept things to himself. And to blame a coach is just as bad. I’m sure BH would have liked to see him stay.
Best of luck to Jensen.

 

[PlayerRep]

Looks like Jensen found a nice spot for himself. It seemed to me that JC was the only way to go. Could play this coming year, and then transfer to a good school who needed a qb. Despite what we've heard about his feeling of entitlement and unwillingness to suck it up and compete hard this winter/spring, I hope he has the drive to suck it up and compete at the JC and his next stop. It's likely to be very competitive at each stop. He obviously has very good talent. From what I heard abut his high school days and seeing him at UM, he is a winner. Don't know why he reacted so poorly to the new coaches and Sneed.

Assume playing at the JC, as good as it is, will be humbling to him, after playing for the Griz. Hopefully, motivating too.

As I said previously, a starting receiver said that if Jensen didn't want to be a Griz, it's fine that he's gone. This receiver only wants to play with guys who want to a Griz.

 

[Griz#64]

Did not a former Montana great(Hal Sherbeck) mentor that program, and I believe his wife (Donna) was the Tennis Coach?? I am sure there are some old guys still around that can confirm.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I think he's making a big mistake. He left because he didn't want to be backup to Sneed, but what if something happens to Sneed, he'd be the starter again, exactly what happened last year.

I think our QB situation is very strong. Sneed may actually end up backing up Humphrey. That was a big time get for the Griz.

And there was no guarantee that he wouldnt have beaten out Sneed, if GJ wanted to actually compete, he has crazy high upside, and would have very likely beaten Sneed out. Didnt want to compete tho so I guess hes gone.

Hope he kills it than goes FBS, maybe Pac-12, this route is normal for a lot of kids, our top 2 QBs have done the same. I just hop e he doesnt end up in the BigSky in a year.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Fullerton JC is defending and back to back State and National Champions. If you are going to go the JC route Fullerton JC currently the best in the nation.

Link: https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171209riunqt

Took me awhile to figure this one out … after seeing Fullerton refer to themselves as “national” as well as “state” champions. I looked up the national Junior College championship … and Fullerton was nowhere to be seen. The current NJCAA champion is East Mississippi Community College

Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. That is, California has its own “community college” organization, the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). They all started out together as part of the NJCAA, based on a meeting at Fresno in 1937. But then California “took their football and went home,” i.e., pulled out of the NJCAA. That seems to have happened in 1951 … that’s when the NJCAA handbook says the “California Junior College Association bans state schools from participating in NJCAA sponsored events.”

Of course, both associations are about more than football, but I suppose CCCAA champions in other sports also call themselves “national” champions. Pretty funny.

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

They’re not, they’re just that good. Texas JC’s play in the NJCAA and are always ranked amongst the best. Fullerton would get DEMOLISHED if they actually played against the real top JC’s in the nation(not just Texas). Numerous D1 players come from the Texas JC’s and those in the NJCAA. Fullerton is NOT the JC National Champion and wouldn’t even come close if they played in NJCAA.

Jensen picked what he thought was best, good for him, but I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening. The “competition” is just as tough, if not tougher, at the JC or “CC” level and that’s reality, not putting down Jensen.

Not sure about that.

 

[THE BETCH]

64. this old Griz confirms. I believe Hal still holds the JC record for most wins ever.
Wife, Corky, was nationally ranked as a tennis player. He should have been the Montana head coach and was passed over, which led him to Fullerton. Was my freshman basketball at UM. Truly one of Montana's greats.

 

[Fahque]

Fullerton JC is defending and back to back State and National Champions. If you are going to go the JC route Fullerton JC currently the best in the nation.

Link: https://www.fchornets.com/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20171209riunqt

Took me awhile to figure this one out … after seeing Fullerton refer to themselves as “national” as well as “state” champions. I looked up the national Junior College championship … and Fullerton was nowhere to be seen. The current NJCAA champion is East Mississippi Community College

Turns out, California is even more arrogant than Texas when it comes to this level of football. That is, California has its own “community college” organization, the California Community College Athletic Association (CCCAA). They all started out together as part of the NJCAA, based on a meeting at Fresno in 1937. But then California “took their football and went home,” i.e., pulled out of the NJCAA. That seems to have happened in 1951 … that’s when the NJCAA handbook says the “California Junior College Association bans state schools from participating in NJCAA sponsored events.”

Of course, both associations are about more than football, but I suppose CCCAA champions in other sports also call themselves “national” champions. Pretty funny.

What’s arrogant about Texas’s approach to this level of football?

They’re not, they’re just that good. Texas JC’s play in the NJCAA and are always ranked amongst the best. Fullerton would get DEMOLISHED if they actually played against the real top JC’s in the nation(not just Texas). Numerous D1 players come from the Texas JC’s and those in the NJCAA. Fullerton is NOT the JC National Champion and wouldn’t even come close if they played in NJCAA.

Jensen picked what he thought was best, good for him, but I think he’s going to be in for a rude awakening. The “competition” is just as tough, if not tougher, at the JC or “CC” level and that’s reality, not putting down Jensen.

And you're assuming he doesn't want to compete...give it a rest already and wish the young man good luck

 

[MikeyGriz]

Good for him. I hope he finds success. Wish he would have stayed with the Griz and tore it up! Imagine what would have happened with Bobby as a mentor!