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Why Good Teams Play 1 QB !!!

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billingsgriz

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We went into Saturday's game with Bobby Hauck, Brent Pease, and probably the rest of our staff thinking we needed 30 + points to win this game against a good Cal-Davis team tonight due to our porous D vs. teams with winning records ( Mo. State, W. Carolina) and/or teams with potent offenses ( EWU and Weber). I am fairly confident that none of our coaches thought 20 or fewer GRIZ points would lead to a W.

And so we rotated QB's tonight, neither Logan or Keli'i could really get in rhythm while Davis's potent O carved up our D, which was on the field way too long due to our own impotent and inconsistent offense. And because we were frequently rotating QB's and neither Logan or Keli'i could get in a rhythm, especially with their receivers, I think we doomed any chance we had of winning tonight's game because by rotating QB's, we were not going to score the 30-40 points needed to give us a shot at a win against a tough, physical, well-coached Davis team.

As I said on a game thread post, my friend, his wife and I tried while watching the game @ Hooligan's in Downtown Billings to think of a college or NFL team that had won a national championship or Super Bowl while playing and regularly rotating two QB's and we couldn't think of one.

I think we need to stick with Logan Fife as our starting QB the rest of the regular season against PSU and the Shi##y Kitties and the playoffs, if we make the playoffs. Logan is a little older, and little bigger, doesn't normalky hold on the ball too long, and doesn't get happy feet and throw as many pics as young Mr. Ah Yat.

I read and heard an interview with Bobby at the beginning of the year where he said the old football proverb that if a team plays two QB's, they don't have a quarterback is no longer true. After tonight's game, I hope he re-evaluates that statement !!!
 
You're probably right, Helena, and had we stuck with either Logan or Keli'i fir the entire game, we still very well could have lost

I believe any chance we did have of winning required us to score 30 + points and by rotating Logan and Keli'i against a very good Davis team, there was no way in hell we were scoring 30 + tonight !!!
 
billingsgriz said:
You're probably right, Helena, and had we stuck with either Logan or Keli'i fir the entire game, we still very well could have lost

I believe any chance we did have of winning required us to score 30 + points and by rotating Logan and Keli'i against a very good Davis team, there was no way in hell we were scoring 30 + tonight !!!
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Coaches fucked up pulling Fife when they did, 5/6 with 1 TD, moving the offense and only incomplete pass was a drop by Grossman
 
Fife was in a fucking groove man, he looked damn good and confident on that first drive. Had we stuck with him maybe we score on a couple more drives in the first half. Forcing those throws though killed us. Ah Yat did show a ton of spirit and heart when we scored in the 3rd. He is the better running QB and his passing will get better with reps.
 
There just might be a reason it has been said that “if you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks”. The Griz are doing their best to prove it. I suspect it has as much to do with pre-game preparation as it does with in-game momentum. There is little chance that you can prepare two players equally well as when you mainly focus on one with a backup. What I don’t think I have seen is growth. Normally you would expect a player to learn and evolve over the season but to my untrained eyes, both QBs play pretty much like they did at the beginning of the season. Fife can move the team but makes big mistakes. Ah Yat can run and throws a pretty spiral but doesn’t see the field well. So here we are.
 
I’ve mentioned this before, but this staff is so thick headed and adamant that their way is right that they won’t ride the hot hand when it goes against their “plan”. It has literally cost us 2 out of the 3 losses we have now.

UND KAY was rolling and we put in Fife and he never gets his rhythm back. Can’t convert in the second half and we lose the game.

This game Fife was great out of the gate and the offense was moving with ease from the script with zero adjustments. They put in KAY and we never really gets going except when KAY tries to put the game on his shoulders.

Also from Pease, why the hell did we stop attacking the edge. They had a heavy box all game and we have speed all over the field and refuse to keep pushing it outside to lighten the box.
 
Fife leads us on an opening drive and gets benched-- HUH ?

Maybe if Logan plays the whole game, we still lose. But maybe instead we score 2 or 3 more first half TD's with Logan under center, Davis is on their back foot and has to come out of their game plan, and we win

Thanks to our not-so-brilliant coaching yesterday, we'll never know !!!

And laying an egg like that on national TV diminishes any recruiting boost we received from playing on ESPN 2.
 
I really don't think it was possible to play one quarterback in that weather. With Fife being from California, and Ah Yat from Hawaii, it was clear they need to rotate and get some time on the sideline to warm their hands. Huge factor in this game.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the best our offense played this year was the stretch when Ah Yat was out hurt. No knock on Ah Yat, it's more a testament to the fact that we didn't rotate QB's, had some good momentum going with Fife, and kept that going as he stayed in, even if he made a little whoopsie. Who knew even the best QB's make mistakes? I saw someone else mention in another thread about "hero ball" or whatever and saying both QB's threw bad passes, but it was because we were down. I'd say it was more that Fife and Ah Yat are trying to make passes to impress the coaches so they get to stay in. The QB rotation might be the worst decisions the Griz have done (and many of us lived through the Phen days as OC, especially the '08 and '09 chippers).
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the best our offense played this year was the stretch when Ah Yat was out hurt. No knock on Ah Yat, it's more a testament to the fact that we didn't rotate QB's, had some good momentum going with Fife, and kept that going as he stayed in, even if he made a little whoopsie. Who knew even the best QB's make mistakes? I saw someone else mention in another thread about "hero ball" or whatever and saying both QB's threw bad passes, but it was because we were down. I'd say it was more that Fife and Ah Yat are trying to make passes to impress the coaches so they get to stay in. The QB rotation might be the worst decisions the Griz have done (and many of us lived through the Phen days as OC, especially the '08 and '09 chippers).
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Maybe, but it could also be that it was against EWU and Weber.
 
Raider said:
I really don't think it was possible to play one quarterback in that weather. With Fife being from California, and Ah Yat from Hawaii, it was clear they need to rotate and get some time on the sideline to warm their hands. Huge factor in this game.
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I honestly can't believe neither one of them got frostbite (that we know about). Should've ran a 2-QB rotation with the Helena guy and the Whitefish guy. At least they're used to cold because they're Montana Tough. How those California fellas could go from the scorching November weather in Davis to the frozen tundra in Missoula without a single loss of limb is beyond me.
 
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