Where's the sweep?

[coachkenelty]

The timing and the mesh of the sweep would seem to be critical. Why have we not seen it fall or scrimmages

 

[BWahlberg]

It's a single play in a very big play book.

From the announcement of the hiring of Stitt it seemed the emphasis on the "Fly Sweep" being his offense was way over blown. He's credited as the inventor of it and has some national notoriety for it for sure... but it's just a play.

It would be like if we labeled Don Read's offense "the bubble screen"

 

[get'em_griz]

The timing and the mesh of the sweep would seem to be critical. Why have we not seen it fall or scrimmages

Probably because it's just one of many plays the offense works on in closed practices.

 

[coachkenelty]

Brint,

Is it wrong to say it is a staple of the offense with multiple reads off the play. I understand that it is one play in a large playbook. From looking at it on film though I would say that you have the read option (creating stress on the ends) with pass options with multiple routes based on what D does. This would seem to need a lot of practice to master. I liken it to the triple option, but combining pass with possible run. The sweep must always be accounted for; like the fullback in triple option. Is this wrong?

 

[Htowngriz]

Brint,

Is it wrong to say it is a staple of the offense with multiple reads off the play. I understand that it is one play in a large playbook. From looking at it on film though I would say that you have the read option (creating stress on the ends) with pass options with multiple routes based on what D does. This would seem to need a lot of practice to master. I liken it to the triple option, but combining pass with possible run. The sweep must always be accounted for; like the fullback in triple option. Is this wrong?

None of this changes the fact that they're almost certainly practicing it, just not during the short period that the media is present.

 

[CrunchGriz]

Brint,

Is it wrong to say it is a staple of the offense with multiple reads off the play. I understand that it is one play in a large playbook. From looking at it on film though I would say that you have the read option (creating stress on the ends) with pass options with multiple routes based on what D does. This would seem to need a lot of practice to master. I liken it to the triple option, but combining pass with possible run. The sweep must always be accounted for; like the fullback in triple option. Is this wrong?

The beauty of the "Stitt Fly", and its innovation, is that the timing isn't quite as critical as the traditional fly sweep, as the QB merely tosses the ball forward a bit rather than trying to hand it off, which requires a lot more accurate mesh.

If the player running the Stitt Fly drops the ball, no big harm, it's just an incomplete pass. In the traditional fly sweep, if the fly runner drops the ball it's a fumble and all h-ll breaks loose.

 

[armonte]

The 2 scrimmages I saw this fall it seemed to me the QB wasn't deep enough as the fly would cross
at hand-off depth without enough room between the 2 to pitch it forward.

 

[mtgrizrule]

1st play of our game against NDSU will be fly sweep.

 

[Yukon]

1st play of our game against NDSU will be fly sweep.

probably won't even see it in the game. maybe not even until Liberty. Just my guess.

 

[IdaGriz01]

... The beauty of the "Stitt Fly", and its innovation, is that the timing isn't quite as critical as the traditional fly sweep, as the QB merely tosses the ball forward a bit rather than trying to hand it off, which requires a lot more accurate mesh.

If the player running the Stitt Fly drops the ball, no big harm, it's just an incomplete pass. In the traditional fly sweep, if the fly runner drops the ball it's a fumble and all h-ll breaks loose.

Since "timing is everything" on most offensive plays, the relative "forgiveness" of the fly sweep probably means that doing multiple reps on the timing of that part of the play is not so critical. My guess, based on watching the CSM tapes and various highlight bits, is that the fly sweep is one of several options on a number of plays in the Stitt offense. But, since the forward pitch on the sweep is pretty simple and relatively safe, most of the practice time would be spent on the more timing-critical parts of the overall play.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

It's a single play in a very big play book.

From the announcement of the hiring of Stitt it seemed the emphasis on the "Fly Sweep" being his offense was way over blown. He's credited as the inventor of it and has some national notoriety for it for sure... but it's just a play.

It would be like if we labeled Don Read's offense "the bubble screen"

Yep. Or like if we labeled Ron Ash's defense the "Cover Two, But Only Two, No More Than Two." Wait.

 

[jodcon]

It's a single play in a very big play book.

From the announcement of the hiring of Stitt it seemed the emphasis on the "Fly Sweep" being his offense was way over blown. He's credited as the inventor of it and has some national notoriety for it for sure... but it's just a play.

It would be like if we labeled Don Read's offense "the bubble screen"

Yep. Or like if we labeled Ron Ash's defense the "Cover Two, But Only Two, No More Than Two." Wait.

They couldn't Cover One last year if they used a circus tent.

 

[grizfan95]

Anyone else think this was going to be in reference to the football and basketball sweep UM has had over MSU in recent years?

 

[mtgriz]

Isn't a big part of its usefulness to give the quarterback a pre-snap read on the defensive coverages?

 

[CDAGRIZ]

It's a single play in a very big play book.

From the announcement of the hiring of Stitt it seemed the emphasis on the "Fly Sweep" being his offense was way over blown. He's credited as the inventor of it and has some national notoriety for it for sure... but it's just a play.

It would be like if we labeled Don Read's offense "the bubble screen"

Yep. Or like if we labeled Ron Ash's defense the "Cover Two, But Only Two, No More Than Two." Wait.

They couldn't Cover One last year if they used a circus tent.

See what I mean? It would be a misnomer.

 

[Atlanta Griz1]

The 2 scrimmages I saw this fall it seemed to me the QB wasn't deep enough as the fly would cross
at hand-off depth without enough room between the 2 to pitch it forward.

Very astute observation. I thought the same thing.

 

[GrizBear]

Stitt also invented the forward pass. They're practicing that instead.

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Stitt also invented the forward pass. They're practicing that instead.

Very astute observation, Coach Hauck.