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What we're not seeing

mtgrizrule

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Unbelievable, 2nd year in a row, I'm going to point out what we're not seeing and necessary changes. Last year, I did so before the Cat game, and we saw improvement. So apparently, there's hope the coaches and team will see things and make needed changes.

The GRIZ have multiple players who need to be better utilized. What and who aren't we seeing.? What's happened to designing plays to get the ball CONSISTENTLY in the hands of the playmakers, such as Bergen, Flowers, Harris, McKnight, Fontes?

Why aren't we taking advantage of the physical mismatch and allow Grossman to utilize his complete skill set?

Why is the only player consistently being looked to is Roberts? Yes, Roberts is a nice option, but Why is this offense not utilizing other talent too?

I know talent, when I see it. The GRIZ have a lot of talented skill players, but just aren't creative or confident enough to share the sugar.

I don't care how you do it, just get the ball to the numerous playmakers we have. Where's the triple back sets? Where's the use of Bergen, all over the field? Where's the occasional drag routes, screens, reverses, seem routes? How many times do we not see the deep routes?

Where's the faith in putting ball up to your physical mismatches like Grossman and Fontes? Idaho just beat us with 2 throw it up for grab TDs. EWU seems to have success with it over the years.

Where's the creativity in play call design and personnel utilization? What in the hell is a defense to do against a triple back set of McKnight, Bergen, Harris? Add in any combination with 2 of the 3 from Flowers, Grossman, or Fontes out wide to that. Then add in a duel threat qb, like Johnson or Britt.

The options are numerous in what the offense can do with this personnel set. How is a defense to cover our versatile backs out of the backfield and or in motion?

Want to improve the running game, use more 2 and 3 TE sets! Throw out of that personnel set, now and then, to keep the defense honest!

Want to pick a team a part, how about a consistent diet of possession of Roberts and Grossman?

Aim to attack the opposing defensive weaknesses. You know, like teams have figured out to do to our defense.

Come on, we have a wealth of qb and offensive knowledge as coaches. Why can't we figure out this crap?
 
Because our OC is trash... if he wasn't Haucks buddy he would have been fired a long time ago. UNC passed for over 300 yards on Idaho and rushed for over 90(if I remember right).. Johnson passed for 186 yards and we had a whopping 34 yards rushing. We didn't even try to really get the run game going. 0 creativity to the offense. Which makes the o Line look worse than they are. Our o Line isn't great but, they definitely not bad... shit, bring in Stitt as an OC, his main downfall was no defense...
 
If you say the football team will goes as far as it’s offensive line then……..ugh!
I totally agree that something or someone on the offensive side of the ball needs changing. 34 total rushing yards is simply embarrassing. One has to question what happened to Johnson. I mean he was ranked 5 among FCS quarterbacks and today he looked absolutely aweful. .
 
We got spoiled the first three games with Defense and Special Teams scoring multiple TD’s each game. Funny how when they don’t add their 14-17 points we struggle to win. Our offense this year has really always been average (whether that’s coach, scheme, talent, or execution, I don’t know as I never played the game) so apparently this team is only going as far as special teams and defense takes it. Offense is good for about 25 points a game.
 
AZGrizFan said:
We got spoiled the first three games with Defense and Special Teams scoring multiple TD’s each game. Funny how when they don’t add their 14-17 points we struggle to win. Our offense this year has really always been average (whether that’s coach, scheme, talent, or execution, I don’t know as I never played the game) so apparently this team is only going as far as special teams and defense takes it. Offense is good for about 25 points a game.

We barely beat Idaho State 2 weeks ago-a TERRIBLE team. That should have been a bigger wake-up call. We haven't played ANYBODY good yet. We soon will. We'll find out soon if this team is legit. Obviously the jury is out now until they prove otherwise,
 
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.
 
Grisly Fan said:
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.

It’s hard to have ball possession when you have no semblance of a run game and the WR’s routinely drop balls that are catchable and the QB routinely overthrows WR’s who are open or forces a ball into triple coverage when other WR’s are running free. That happened a LOT today.
 
Grisly Fan said:
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.
The offense just feels soft. It feels like it's all finesse. No idea if the problem can be traced to the OC specifically, but it's been this way since Hauck came back.
 
uofmman1122 said:
Grisly Fan said:
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.
The offense just feels soft. It feels like it's all finesse. No idea if the problem can be traced to the OC specifically, but it's been this way since Hauck came back.

Is it just me or does it seem like Johnson floats almost ever pass? I rarely if ever see one delivered with real “zip”. That was Humphrey’s problem the OTHER direction, where every one was a fastball….every one of Johnson’s seems like a floater…
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grisly Fan said:
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.

It’s hard to have ball possession when you have no semblance of a run game and the WR’s routinely drop balls that are catchable and the QB routinely overthrows WR’s who are open or forces a ball into triple coverage when other WR’s are running free. That happened a LOT today.

Point taken. I checked and average TOP, including Idaho game, is 27 to 33 which is better than it feels.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grisly Fan said:
We aren’t seeing even a modest attempt at ball control. Apparently the coaches are fine with 20 minutes of ball possession a game.

It’s hard to have ball possession when you have no semblance of a run game and the WR’s routinely drop balls that are catchable and the QB routinely overthrows WR’s who are open or forces a ball into triple coverage when other WR’s are running free. That happened a LOT today.

Bobby's obsessed with the hurry up offense, even with a 2 score lead in the 4th quarter (Idaho State this yr and it directly caused the Sac St loss a few yrs ago). Idaho prefers to milk the clock. Maybe they are on to something. I'm afraid Bobby's giant ego won't allow him to change his stubborn-ways though. Terrible Time-out management too. You call time-outs of Defense, not offense when you losing late in the 4th quarter, Bobby. He, stupidly let Idaho run the clock down. WTF?
 
Grisly Fan said:
AZGrizFan said:
It’s hard to have ball possession when you have no semblance of a run game and the WR’s routinely drop balls that are catchable and the QB routinely overthrows WR’s who are open or forces a ball into triple coverage when other WR’s are running free. That happened a LOT today.

Point taken. I checked and average TOP, including Idaho game, is 27 to 33 which is better than it feels.

Go check Idaho’s against other oppponents. They routinely have significant TOP advantages because of their scheme.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Grisly Fan said:
Point taken. I checked and average TOP, including Idaho game, is 27 to 33 which is better than it feels.

Go check Idaho’s against other oppponents. They routinely have significant TOP advantages because of their scheme.
I don't think they ran a single play outside of that TD drive before the half where they snapped the ball with more than 6 seconds left on the play clock. That's their thing and when you can't stop them, they eat up a ton of game time.
 
uofmman1122 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Go check Idaho’s against other oppponents. They routinely have significant TOP advantages because of their scheme.
I don't think they ran a single play outside of that TD drive before the half where they snapped the ball with more than 6 seconds left on the play clock. That's their thing and when you can't stop them, they eat up a ton of game time.

And as I posted on another thread, our offensive failures exacerbated the TOP issue. We had exactly TWO drives longer than 6 plays. And only ran 56 plays on the day.
 
uofmman1122 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Go check Idaho’s against other oppponents. They routinely have significant TOP advantages because of their scheme.
I don't think they ran a single play outside of that TD drive before the half where they snapped the ball with more than 6 seconds left on the play clock. That's their thing and when you can't stop them, they eat up a ton of game time.

You are right.Actually it was under 3 seconds most snaps for Idaho-that's their thing, and I don't care what your plan is UNTIL it's the 4th quarter and clock-management is the #1 priority. Bobby ALWAYS keeps the hurry-up going even with a 2-score lead in the 4th (see Idaho State). Why? and then he also didn't call time-outs while Idaho whittled the clock away (and could have saved 25 seconds at a time) and then uses them on offense, only saving a few seconds. He's is Terrible at clock-management. I've always thought so. He doesn't "get it" at all.
 
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