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Didn't Wilson's friend/roommate get in trouble for holding a gun to his girlfriend's head? Tim Parks. There were some other bad apples in his group of friends besides Freeman, PR.
 
If he succeeds it will be the stuff books are written about. I'm sure Roman is "licking his chops" that Wilson becomes a success story so he can write his first book!

My concern is this move will help Wilson if he succeeds in being a model citizen and player. If it doesn't it of course will be a black eye for the program...again.

How do you guys think this will impact recruiting? Seriously.
As a parent I think I would be pretty nervous about sending my kid to a program that has a player on the roster who was charged with murder and served time. Yes, Wilson was aquitted but for crying out loud, innocent or not he served hard time. I think I might be a bit nervous dropping my 18 yr old wet behind the ears son off at the dorms in his freshman year and driving off back home.
 
IMO, this will only have a happy ending if he stays out of trouble AND gets his degree. He's three semesters away, so if he wants to play in the NFL, then I highly doubt he will graduate and could hurt the APR.

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/article_4d4dc498-8f0b-11df-88f7-001cc4c002e0.html
 
Well regardless of all the hearsay, the decision is made.

Either A) The season goes by without incident, maybe he shines, has a shot at the pros, and ten years from now a movie is made. Or B) a fight breaks out, or he gets caught with pot, or a DUI, or whatever, and he is removed from the team. A bunch of people on here say "I told you so", and that's the last we hear of him.

I don't think anyone here can see the future, and only one person has claimed to actually personally have been in touch with Wilson since his incarceration and can speak for his current state of character.
 
montanasports said:
If he succeeds it will be the stuff books are written about. I'm sure Roman is "licking his chops" that Wilson becomes a success story so he can write his first book!

My concern is this move will help Wilson if he succeeds in being a model citizen and player. If it doesn't it of course will be a black eye for the program...again.

How do you guys think this will impact recruiting? Seriously.
As a parent I think I would be pretty nervous about sending my kid to a program that has a player on the roster who was charged with murder and served time. Yes, Wilson was aquitted but for crying out loud, innocent or not he served hard time. I think I might be a bit nervous dropping my 18 yr old wet behind the ears son off at the dorms in his freshman year and driving off back home.
So we're beyond guilty until proven innocent into the realm of guilty even after proven innocent? He served hard time because of failures with the system.
 
montanasports said:
If he succeeds it will be the stuff books are written about. I'm sure Roman is "licking his chops" that Wilson becomes a success story so he can write his first book!

My concern is this move will help Wilson if he succeeds in being a model citizen and player. If it doesn't it of course will be a black eye for the program...again.

How do you guys think this will impact recruiting? Seriously.
As a parent I think I would be pretty nervous about sending my kid to a program that has a player on the roster who was charged with murder and served time. Yes, Wilson was aquitted but for crying out loud, innocent or not he served hard time. I think I might be a bit nervous dropping my 18 yr old wet behind the ears son off at the dorms in his freshman year and driving off back home.


No one impact at all on recruiting. He didn't serve "hard time". He was in the LA County Jail, awaiting his various trials.
 
So we're beyond guilty until proven innocent into the realm of guilty even after proven innocent? He served hard time because of failures with the system.

Silenoz...How do you think the system failed? The judicial process is not always fast.

I am not painting Wilson with a guilty brush. The point I was trying to make was that Wilson has a lot of baggage. So back to my initial question.

Do people think it will have an impact on parents and their son's choosing to come to UM?
 
As much as I hate this decision, the decision has been made. Jimmy Wilson is once again a member of the Missoula community. How can he become a positive one? I feel he needs to go above and beyond what the typical college athlete does in terms of community service. The University needs to publicize these acts and Jimmy cannot slip up. Put him in charge of the Christmas toy drive, get him talking to kids in local schools about his story. He HAS to be a leader on this team and in the community. If he simply comes back and checks in, gets his degree and checks out, I will still think this is a failed experiment. This guy needs to atone for his past in Missoula and PROVE that he has changed. If Jimmy can become a positive part of Missoula society then all of the guys on Jimmy's jock right now because he's a great CB can stop crusading on his behalf because he will have EARNED his respect from the majority on the Missoula community, not just the jock sniffers of EGriz.
 
montanasports said:
So we're beyond guilty until proven innocent into the realm of guilty even after proven innocent? He served hard time because of failures with the system.

Silenoz...How do you think the system failed? The judicial process is not always fast.

I am not painting Wilson with a guilty brush. The point I was trying to make was that Wilson has a lot of baggage. So back to my initial question.

Do people think it will have an impact on parents and their son's choosing to come to UM?
Let me rephrase that; it didn't fail, he just suffered through it's (expected) shortcomings
 
PlayerRep said:
mtfbchamps said:
Listen, no one ever really gets the truth on these things. I am not so sure that the version you got was the 100% truth and I am not so sure his version was the 100% truth. Nobody knows for sure what happens when alcohol is involved and tempers flare. What we do know is JW had shown a pattern of violence and hungout with some questionable characters in his time at UM, which if anyone is disputing, they are naive. I have no problem with defending himself in CA, the other guy sounded like scum and society is probably better off without him, but I hope jail has changed JW for the better. I don't think he will be a problem again and good luck Jimmy.

I disagree with your characterization of Wilson. We do not all know what you said. A group of UM football players, including Wilson, got into too many skirmishes in or around bars. However, there have been skirmishes and bar fights involving UM athletes for years. As for questionable characters, other than perhaps Freeman, who certainly got into alot of trouble in Missoula, I suspect your statement is a gross exaggeration.
I disagree with your characterization of Wilson. We do not all know what you said. A group of UM football players, including Wilson, got into too many skirmishes in or around bars. However, there have been skirmishes and bar fights involving UM athletes for years.
You just literally defined my "pattern of violence", too many skirmishes in or around the bars. And really, we should give him free pass on his behavior because the 96' team got in some fights back in the day? The university should be trying to change a history of bar violence not use it to condone current players actions.
As for questionable characters, other than perhaps Freeman, who certainly got into alot of trouble in Missoula, I suspect your statement is a gross exaggeration.
Sure it is. Tim Parks has already been mentioned in this thread. I also would be very, very suprised if he didn't hangout with Coleman and Pate at all. I guess that if you want to believe that JW didn't associate with the same people Freeman did, both on the team and off, that is your prerogative. I think it is unrealistic though.
 
Jesus listen to you drama queens. Hard time? Sitting in jail for two years with the presumed innocent isn't hard time. It ain't summer camp, but it's a hell of a lot different than the convicted felon culture of prison.

And what's this crap about atonement? How many of you have made grand gestures of atonement for the a beat down you handed out as a 20 year old?
You grow up and you move on. Jimmy doesn't owe you shit.
 
montanasports said:
If he succeeds it will be the stuff books are written about. I'm sure Roman is "licking his chops" that Wilson becomes a success story so he can write his first book!

My concern is this move will help Wilson if he succeeds in being a model citizen and player. If it doesn't it of course will be a black eye for the program...again.

How do you guys think this will impact recruiting? Seriously.
As a parent I think I would be pretty nervous about sending my kid to a program that has a player on the roster who was charged with murder and served time. Yes, Wilson was aquitted but for crying out loud, innocent or not he served hard time. I think I might be a bit nervous dropping my 18 yr old wet behind the ears son off at the dorms in his freshman year and driving off back home.

If you're nervous about sending a kid off to college because of one student out of 14,000, then your child should probably never leave home, let alone, live in Missoula. JW is small fish compared to some of the people you run into during your dorm and college life.
 
griz4life said:
And what's this crap about atonement? How many of you have made grand gestures of atonement for the a beat down you handed out as a 20 year old?
You grow up and you move on. Jimmy doesn't you shit.

Couldn't agree more. The difference in character one attains between you're college years and mid-20's is drastic.

But Griz4life, I do disagree on the whole notion that jail isn't hard time. In fact, almost every convict will tell you that extended stints in local/county lockups are the HARDEST time. They aren't built to house prisoners for long stretches, but end up doing so due to the slow wheels of the justice system.
 
Jimmy Wilson must be guilty of something because he supposedly associated with people who were rumored to have done some bad things.

Let’s see, did I miss anything?
 
JW is small fish compared to some of the people you run into during your dorm and college life.

Titleist: really?...well that is a relief!

Glad there is agreement that recruiting won't be affected by any of this recent press.

Like I said I am hoping Wilson does redeem himself. Get a degree and move on in a postive manner in his life be it in the pros or not.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Jimmy Wilson must be guilty of something because he supposedly associated with people who were rumored to have done some bad things.

Let’s see, did I miss anything?

Yeah, I met Evel Knievel once, so I guess I half-heartedly tried to fly over the Snake River in a rocket cycle, too.

Funny, you'd think I'd remember something like that....;)
 
mtfbchamps said:
You just literally defined my "pattern of violence", too many skirmishes in or around the bars. And really, we should give him free pass on his behavior because the 96' team got in some fights back in the day? The university should be trying to change a history of bar violence not use it to condone current players actions.
As for questionable characters, other than perhaps Freeman, who certainly got into alot of trouble in Missoula, I suspect your statement is a gross exaggeration.
Sure it is. Tim Parks has already been mentioned in this thread. I also would be very, very suprised if he didn't hangout with Coleman and Pate at all. I guess that if you want to believe that JW didn't associate with the same people Freeman did, both on the team and off, that is your prerogative. I think it is unrealistic though.

In my parlance, getting into a few too many skirmishes in or around bars is NOT a "pattern of violence". I don't excuse it, but it's not anymore serious than what alot of people, including some athletes, do and have done in Missoula for years.

I see that you basically admitted that you have no back-up for your assertion regarding hanging out with too many questionable people. Jeez, all of these guys were on the team at one time. People hang out with the teammates all the time, and it can't be avoided.

Maybe you should find a new theme other than coming on egriz to anonymous diss UM defensive backs.
 
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