Welcome back Jimmy Wilson

[PlayerRep]

Good comment, Grizatheart, and agreed.

As I said, the university, athletic dept and coaches already took into account all of the factors and history, including the stuff in that trashy Missoulian article, and didn't believe or discounted most or much of it. In fact, I know the athletic dept and coaches were discounted much of what was in the article at the time.

I find it interesting that some people won't or can't face reality. No matter what the actions and evidence to the contrary, they keep saying they're right and the rest of the world is wrong. They always seem to think they know more than the people who are closest to the action, who run the show or who have gathered the facts.

The BS that came out on JW after his arrest just kept growing, rumors were flying everywhere, and then some people started believing all the rumors. Again, not saying Wilson or any number of the current or former Griz are or were angels.

Wilson is in a great position, alright. He has marks like you to bleed dry.

Get all you can, while you can Jimmy!

I would take Wilson over you as a person anytime.

 

[GrizSpartan]

Let JW write his own last chapter. I would lay money that he shows up to Missoula very businesslike and conducts himself in a very adult manner. He endured something that no poster on this board has. He has a second chance to finish the education and football career that he started after spending 2 years behind bars for something that he was found not guilty of. It sounds to me like he spent enough time thinking about what he wanted to do and how he wanted to do it. He was asked to enroll at Central Washington right away but said he was not ready. Something tells me that he will show up ready to bring his lunch box every day, play with a controlled recklessness and become a role model. If he doesn't he is the guy that has to look at himself in the mirror everyday and say to himself I blew that chance of a life time not once but twice. I am sorry, but I see him leaving here a success story.

This is a great post. I hope that the bet you proposed turns to gold for him. Thanks for the positive spin!!

 

[I'mHuntinBobKats]

O.M.G. WOW. THIS IS HUGE. WELCOME BACK JIMMY. WE LOVE YOU.

 

[I'mHuntinBobKats]

I wonder if he will be scholarship or not. I assume not, given the situation.

is this guy for real? jimmy will have a scholarship and a starting corner position.

 

[HighLineGRIZ]

I'm surprised. Jimmy does deserve a second chance, but I'm surprised our program is the one giving it to him. He was a problem while he was in Missoula the first time, at least when he went downtown. Honestly, I was happy to see him leave Missoula because of all the trouble he caused while he was here. However, I believe in second chances and hope that this whole ordeal has humbled him. If he is as any good as he was, our secondary just got much much better.

Wilson was never arrested or charged with anything in Missoula, according to the Missoulian. While perhaps not an angel, Wilson was not a "problem" in Missoula, either in general or downtown. Scores of UM athletes over the years have had much bigger issues in Missoula including problems with the law. This BS coming from unsubstantiated rumors and anonymous posters on the Internet (including some with particular axes to grind) needs to stop. Wilson was generally like by the coaches and those in the athletic dept and was known to have a terrific work ethic. That's why UM supported him in his petition to the ncaa and is welcoming him back.

I have no problem with you defending him, but facts are that he, along with his group of his friends, beat the living crap out of my friend for nothing more that talking to a girl. I'm not the type of person to spread rumors and usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but Jimmy maliciously attacked him. I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory against Jimmy. That's what happened and thats the type of things that hurt his reputation while he was down here. Being a common patroner downtown a couple years ago, I witnessed Jimmy's attitude frequently. All I can say is that I hope he has changed. If he truthfully has, I'm happy that he has been given a second chance.

 

[zulacatfan]

Moron. All these Johnny-come-latelies are stupid. Never said a damn thing until long after. You'd have to be stupid to believe that garbage.

Whatever Mr. Naive. I can tell you that I saw him and a few buddies jump a guy outside of Stocks in 2006. Watching boots to the head don't really lead me to discount "that garbage". Hearsay and circumstanstial evidence are just that, but if you hear and see enough of it, and you still can't fathom that any of it could be true, you are the stupid one. Stick your head in the sand some more.

Ill second that mtfbchamps, I saw the same thing you did...

 

[bigtyme]

Ill second that mtfbchamps, I saw the same thing you did...

I can assure you that if Jimmy Wilson is not drinking alcohol and can avoid his potential nemesis of being downtown he will be fine in Missoula. If and when Jimmy lives the typical party scene in Missoula he probably won't last the whole year because he will find trouble and/or trouble will find him.

 

[IdaGriz01]

I have no problem with you defending him, but facts are that he, along with his group of his friends, beat the living crap out of my friend for nothing more that talking to a girl. I'm not the type of person to spread rumors and usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but Jimmy maliciously attacked him. I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory against Jimmy. That's what happened and thats the type of things that hurt his reputation while he was down here. Being a common patroner downtown a couple years ago, I witnessed Jimmy's attitude frequently. All I can say is that I hope he has changed. If he truthfully has, I'm happy that he has been given a second chance.

It's a given that he has changed. Doing time -- and he did do time, even if it was "just" waiting on the trial(s) -- changes a person. Sometimes it's for the better, sometimes not so much. The fact that he held to his football dreams is a good sign, IMHO. Like most on this board, I hope he has changed for the better, and wish him only the best.

 

[grizaremoregooder]

I am shocked that he is back-this was one of the darkest moments in Griz history when this happened. Hopfully he will take advantage of this second chance he has been given-he was a hell of a good corner-he will help a ton if he is anything like he was.

 

[Grizinmyyard]

I happen to be one of those moderate Montanans who don't know what to think about his one. On one hand I think the guy deserves a second chance. After all, he was acquitted by 12 of his California peers. Twice. Sort of.

On the other hand, I think we still don't know what went on when this incident occurred. Wasn't there a former Griz on the scene at the time, who would not cooperate with law enforcement that day?

I remain skeptical. A human died that day. Does that matter?

I wish you well Jimmy.

I hope you do well in your new life.

 

[Hammer]

I happen to be one of those moderate Montanans who don't know what to think about his one. On one hand I think the guy deserves a second chance. After all, he was acquitted by 12 of his California peers. Twice. Sort of.

On the other hand, I think we still don't know what went on when this incident occurred. Wasn't there a former Griz on the scene at the time, who would not cooperate with law enforcement that day?

I remain skeptical. A human died that day. Does that matter?

I wish you well Jimmy.

I hope you do well in your new life.

A human did die that day, a piece of shit human at that. He repeatedly beat Jimmys aunt and had urinated on her the day he died. Good riddance.

The guy pulled the gun on Jimmy, Jimmy didn't go to the crime scene with anything other than his fists. The cops wouldn't do anything about it and Jimmy was sick of it. He did what most people would do if someone was beating their loved one, he went to defend her. What happened after that could have happened to any one of us.

 

[Richard Cranium]

I happen to be one of those moderate Montanans who don't know what to think about his one. On one hand I think the guy deserves a second chance. After all, he was acquitted by 12 of his California peers. Twice. Sort of.

On the other hand, I think we still don't know what went on when this incident occurred. Wasn't there a former Griz on the scene at the time, who would not cooperate with law enforcement that day?

I remain skeptical. A human died that day. Does that matter?

I wish you well Jimmy.

I hope you do well in your new life.

A human did die that day, a piece of shit human at that. He repeatedly beat Jimmys aunt and had urinated on her the day he died. Good riddance.

The guy pulled the gun on Jimmy, Jimmy didn't go to the crime scene with anything other than his fists. The cops wouldn't do anything about it and Jimmy was sick of it. He did what most people would do if someone was beating their loved one, he went to defend her. What happened after that could have happened to any one of us.

The Animal was a habitual offender. He was beating Wilson's Aunt then stomping on her head until she died and then pissed on her. All the while Jimmy Wilson looked on! Let any known dirt bag in.......... "ANY TOWN MONTANA" do that and lets see what any on looker whould have done any differant!!!!!

 

[PlayerRep]

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I have no problem with you defending him, but facts are that he, along with his group of his friends, beat the living crap out of my friend for nothing more that talking to a girl. I'm not the type of person to spread rumors and usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but Jimmy maliciously attacked him. I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory against Jimmy. That's what happened and thats the type of things that hurt his reputation while he was down here. Being a common patroner downtown a couple years ago, I witnessed Jimmy's attitude frequently. All I can say is that I hope he has changed. If he truthfully has, I'm happy that he has been given a second chance.

BS to your version of what happened--because that's not what happened. After the initial minor skirmish, the white guys got reinforcements, came back and surrounded a black football player (not Wilson). This is where the fight started, and when your buddy went down. Both sides were at fault, and Wilson was not the main guy in the fight. I have no problem with your defending your friend, but why can't you be honest about what occurred--or do you not even know what occurred.

 

[GrizLA]

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24368&start=125[/url]

Now DJ is making comments and associations that appear to be based on prejudice and are racist.

The article didn't say whose car Wilson was driving. Wilson's grandmother apparently has some money, and I assume she may have paid for his defense attorney. Wilson started working after he got acquitted.

Why are you associating the house break-in guys with Wilson? Because all of the players or ex-players involved were black? Freeman was Wilson's friend, but who says the others were his friends or associates. Those weren't the guys he hung out with most, or went downtown with. Sheldon didn't even arrive in Missoula until after Wilson went to jail. Wilson probably never even met him. Who says he even knew Dirty, who wasn't a player. The break-in occurred almost 6 months after Wilson left Missouala, and you're associating Wilson with the break-in?

Your comments are completely inappropriate and offbase.

these days most kids lease cars and that is not expensive...lots of judgmental jerks here..I always thought a college education opened the world not make it smaller....why not just tatoo this guy's head so he can be labeled for the rest of his life!

 

[mtfbchamps]

BS to your version of what happened--because that's not what happened. After the initial minor skirmish, the white guys got reinforcements, came back and surrounded a black football player (not Wilson). This is where the fight started, and when your buddy went down. Both sides were at fault, and Wilson was not the main guy in the fight. I have no problem with your defending your friend, but why can't you be honest about what occurred--or do you not even know what occurred.

Listen, no one ever really gets the truth on these things. I am not so sure that the version you got was the 100% truth and I am not so sure his version was the 100% truth. Nobody knows for sure what happens when alcohol is involved and tempers flare. What we do know is JW had shown a pattern of violence and hungout with some questionable characters in his time at UM, which if anyone is disputing, they are naive. I have no problem with defending himself in CA, the other guy sounded like scum and society is probably better off without him, but I hope jail has changed JW for the better. I don't think he will be a problem again and good luck Jimmy.

 

[djollieballs]

Now DJ is making comments and associations that appear to be based on prejudice and are racist.

The article didn't say whose car Wilson was driving. Wilson's grandmother apparently has some money, and I assume she may have paid for his defense attorney. Wilson started working after he got acquitted.

Why are you associating the house break-in guys with Wilson? Because all of the players or ex-players involved were black? Freeman was Wilson's friend, but who says the others were his friends or associates. Those weren't the guys he hung out with most, or went downtown with. Sheldon didn't even arrive in Missoula until after Wilson went to jail. Wilson probably never even met him. Who says he even knew Dirty, who wasn't a player. The break-in occurred almost 6 months after Wilson left Missouala, and you're associating Wilson with the break-in?

Your comments are completely inappropriate and offbase.
these days most kids lease cars and that is not expensive...lots of judgmental jerks here..I always thought a college education opened the world not make it smaller....why not just tatoo this guy's head so he can be labeled for the rest of his life!

See, here's the thing LA, the reporter went out of his way to mention what king of car Wilson was driving, twice. This kid is obviously a very good writer and felt that the make and model of the cars was important to his readers.

It also actually is expensive to lease and insure a luxury car. If it wasn't, everyone would drive them. Is Jimmy's grandmother "rich"? Maybe she was, she certainly isn't after footing the bill for a multi year first degree murder defense. What does that run, PR? If the lawer is any good (he was) it costs several million dollars. Hmmmm......

Much like Jimmy's aunt was allegedly abused, I feel like Jimmy is abusing our fans by preying on their vicarious obsession with Griz football. Like the woman in an abusive relationship, you defend the abuser after every black eye. You tell everyone, it won't happen again, he's changed, he's coming back to win a NC, he loves us.

But that's what happens in abusive relationships, you tend to miss the forest for the trees. You miss things like Wilson being banned from pretty much every bar in Missoula, you miss things like his buddy Q-Free (who was with him at the killing) being sent to prison along with four Griz teammates for multiple violent felonies, you miss the subsequent distraction from said home invasion that derailed the championship aspirations of the most talented team to ever suit up for the Griz a team that sent around 10 players to the NFL, you miss the fact that Wilson hasn't played in a football game since the UMASS game and probably won't come anywhere near the field this year.

The risk/reward ratio is so out of wack here that it hurts my head just thinking about it.

This is going to end so badly. What do you guys think the NCAA is going to do if they end up with egg on their face because of this? Stupid. Stupid move by everyone involved.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Djballsbutnobrains,

You are an enigma wrapped in a crumpled piece of yesterday's newspaper that has "riddle" written on it. On one hand you advocate being so risk averse as to not give any football player a second chance for virtually anything. And at the very same time you propose that the Griz move up and risk the entire program.

You expect proof of any claim that doesn't match your view yet offer only "you're skeerd" -- as in one five year old daring another to eat a bug -- as the the real reason others don't want the Griz to move. I would offer that you're scared that some of these players might actually succeed where you once failed.

About the only thing that I can conclude is that you really don't like or trust people all that much and have overly inflated sense of self-worth based on a pack of lies that you tell yourself. Are you a politican perhaps?

 

[kemajic]

Wilson hasn't played in a football game since the UMASS game and probably won't come anywhere near the field this year.

I follow most of your stuff with a smile and usually appreciate the Devil's Deciple role you play. But you are dead wrong on this one. The man is 23, not 35. His body is far more mature than it was when he was 18 and a star CB. You have forgotten how good he was. Breske will run more bump and run and this guy is a far more physical corner than any other we have, particularly TJ.

 

[PlayerRep]

BS to your version of what happened--because that's not what happened. After the initial minor skirmish, the white guys got reinforcements, came back and surrounded a black football player (not Wilson). This is where the fight started, and when your buddy went down. Both sides were at fault, and Wilson was not the main guy in the fight. I have no problem with your defending your friend, but why can't you be honest about what occurred--or do you not even know what occurred.

Listen, no one ever really gets the truth on these things. I am not so sure that the version you got was the 100% truth and I am not so sure his version was the 100% truth. Nobody knows for sure what happens when alcohol is involved and tempers flare. What we do know is JW had shown a pattern of violence and hungout with some questionable characters in his time at UM, which if anyone is disputing, they are naive. I have no problem with defending himself in CA, the other guy sounded like scum and society is probably better off without him, but I hope jail has changed JW for the better. I don't think he will be a problem again and good luck Jimmy.

I disagree with your characterization of Wilson. We do not all know what you said. A group of UM football players, including Wilson, got into too many skirmishes in or around bars. However, there have been skirmishes and bar fights involving UM athletes for years. As for questionable characters, other than perhaps Freeman, who certainly got into alot of trouble in Missoula, I suspect your statement is a gross exaggeration.

 

[PlayerRep]

It also actually is expensive to lease and insure a luxury car. If it wasn't, everyone would drive them. Is Jimmy's grandmother "rich"? Maybe she was, she certainly isn't after footing the bill the a multi year first degree murder defense. What does that run, PR? If the lawer is any good (he was) it costs several million dollars. Hmmmm......

Much like Jimmy's aunt was allegedly abused, I feel like Jimmy is abusing our fans by preying on their vicarious obsession with Griz football. Like the woman in an abusive relationship, you defend the abuser after every black eye. You tell everyone, it won't happen again, he's changed, he's coming back to win a NC, he loves us.

But that's what happens in abusive relationships, you tend to miss the forest for the trees. You miss things like Wilson being banned from pretty much every bar in Missoula, you miss things like his buddy Q-Free (who was with him at the killing) being sent to prison along with four Griz teammates for multiple violent felonies, you miss the subsequent distraction from said home invasion that derailed the championship aspirations of the most talented team to ever suit up for the Griz a team that sent around 10 players to the NFL, you miss the fact that Wilson hasn't played in a football game since the UMASS game and probably won't come anywhere near the field this year.

The risk/reward ratio is so out of wack here that it hurts my head just thinking about it.

This is going to end so badly. What do you guys think the NCAA is going to do if they end up with egg on their face because of this? Stupid. Stupid move by everyone involved.

It doesn't cost millions of dollars to defend a murder case, in fact not even close. Often a murder case is done on a fixed fee basis, paid upfront.

Freeman and 3 other former Griz, not 4, went to jail briefly over the house break-in. From reading the articles, it looked like most were to spend only several months in jail.

As Kem stated, Wilson will be able to play and contribute immediately. It may take him awhile to work back into top playing shape, but I think he'll probably be better than he ever was by the end of the season.

Wilson was not banned from practically every bar in Missoula. Total BS (just like virtually everything you say on the board).