Weber better then Montana?

[alabamagrizzly]

Wasting my life away reading Bleacher Report and came across this.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ing-up-and-coming-college-basketball-programs
I guess the good people at BR believe Weber is better then Montana because they've had a lottery pick/nba roy. I did a little research and I don't believe that's true. Here's what I came up with. I went back over the last 5 years and compared overall records, conference records, head to head records, all conference selections, awards and tourney births.

2012-13
UM 25-7, 19-1, 2-1
4 AllBSC, 2 1st team
MVP, DPY, CotY
NCAA, loss 2nd rd, 0-1
WSU 29-7, 18-2, 1-2
4 AllBSC, 2 1st team
Newcomer
Collegeinsider.com, loss in champ, 4-1

2011-12
UM 25-7, 15-1, 2-1
4 AllBSC, 2 1st team
DPY, CotY
NCAA, loss 2nd rd, 0-1
WSU 25-7, 14-2, 1-2
3 AllBSC, 1 1st team
MVP
Collegeinsider.com, loss in 2nd rd, 1-1

2010-11
UM 21-11, 12-4, 2-1
3 AllBSC, 2 1st team
DPY
College Basketball Invitational, loss 1st rd, 0-1
WSU 18-14, 11-5, 1-2
4 AllBSC, 2 1st team
Newcomer, Frosh
College Basketball Invitational, loss 1st rd, 0-1

2009-10
UM 22-10, 10-6, 2-1
3 AllBSC, 1 1st team
no awards
NCAA, loss 1st rd, 0-1
WSU 20-11, 13-3, 1-2
3 AllBSC, 1 1st team
MVP, Newcomer
NIT, loss 1st rd, 0-1

2008-09
UM 17-12, 11-5, 1-1
2 AllBSC, 1 1st team
Newcomer
WSU 21-10, 15-1, 1-1
4 AllBSC, 2 1st team
MVP, DPY, Frosh
NIT, loss 1st rd, 0-1

2008-13
UM 110-47, 67-17, 9-4
16 AllBSC, 8 1st team
MVP, DPYx2, CotYx2, Newcomer
NCAAx3 0-3, College Basketball invitational 0-1
WSU 113-49, 71-13, 4-9
18 AllBSC, 8 1st team
MVPx3, DPY, Froshx2, Newcomerx3
NIT 0-2, Collegeinsider.comx2 5-2 1xrunner up, College Basketball Invitational 0-1; 5-5

Most every stat is very similar except for two. Weber has one somewhat misleading advantage in post season record. You have to take into account the tournaments played in and 3 of Montana's tourneys was the NCAA's. That is largely because of the other major deference. Montana owns a decidedly distinct advantage with a 9-4 record and an undeniable 4-0 in Big Sky tournament play. To me that leaves no discussion of who is better. No question Montana is.

 

[BelierPeaux]

Eh, it's year to year. Sure, UM has had better overall seasons in recent history, but this year UM is going to be hard pressed to be "better" than Weber. What I am pleased about is that UM has been better than Weber when it counts. Weber is a better basketball school, though, and there is no doubt about that.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

Weber has the better program, but Montana has been the better team over the last few years, and hve won when it mattered.


The two programs are very similar right now, both very good up and coming programs, both have good head coaches, and both have strong fanbases that with winning will only continue to grow. And the matchups between Weber and Montana in hoops are going to start catching peoples eye, like they did last year.

 

[hawkssb04]

Eh, it's year to year. Sure, UM has had better overall seasons in recent history, but this year UM is going to be hard pressed to be "better" than Weber. What I am pleased about is that UM has been better than Weber when it counts. Weber is a better basketball school, though, and there is no doubt about that.

I couldn't agree more. At least in the last several season, WSU is always dubbed "the team to beat" in the Big Sky, but they never can beat Montana when it counts. Does Weber have more talent and better recruiting classes every season? Probably. But until you beat the champs, you aren't the champs. That goes for any sport.