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Griz1 said:
grizzlyjournal said:
Just posted today on the ESPN recruiting board is a purported Montana offer to 6'-8" power forward Joe Boyd from Chaparral H. S. in Scottsdale, AZ. I am not an espn insider, so I can't get the complete player profile.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/evaluation/_/id/125843/joe-boyd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If I read it correctly he has verbally committed to Drake. That doesn't mean much until signing date but usually it is an advantage to the team he has verbally committed to.
There are numerous blog, etc. posts that Boyd has decommited from Drake. Hopefully, the recruiting mysteries will clear up soon. Perhaps he is the Arizona player mentioned earlier in this thread.
 
Good to hear of a few bigs coming into play. It would be great to get one of these guys, and add a solid walk on. I wonder if we could add 2, if we have any unheard of defections. I like the little I read on Boyd, sounds like he would help us with scoring in the paint.

I wonder how well Andy Martin and Eric Hutchison are progressing so far in the off season?
 
There are numerous blog, etc. posts that Boyd has decommited from Drake. Hopefully, the recruiting mysteries will clear up soon. Perhaps he is the Arizona player mentioned earlier in this thread.

Thanks GrizWhiz.

I was excited to read about him when grizzlyjournal mentioned him and likewise disappointed when I saw the Drake commitment. I know it is a revolving door process until we get a commitment. I do think that this staff is pretty good at keeping someone once they have committed to us.
 
Remember Drake fired their head coach last month and hired Ray Giacoletti only a few weeks back. That could be a reason for Boyd to re-open his recruitment.
 
grizzlyjournal said:
Just posted today on the ESPN recruiting board is a purported Montana offer to 6'-8" power forward Joe Boyd from Chaparral H. S. in Scottsdale, AZ. I am not an espn insider, so I can't get the complete player profile.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/evaluation/_/id/125843/joe-boyd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So he has decommitted from NMSU and Drake?

Strengths:
Boyd is a solid looking power forward with a nice frame for the Division I level. He has face-up skills and is a strong competitor. He can score down low and has solid footwork while maneuvering around his defender. In addition, he can step out and nail the 17-foot jump shot with regularity. He plays the game right way and with a great attitude that is infectious.
Weaknesses:
Boyd is a solid athlete with decent bounce and quickness, but he'll need to continue to work on those areas. His post game is solid, but he needs to develop a go-to move as well as a counter move to keep defenses honest. While posting up he needs to continue to learn to stay low (bend knees) to get more on balance against stronger defenders.
Bottom Line:
Boyd is a solid 4-man prospect for the mid-major level. He has the frame, skills, and approach to be an affective player at the Division I level.

Notes
Travel Team: Arizona Aces...Previously committed to New Mexico State...
 
Hear a rumor that the Griz did not offer Dimakos while he was on campus, but was told the Griz had some decisions to make and would let him know shortly.

Very positive feeling about the big guys
 
Mslacat said:
Hear a rumor that the Griz did not offer Dimakos while he was on campus, but was told the Griz had some decisions to make and would let him know shortly.

Very positive feeling about the big guys
Big guys?? Were there more than one? Also,by positive feelings, do you mean it was mutual and these "big guys" are ready to accept an offer?
 
GrizWhiz said:
Mslacat said:
Hear a rumor that the Griz did not offer Dimakos while he was on campus, but was told the Griz had some decisions to make and would let him know shortly.

Very positive feeling about the big guys
Big guys?? Were there more than one? Also,by positive feelings, do you mean it was mutual and these "big guys" are ready to accept an offer?

OK. Last week I had it from two solid sources that the Griz would have 2 JC Big men and 1 JC wing in last week end (Apr 26-27) on official trips. I heard from a very solid intel that Jared Dimakos (a 6-5 wing) was on campus for an official but did not get an offer, yet. I have it on almost equally solid intel that Kaj Sherman (a 7-0 265lb center) was also on campus this past week end. Sherman I am told had an offer on the table before the campus visit. UM main competition right now for Sherman is U Texas San Antonio who has become a landing spot for numerous North Idaho JC (where Sherman is from) products. Montana though is a lot closer to Mercer Island Washington where Sherman's family is from. There is talk on this board and some other internet outlets that the Griz have become very involved with & offered Joe Boyd a (6-9 forward/center), but I can not verify whether he was the other big guy in this week end. Boyd is a high school player and I was told the other big man was a JC.

I am told the Griz feel very good about the prospects of signing one of these big men. First to commit gets the scholarship I would guess.

As always all rumors.
 
I am hoping Sherman and Boyd want to be GRIZ. IF that were the case, I think we would have to make room for them. We are in dire need of post depth. It would make sense to release 2 players from scholarships. I have my idea and opinion of whom, but will not voice it here. I am sure a few of you can logically figure out who those would be.
 
mtgrizrule said:
I am hoping Sherman and Boyd want to be GRIZ. IF that were the case, I think we would have to make room for them. We are in dire need of post depth. It would make sense to release 2 players from scholarships. I have my idea and opinion of whom, but will not voice it here. I am sure a few of you can logically figure out who those would be.
Really dude? You have spent the last month lobbying for Emerson to lose his job. Then you got on the dump Henderson bandwagon. Then just yesterday you were hinting that Deshields should be gone, but now you are above such conjecture?

I still can't figure why folks would be willing to trade one depth problem for another. Bringing in two bigs would give us 3 centers and 3 power forwards with only two of them being underclassmen. Tinkle has never been big on bench minutes so are we really better off dumping our great team chemistry in order to have bigs sitting on the end of the bench instead of backcourt players?

I don't know if you watch basketball but the era of the big man is over. I don't think the defending NBA champion Heat even have a true center on their roster. The current NCAA champs were a very small team. They had one good big and one board eating 6'6" kid and a bunch of small guards. As a team they were much smaller than we were this year.

Two years ago we had one of the best centers to ever come through town. Our power forward was 7 feet tall and we had a couple nice bench guys. That team won 21 games and missed the big dance. The "small" team we had this year won 25 games, went to the tournament and was incredible fun to watch. Let's not fly into a panic and dump the lot of them because they are 3 inches shorter than you think they should be.
 
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mtgrizrule said:
I am hoping Sherman and Boyd want to be GRIZ. IF that were the case, I think we would have to make room for them. We are in dire need of post depth. It would make sense to release 2 players from scholarships. I have my idea and opinion of whom, but will not voice it here. I am sure a few of you can logically figure out who those would be.
Really dude? You have spent the last month lobbying for Emerson to lose his job. Then you got on the dump Henderson bandwagon. Then just yesterday you were hinting that Deshields should be gone, but now you are above such conjecture?

I still can't figure why folks would be willing to trade one depth problem for another. Bringing in two bigs would give us 3 centers and 3 power forwards with only two of them being underclassmen. Tinkle has never been big on bench minutes so are we really better off dumping our great team chemistry in order to have bigs sitting on the end of the bench instead of backcourt players?

I don't know if you watch basketball but the era of the big man is over. I don't think the defending NBA champion Heat even have a true center on their roster. The current NCAA champs were a very small team. They had one good big and one board eating 6'6" kid and a bunch of small guards. As a team they were much smaller than we were this year.

Two years ago we had one of the best centers to ever come through town. Our power forward was 7 feet tall and we had a couple nice bench guys. That team won 21 games and missed the big dance. The "small" team we had this year won 25 games, went to the tournament and was incredible fun to watch. Let's not fly into a panic and dump the lot of them because they are 3 inches shorter than you think they should be.


Dude we have only 2 players who are true paint players, Hutchison and Martin. The others play the paint out of necessity. In case you have not noticed, take the time to check out what Weber State has back in the paint next season. We need paint help badly. Weisner and Coleman are not 4's or 5's. They are 3's. Wayne agrees we need to get bigger too. I am sure he does not want to pull scholarships, but it is likely to happen this year.

In an ideal world, no player should lose their scholarship, if they abide by rules set by the coaches. Unfortunately, in the world of college athletics, that is no longer the case. I never like seeing anyone lose a scholarship or have to find a new place to play. That is the reality of college athletics though.

By the way, go reread my post. I have not said I support either of them being gone. My posts referenced reasons why they might be gone if a decision is made by the staff to do that. Before jumping my butt for those things, feel free to snoop and find out who tends to be late for practices, etc? Feel free to find out how little tolerance Wayne has for off the court issues. He has high off the court expectations for his players. It pains him to have any player have off the court issues. He treats those kids like his own kids, and family. Don't believe me, fine, I don't care.

Maybe vest some time into getting to know the program, coaches, and players more, then maybe you could understand where my thinking is coming from.
 
mtgrizrule said:
temp said:
mtgrizrule said:
I am hoping Sherman and Boyd want to be GRIZ. IF that were the case, I think we would have to make room for them. We are in dire need of post depth. It would make sense to release 2 players from scholarships. I have my idea and opinion of whom, but will not voice it here. I am sure a few of you can logically figure out who those would be.
Really dude? You have spent the last month lobbying for Emerson to lose his job. Then you got on the dump Henderson bandwagon. Then just yesterday you were hinting that Deshields should be gone, but now you are above such conjecture?

I still can't figure why folks would be willing to trade one depth problem for another. Bringing in two bigs would give us 3 centers and 3 power forwards with only two of them being underclassmen. Tinkle has never been big on bench minutes so are we really better off dumping our great team chemistry in order to have bigs sitting on the end of the bench instead of backcourt players?

I don't know if you watch basketball but the era of the big man is over. I don't think the defending NBA champion Heat even have a true center on their roster. The current NCAA champs were a very small team. They had one good big and one board eating 6'6" kid and a bunch of small guards. As a team they were much smaller than we were this year.

Two years ago we had one of the best centers to ever come through town. Our power forward was 7 feet tall and we had a couple nice bench guys. That team won 21 games and missed the big dance. The "small" team we had this year won 25 games, went to the tournament and was incredible fun to watch. Let's not fly into a panic and dump the lot of them because they are 3 inches shorter than you think they should be.


Dude we have only 2 players who are true paint players, Hutchison and Martin. The others play the paint out of necessity. In case you have not noticed, take the time to check out what Weber State has back in the paint next season. We need paint help badly. Weisner and Coleman are not 4's or 5's. They are 3's. Wayne agrees we need to get bigger too. I am sure he does not want to pull scholarships, but it is likely to happen this year.

In an ideal world, no player should lose their scholarship, if they abide by rules set by the coaches. Unfortunately, in the world of college athletics, that is no longer the case. I never like seeing anyone lose a scholarship or have to find a new place to play. That is the reality of college athletics though.

By the way, go reread my post. I have not said I support either of them being gone. My posts referenced reasons why they might be gone if a decision is made by the staff to do that. Before jumping my butt for those things, feel free to snoop and find out who tends to be late for practices, etc? Feel free to find out how little tolerance Wayne has for off the court issues. He has high off the court expectations for his players. It pains him to have any player have off the court issues. He treats those kids like his own kids, and family. Don't believe me, fine, I don't care.

Maybe vest some time into getting to know the program, coaches, and players more, then maybe you could understand where my thinking is coming from.
For starters...sorry I jumped you again dude. I do like your in site and opinions but as you may have noticed I am a big cheerleader for "our" guys. I hate this time of year when we start saying we need to ax some of them. Especially after this year, like I said this team was a blast to watch so I have become too attached to them I guess.
I do know who you are talking about with the tardy issues and I too agree with how Tinks puts a lot into the off the court stuff. We both can agree on that one.
As for Weber...Bolomboy is a future NBA guy. We don't match up with him and we never will but this being a team game means we can scheme ways to beat teams and players even if we don't have an exact counterpart for them. Personally I love small ball and running right at a team full of bigs. They will block a few shots and probably out rebound us but we will wear them out and smoke them on the free throw line. It all works out. Just different brands of ball.
 
temp said:
mtgrizrule said:
temp said:
mtgrizrule said:
I am hoping Sherman and Boyd want to be GRIZ. IF that were the case, I think we would have to make room for them. We are in dire need of post depth. It would make sense to release 2 players from scholarships. I have my idea and opinion of whom, but will not voice it here. I am sure a few of you can logically figure out who those would be.
Really dude? You have spent the last month lobbying for Emerson to lose his job. Then you got on the dump Henderson bandwagon. Then just yesterday you were hinting that Deshields should be gone, but now you are above such conjecture?

I still can't figure why folks would be willing to trade one depth problem for another. Bringing in two bigs would give us 3 centers and 3 power forwards with only two of them being underclassmen. Tinkle has never been big on bench minutes so are we really better off dumping our great team chemistry in order to have bigs sitting on the end of the bench instead of backcourt players?

I don't know if you watch basketball but the era of the big man is over. I don't think the defending NBA champion Heat even have a true center on their roster. The current NCAA champs were a very small team. They had one good big and one board eating 6'6" kid and a bunch of small guards. As a team they were much smaller than we were this year.

Two years ago we had one of the best centers to ever come through town. Our power forward was 7 feet tall and we had a couple nice bench guys. That team won 21 games and missed the big dance. The "small" team we had this year won 25 games, went to the tournament and was incredible fun to watch. Let's not fly into a panic and dump the lot of them because they are 3 inches shorter than you think they should be.


Dude we have only 2 players who are true paint players, Hutchison and Martin. The others play the paint out of necessity. In case you have not noticed, take the time to check out what Weber State has back in the paint next season. We need paint help badly. Weisner and Coleman are not 4's or 5's. They are 3's. Wayne agrees we need to get bigger too. I am sure he does not want to pull scholarships, but it is likely to happen this year.

In an ideal world, no player should lose their scholarship, if they abide by rules set by the coaches. Unfortunately, in the world of college athletics, that is no longer the case. I never like seeing anyone lose a scholarship or have to find a new place to play. That is the reality of college athletics though.

By the way, go reread my post. I have not said I support either of them being gone. My posts referenced reasons why they might be gone if a decision is made by the staff to do that. Before jumping my butt for those things, feel free to snoop and find out who tends to be late for practices, etc? Feel free to find out how little tolerance Wayne has for off the court issues. He has high off the court expectations for his players. It pains him to have any player have off the court issues. He treats those kids like his own kids, and family. Don't believe me, fine, I don't care.

Maybe vest some time into getting to know the program, coaches, and players more, then maybe you could understand where my thinking is coming from.
For starters...sorry I jumped you again dude. I do like your in site and opinions but as you may have noticed I am a big cheerleader for "our" guys. I hate this time of year when we start saying we need to ax some of them. Especially after this year, like I said this team was a blast to watch so I have become too attached to them I guess.
I do know who you are talking about with the tardy issues and I too agree with how Tinks puts a lot into the off the court stuff. We both can agree on that one.
As for Weber...Bolomboy is a future NBA guy. We don't match up with him and we never will but this being a team game means we can scheme ways to beat teams and players even if we don't have an exact counterpart for them. Personally I love small ball and running right at a team full of bigs. They will block a few shots and probably out rebound us but we will wear them out and smoke them on the free throw line. It all works out. Just different brands of ball.

We agree on a lot. I too am high on Bolomboy. He was quite a find by Weber State.
I too like the style you are referring too. Wayne has yet to commit fully to that. As to why that is, your guess is as good as mine. Hard for me to question Wayne though, he is a great coach, and getting better every year.
 
I think the minute Tinkle signed Bradshaw, Emerson's days were numbered. Tinkle used a scholarship that opened up when a JC big man could not qualify for D-1 this fall to sign Bradshaw. That was a little fortunate this past January that he had a scholarship available. Now, though, he needs to sign a big man - basically to replace the one he lost this fall, where do you think that scholarship will come from? Most likely a perimeter player where he seems to have a log jam (over signed/committed) of players.

I know it looks like Tinkle will take a guards scholarship to sign a big man but in reality that guards scholarship was lost when he signed Bradshaw.
 
The discussion on the San Jose State and Cal State Fullerton boards seems to indicate that Boyd is down to those two schools. There is no mention of Montana. Of course this is simply message board discussion :roll: so who knows if there is any significance to this. One of the Cal State Fullerton posters said Boyd visited there in the last day or so.
 
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