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Upset Guesses (Sept 30)

What upsets are likely?

  • #12 North Dakota (2-1) at #1 SDSU (3-0)

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • South Dakota (2-1) at #2 NDSU (3-0)

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Elon (2-2) vs #5 William & Mary (4-0)

    Votes: 12 54.5%
  • Harvard (2-0) at #6 Holy Cross (3-1)

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Campbell (2-2) at #15 NC Central (3-1)

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Albany (2-2) vs #16 Villanova (3-1)

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Tenn. State (2-1) at #22 UT Martin (3-1)

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Bryant (2-2) at #24 Rhode Island (2-2)

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Total voters
    22

IdaGriz01

Well-known member
Only one ranked-vs-ranked matchup* among the choices, but it looks to be a good one. The other games feature ranked teams against what appear to be at least competitive opponents. Should be a good weekend.

* This week, I’ve gone back to avoiding Big Sky games, as I’ve usually done in the past.

Two choices are allowed and you can change your votes later if you want to.

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Commentary
South Dakota State has looked so impressive, it’s hard to pick against them, especially at home. Still, North Dakota is a tough team too. Their only loss was to FBS Boise State, which seems to be getting their act together.

South Dakota at NDSU is another game that is hard to pick as an upset, although we must keep in mind that the Yotes' only loss was to FBS Missouri. And it is the MVFC, after all, so this is definitely a candidate for “on any given Saturday.”

Although Elon did have a bad road loss at Gardner Webb, they didn’t lose that badly at FBS Wake Forest (which actually looks competitive this year, BTW). Their two wins look quite respectable and, in fact, tie them for the current lead in the CAA. Meanwhile, we cannot say that W&M has really been tested. Plus, the fact that Elon is at home improves the odds for an upset.

Early games involving an Ivy school are always a tough pick because you just don’t have enough results. As usual, Harvard looks pretty good. But we just don’t know. Conversely, the Crusaders have played nobody outside of their loss to weak FBS Boston College. Their three wins have been against opponents that have no wins at the D-I level. (One against an NAIA equivalent.) (This could be one of my picks :) .)

Campbell is “the new kid on the block” in the CAA so it’s difficult to judge the strength of their program. Their two losses were respectable and they scored a lot of points in their two wins. Of course, we also do not know how competitive NC Central really is. They got blown out by their FBS opponent, and one of their wins was over a mid-level D-II team. Neither opponent in their other two wins have won a game (one was perennial loser Mississippi Valley State).

Be aware that that Albany’s two losses were both on the road at FBS venues. Not particularly strong FBS opponents … and the Danes did not get blown out. So their record is misleading. Villanova looks good and has earned their ranking (the loss was to an FBS opponent). Still, Albany is better than their record shows, and they are at home.

Tennessee State is undefeated at the FCS level (blown out by FBS Notre Dame). Their wins were respectable and, at the moment, they lead this new Big South-OVC “conference” thing. Of course, UT Martin also got blown out by their FBS opponent (Georgia :o ). Plus, it has to be said that the Skyhawks have not played any FCS contenders. On that basis, this could be a pickum’.

Bryant (2-2) seems like an unlikely candidate to upset Rhode Island. Their schedule hasn’t been that tough, except for their loss to FBS UNLV. On the other hand, the Rhodies haven’t beat anybody impressive, and were dominated by Villanova.
 
I continue to say I’m not a fan of W&M being a top 5 team. They’ll likely win the CAA due to their pitiful schedule but I think Elon was their lone loss last season. Hopefully they can do it to them again.
 
CatsRback said:
I continue to say I’m not a fan of W&M being a top 5 team. They’ll likely win the CAA due to their pitiful schedule but I think Elon was their lone loss last season. Hopefully they can do it to them again.

Elon wins it this year, Bronson Yoder went out last week with what may be a season ending injury, either a broken collarbone or a separated shoulder, regardless he is not expected to be available this week.
 
CatsRback said:
I continue to say I’m not a fan of W&M being a top 5 team. They’ll likely win the CAA due to their pitiful schedule but I think Elon was their lone loss last season. Hopefully they can do it to them again.
I'm with you. With their undefeated record, the Tribe deserves to be ranked. But top-5? ... I don't think so. :(
 
The.Real.2506 said:
CatsRback said:
I continue to say I’m not a fan of W&M being a top 5 team. They’ll likely win the CAA due to their pitiful schedule but I think Elon was their lone loss last season. Hopefully they can do it to them again.

Elon wins it this year, Bronson Yoder went out last week with what may be a season ending injury, either a broken collarbone or a separated shoulder, regardless he is not expected to be available this week.

Saw that. He ran hard against MSU last winter. Sounds like he will be back late in the year. Not sure when
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatsRback said:
I continue to say I’m not a fan of W&M being a top 5 team. They’ll likely win the CAA due to their pitiful schedule but I think Elon was their lone loss last season. Hopefully they can do it to them again.
I'm with you. With their undefeated record, the Tribe deserves to be ranked. But top-5? ... I don't think so. :(

It’s your classic east coast bias “the CAA has to stay relevant” nonsense. W&M is their last ditch effort at a seed this fall. Ranked absolutely, as you stated. But better than ID,SS, HC, UIW, Furman? Not even close… someone wants to argue: SIU, UND, Delaware? Okay, I could listen with one ear. They’ll run into a BSC or MVFC in the quarters and bounce again.
 
CatsRback said:
The.Real.2506 said:
Elon wins it this year, Bronson Yoder went out last week with what may be a season ending injury, either a broken collarbone or a separated shoulder, regardless he is not expected to be available this week.
Saw that. He ran hard against MSU last winter. Sounds like he will be back late in the year. Not sure when
Typical run-heavy W&M squad, and they do have some credible "next man up" talent. Still, there's bound to be some drop off when you lose a player of that caliber (was on the Payton Watch List). Have not seen much of Elon, beyond some of their loss to Wake Forest. They clearly know how to defend the run, and actually have a credible passing attack (QB hit over 62% against WF). At home, I think they have a very good chance for an upset. (One of my picks, FWIW.)
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatsRback said:
Saw that. He ran hard against MSU last winter. Sounds like he will be back late in the year. Not sure when
Typical run-heavy W&M squad, and they do have some credible "next man up" talent. Still, there's bound to be some drop off when you lose a player of that caliber (was on the Payton Watch List). Have not seen much of Elon, beyond some of their loss to Wake Forest. They clearly know how to defend the run, and actually have a credible passing attack (QB hit over 62% against WF). At home, I think they have a very good chance for an upset. (One of my picks, FWIW.)

I picked Elon as well, along with UND beating SDSU… they’re good for 1 head scratcher loss a year… shoulda been UNI last year. UND QB can sling it and will do his best to keep UND in the game. But I believe in the end UND will be out coached. Their coaches don’t have the “balls” to walk into DJD and get gutsy with the play calling.
 
CatsRback said:
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I picked Elon as well, along with UND beating SDSU… they’re good for 1 head scratcher loss a year… shoulda been UNI last year. UND QB can sling it and will do his best to keep UND in the game. But I believe in the end UND will be out coached. Their coaches don’t have the “balls” to walk into DJD and get gutsy with the play calling.
"Balls" or not, there's then a small matter of "execution." If the UND guy can get hot (and stay hot), I think they do have a credible chance for an upset. Not one of my picks however.

Because of their attitude about the division, I despise including the Ivy teams at all. To me, they're just an arrogant bunch who happen to play at more or less the FCS level. But ... there they are, and they can't be ignored. So I picked Harvard for an upset over Holy Cross. A stretch, I know. Thing is, we don't really know about the Crimson, but there's a good chance that the Crusaders are over-ranked.
 
gris beating the bungles wasn’t on the list. I would’ve picked that one twice.

If you turds lose this week, who will be the first one to get to BHs house with pitchforks? Mama? Copper? Depuyer?
 
IdaGriz01 said:
CatsRback said:
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I picked Elon as well, along with UND beating SDSU… they’re good for 1 head scratcher loss a year… shoulda been UNI last year. UND QB can sling it and will do his best to keep UND in the game. But I believe in the end UND will be out coached. Their coaches don’t have the “balls” to walk into DJD and get gutsy with the play calling.
"Balls" or not, there's then a small matter of "execution." If the UND guy can get hot (and stay hot), I think they do have a credible chance for an upset. Not one of my picks however.

Because of their attitude about the division, I despise including the Ivy teams at all. To me, they're just an arrogant bunch who happen to play at more or less the FCS level. But ... there they are, and they can't be ignored. So I picked Harvard for an upset over Holy Cross. A stretch, I know. Thing is, we don't really know about the Crimson, but there's a good chance to the Crusaders are over-ranked.

UND can execute all day long. I don’t think the coaching staff puts them into a position to win once they exhaust their scripted plays.

HC is riding the quarterfinals game where they played SDSU close and their QB went off. Not sure if that was an anomaly or what. But I believe they played BC close.
 
I know it's semantics but I feel like the thread should be retitled "What upsets are possible?" Because I don't think any of these are terribly likely except possibly the Elon versus William and Mary matchup, which is incidentally the only one I voted for.
 
Da Boyz Mom said:
I know it's semantics but I feel like the thread should be retitled "What upsets are possible?" Because I don't think any of these are terribly likely except possibly the Elon versus William and Mary matchup, which is incidentally the only one I voted for.
Good suggestion. I'll fix that next week. (I've yet to find a way to edit the base post (containing the poll choices) without losing the vote count.)
 
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