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Upset Guesses (Dec 8, 9)

Where are the upsets?

  • #11 Weber State (11-2) at #1 JMU (12-0)

    Votes: 12 28.6%
  • #8 Wofford (10-2) at #4 NDSU (11-1)

    Votes: 3 7.1%
  • #21 New Hamp (9-4) at #6 SDSU (10-2)

    Votes: 7 16.7%
  • #18 Kenn St (12-1) at #5 SHSU (11-1)

    Votes: 20 47.6%

  • Total voters
    42

IdaGriz01

Well-known member
Figured I’d get this posted right away so we’d have something else to play with, besides all the threads that are now basically going around on circles. On paper at least, all four games look like they could be mismatches. On the other hand, you can also make cases for upsets in every one of them. So let’s share some reasons … don’t just pick (“gut feeling” is okay, however :) ).

Underdog on the left, one choice allowed, and you can change your votes.
 
Kennesaw st. Defense has been solid on the road so far in the playoffs, couple that with there clock eating offense and shsu will have to make their possessions count.
 
I see that someone else picked Kennesaw over Sam right away, like I did. As I said, you can make cases for every game, but I just think Kennesaw is on a roll ... and has a defense that could stymie SHSU.

Edit: Boy, you have to type fast around here. :lol:
 
If Weber St can shutdown JMU's run game early, they can grind out a win.
 
I'm going out on a limb. If Cantwell choses his passes carefully and limits turnovers they give #1 a hell of a game. That is my upset guess.

I wanted to pick Kennesaw to pull another one this coming weekend but I think everyone else will too , given the choices. Both of these games are bizarre matchups as far as styles.

I say Kennesaw meet Weebs on the 16th. How's that for a shocker?
 
signedbewildered said:
I'm going out on a limb. If Cantwell choses his passes carefully and limits turnovers they give #1 a hell of a game. That is my upset guess.

I wanted to pick Kennesaw to pull another one this coming weekend but I think everyone else will too , given the choices. Both of these games are bizarre matchups as far as styles.

I say Kennesaw meet Weebs on the 16th. How's that for a shocker?
Sure would. I'd love it! :thumb:
:party:
 
IdaGriz01 said:
signedbewildered said:
I'm going out on a limb. If Cantwell choses his passes carefully and limits turnovers they give #1 a hell of a game. That is my upset guess.

I wanted to pick Kennesaw to pull another one this coming weekend but I think everyone else will too , given the choices. Both of these games are bizarre matchups as far as styles.

I say Kennesaw meet Weebs on the 16th. How's that for a shocker?
Sure would. I'd love it! :thumb:
:party:


Me too :clap:
 
Bertram said:
If Weber St can shutdown JMU's run game early, they can grind out a win.

I picked Weber, but I think Kenny has the best chance...wouldn't really call it an upset either.
 
AZDoc said:
Bertram said:
If Weber St can shutdown JMU's run game early, they can grind out a win.
I picked Weber, but I think Kenny has the best chance...wouldn't really call it an upset either.
By the "rankings" it is definitely considered an upset ... but the Owls (Hoot! Hoot!) sure look like a team that is peaking at just the right time.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
AZDoc said:
Bertram said:
If Weber St can shutdown JMU's run game early, they can grind out a win.
I picked Weber, but I think Kenny has the best chance...wouldn't really call it an upset either.
By the "rankings" it is definitely considered an upset ... but the Owls (Hoot! Hoot!) sure look like a team that is peaking at just the right time.

Oh I get it...but just think SHSU is overrated. We will see this week. This is exactly the type of team that can take down that offense.
 
I've got New Hampshire. By no means are they a great team. However, neither is So. Dakota State.

I believe the typical MVFC arrogance is way too high this year. Though when is it not? Those teams tend to play their best against each other. UNH doesn't seem to pose much of a threat. Therefore they may just slip by and expose the Jackrabbits on Saturday.

P.S. Though I'd love to see Weber State pull it off Friday. Good Luck Wildcats.
 
Grizzlies1982 said:
I've got New Hampshire. By no means are they a great team. However, neither is So. Dakota State.

I believe the typical MVFC arrogance is way too high this year. Though when is it not? Those teams tend to play their best against each other. UNH doesn't seem to pose much of a threat. Therefore they may just slip by and expose the Jackrabbits on Saturday.

P.S. Though I'd love to see Weber State pull it off Friday. Good Luck Wildcats.
Just watched our recording of the UNH game against Central Arkansas. The NH quarterback got knocked out (concussion protocol), so they had to go to a red-shirt freshman. So the defense stepped up, scoring a pick-6 TD, getting other turnovers, and absolutely stuffing the Bear offense. Which is damned impressive since CA has one of the best offenses in the Southland (known for offense). Plus, the CA quarterback was named Offensive Player of the Year in the Southland, and is considered a bona fide NFL prospect.

Not ready to change my vote, but definitely thinking about it.
 
Grizzlies1982 said:
I've got New Hampshire. By no means are they a great team. However, neither is So. Dakota State.

I believe the typical MVFC arrogance is way too high this year. Though when is it not? Those teams tend to play their best against each other. UNH doesn't seem to pose much of a threat. Therefore they may just slip by and expose the Jackrabbits on Saturday.

P.S. Though I'd love to see Weber State pull it off Friday. Good Luck Wildcats.
As suggested above, I decided to re-consider my vote for Kennesaw State. So I went to the numbers posted at NCAA.com. It was indeed impressive how the Owls shut down J’ville State. But the upset of Central Arkansas was actually more impressive … where it mattered.

Fair warning: If you're not a numbers geek, you should probably jump right to the bottom.

Jacksonville State is #16 in rushing offense, but only #58 in total offense and #41 in scoring (28.8 ppg).
Central Arkansas is #16 in passing offense, but #7 in total offense and #10 in scoring (35.8 ppg). So, by the numbers, Central Arkansas was a far stronger opponent than J’ville State. And that showed in the results.

Kennesaw held the Gamecocks almost 120 yards under their season average for rushing. J’ville has only a feeble passing game (#106), so they were held about 180 yards under their average for total offense, and nearly 22 points below their scoring average.

UNH held Central Arkansas almost 124 yards under their season average for rushing. But “forcing” the Bears to pass just unleashed that part of their more balanced offense … so UNH held them only 31 yards below their average for total offense. But stuffing the running game made it harder in the red zone, so the Bears were nearly 21 points below their scoring average.

Conclusion: Playing a team with a much better, and more balanced offense, UNH won by basically the same margin as Kennesaw State. But you also have to factor in the numbers for each team’s next opponent.

The numbers for New Hampshire’s upcoming opponent, South Dakota State, are not too shabby. The Jacks are #38 in rushing offense. Their passing attack is outstanding, so they are #14 in total offense and #6 in scoring (37.4 ppg) Those total numbers are quite similar to those for Central Arkansas, which UNH beat handily.

Kennesaw’s opponent, Sam Houston State, presents a much bigger problem. SHSU is not that far behind J’ville State in their rushing attack (about 43 ypg less). But they are #1 in passing, #1 in total offense, and #1 in scoring (46.6 ppg). That’s vastly more “firepower” than the Owls faced at Jacksonville State. Still, you can’t say Kennesaw has no chance. Their #1 rushing attack (328.5 ypg) allows them to dominate Time of Possession (#7, 33.2 min). Countering that is the fact that SHSU piled up the most yards, and the most points in FCS, while consistently losing the TOP battle (#107, 28.0 min).

Bottom line: I just changed my vote from Kennesaw State for the upset to New Hampshire. Of course, it would be an absolute hoot if both happened.
 
So...If Ken, Weber, and SDSU all win this weekend...Can us CATS fans finally say we have 3 good losses this year...PLEASE?
 
Still watching and waiting to see if/when the other two of the fours games might be broadcast on DirecTV. As it stands now, Weber at JMU (Friday at 5:00 pm) and Wofford at NDSU (Saturday at 10:00 am) will be shown on ESPN2 (DirecTV channel 209).

Since the other two will be carried by ESPN3 (streaming), we expect them to also show up on the high-700 channels. But usually the earliest they get listed is Thursday afternoon ... so we're still hopeful.
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Still watching and waiting to see if/when the other two of the fours games might be broadcast on DirecTV. As it stands now, Weber at JMU (Friday at 5:00 pm) and Wofford at NDSU (Saturday at 10:00 am) will be shown on ESPN2 (DirecTV channel 209).

Since the other two will be carried by ESPN3 (streaming), we expect them to also show up on the high-700 channels. But usually the earliest they get listed is Thursday afternoon ... so we're still hopeful.
Channels posted. How about some more votes?
 
JMU’s defense is tough. I think if Weber can score some points and play their defense, they’ve got a chance. JMU doesn’t score a lot of points when facing a tougher defense. So if Weber can sustain some drives, that’s few opportunities for JMU.
 
Grizzlies1982 said:
I've got New Hampshire. By no means are they a great team. However, neither is So. Dakota State.

I believe the typical MVFC arrogance is way too high this year. Though when is it not? Those teams tend to play their best against each other. UNH doesn't seem to pose much of a threat. Therefore they may just slip by and expose the Jackrabbits on Saturday.

P.S. Though I'd love to see Weber State pull it off Friday. Good Luck Wildcats.
New Hampshire will have their top QB back ... passed the concussion protocol: http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20171208121517692801404
 
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