There's nothing wrong with Men's Griz B-ball...

[Growler1]

...as long as they limit their scheduling to the BSC and lower division basketball programs. Compared with the better mid majors and higher Griz squads overall suffer from a clear lack of quickness. Time and time again we've seen teams drive for successful layouts because defenders could not fill the driving lane. Cherry is the most notable exception on a team of generally slow-footed players. Tinkle (obviously a big guy himself) favors size while sacrificing quickness in the process. The past season's lack of consistent outside shooting is a temporary worry, but the pervading sense that UM squads don't truly believe that they match up in March is endemic and has been a problem every since Krysko left. With Heathcote Morrill and Montgomery UM played instinctually, whereas IMHO recent Griz teams have become so deliberate in their mind-numbing sets as to become terribly predictable.

Watching the NCAA's further reinforces the fact that the succcessful teams are both quick and physical which is why Montana and the rest of the BSC continue to reinforce their reputation as the "one and done" conference come March Madness. Unless the Griz do a serious program evaluation you should expect more of the same in the future. Instead of concentrating on tall timber perhaps Tinkle needs to extend his recruiting to areas of the country, maybe even the East Coast where dinky schools you've never heard of before play a speed up game built around quick players with ball smarts and fast hands and feet developed from playing against the best since childhood. Otherwise UM should charter to become the first state- supported Catholic school to give Gonzaga some recruiting competition out West... Kidding...sorta.

The most difficult fix may be to get UM basketballers and coaches to believe that they can actually compete outside of a woefully weak BSC that offers little or no competitive incentive.

This is a GREAT POST! I agree totally with everything you said here!

 

[Growler1]

...as long as they limit their scheduling to the BSC and lower division basketball programs. Compared with the better mid majors and higher Griz squads overall suffer from a clear lack of quickness. Time and time again we've seen teams drive for successful layouts because defenders could not fill the driving lane. Cherry is the most notable exception on a team of generally slow-footed players. Tinkle (obviously a big guy himself) favors size while sacrificing quickness in the process. The past season's lack of consistent outside shooting is a temporary worry, but the pervading sense that UM squads don't truly believe that they match up in March is endemic and has been a problem every since Krysko left. With Heathcote Morrill and Montgomery UM played instinctually, whereas IMHO recent Griz teams have become so deliberate in their mind-numbing sets as to become terribly predictable.

Watching the NCAA's further reinforces the fact that the succcessful teams are both quick and physical which is why Montana and the rest of the BSC continue to reinforce their reputation as the "one and done" conference come March Madness. Unless the Griz do a serious program evaluation you should expect more of the same in the future. Instead of concentrating on tall timber perhaps Tinkle needs to extend his recruiting to areas of the country, maybe even the East Coast where dinky schools you've never heard of before play a speed up game built around quick players with ball smarts and fast hands and feet developed from playing against the best since childhood. Otherwise UM should charter to become the first state- supported Catholic school to give Gonzaga some recruiting competition out West... Kidding...sorta.

The most difficult fix may be to get UM basketballers and coaches to believe that they can actually compete outside of a woefully weak BSC that offers little or no competitive incentive.

This is a GREAT POST! I agree totally with everything you said here!

 

[Growler1]

First of all, since im an adult, I will reply to your ridiculous, pointless post even though you dont have an answer for mine...why didnt you answer mine, by the way?...were you not able to bullshit your way through how damn athletic the big sky conference is so you just scrapped it?

Marc mariani's official pro day 40 was 4.48...my post, from months back, which had nothing to do with this or anything else, was based on what an actual scout at the combine told me...so if what he said was wrong by 2 tenths of a second, then by god ya got me player! By the way, you drop that bs about some nfl info sites say as low as 4.40 lol...well some info also says as high as 4.51...its not my problem that your man crush makes you believe is was more like a 4.4 than a 4.5...oh, im sorry, technically you didnt say exactly that, you just kind of implied it, huh

you said sarcastically not to try and tell you that cherry wasnt athletic...well i never even eluded to that...so A, youre a moron and pulled that from absolutely nowhere making no point whatsoever in bringing up who everyone knows is an extremely athletic kid...or B...youre inferring that i did elude to cherry in some way...is it A or B?...

oh, and in the interest of staying on topic, did you plan to reply to my previous post?...or would you like to discuss who i lost my virginity to and a parking ticket i had a few years back, you know, anything that might impune and discredit my ability to be such an enlightened and insightful poster as yourself :clap:

I don't believe you said Mariani ran a 4.48 at pro day. Others did. You said Mariani didn't run the fastest time at pro day, but that is not accurate, according the official NFL results and what some others posted on egriz.

Again, I directed no comment to you about Cherry. You apparently can't read.

I think it's funny that you make a big deal about not trusting hand-held times, and indicate that only the NFL times are accurate--but you didn't know the pro day, and some Combine, times are handheld.

I'm not going to answer questions from you or have a discussion with you, because you're being a jerk, and can't read. Glad to hear you're an adult, because you're not acting that way.

Another pissing contest from the most insecure Griz poster. Be careful, you have now moved into the second tier with Playa Rape, where he starts looking-up your old posts! :lol: :lol:

Jack, why don't you quit embarrassing yourself in front of the entire Griz nation? Saying that Stockton and Selvig are "athletic" when compared to other Division I BB players is like saying that MotherTeresa gives a great lap dance!

 

[PlayerRep]

First of all, since im an adult, I will reply to your ridiculous, pointless post even though you dont have an answer for mine...why didnt you answer mine, by the way?...were you not able to bullshit your way through how damn athletic the big sky conference is so you just scrapped it?

Marc mariani's official pro day 40 was 4.48...my post, from months back, which had nothing to do with this or anything else, was based on what an actual scout at the combine told me...so if what he said was wrong by 2 tenths of a second, then by god ya got me player! By the way, you drop that bs about some nfl info sites say as low as 4.40 lol...well some info also says as high as 4.51...its not my problem that your man crush makes you believe is was more like a 4.4 than a 4.5...oh, im sorry, technically you didnt say exactly that, you just kind of implied it, huh

you said sarcastically not to try and tell you that cherry wasnt athletic...well i never even eluded to that...so A, youre a moron and pulled that from absolutely nowhere making no point whatsoever in bringing up who everyone knows is an extremely athletic kid...or B...youre inferring that i did elude to cherry in some way...is it A or B?...

oh, and in the interest of staying on topic, did you plan to reply to my previous post?...or would you like to discuss who i lost my virginity to and a parking ticket i had a few years back, you know, anything that might impune and discredit my ability to be such an enlightened and insightful poster as yourself :clap:

I don't believe you said Mariani ran a 4.48 at pro day. Others did. You said Mariani didn't run the fastest time at pro day, but that is not accurate, according the official NFL results and what some others posted on egriz.

Again, I directed no comment to you about Cherry. You apparently can't read.

I think it's funny that you make a big deal about not trusting hand-held times, and indicate that only the NFL times are accurate--but you didn't know the pro day, and some Combine, times are handheld.

I'm not going to answer questions from you or have a discussion with you, because you're being a jerk, and can't read. Glad to hear you're an adult, because you're not acting that way.

Another pissing contest from the most insecure Griz poster. Be careful, you have now moved into the second tier with Playa Rape, where he starts looking-up your old posts! :lol: :lol:

Jack, why don't you quit embarrassing yourself in front of the entire Griz nation? Saying that Stockton and Selvig are "athletic" when compared to other Division I BB players is like saying that MotherTeresa gives a great lap dance!

Steve, you're the one embarrassing yourself and Griz nation. You've been kicked off of this board scores of times. You were responsible for the ugmb shutting down. You are laughed at and about all over town, and beyond.

And for the record, I have not even said Stockton and Selvig--let alone that they were althletic compared to other D-I basketball players. Since I know you can't read or comprehend, or remember much, here's exactly what I said about those two guys:

"Selvig has athletic ability and is not a slug. ... Stockton has some athleticism and he can defense almost anyone. He's also in the right position, smart, strong and tough."

 

[ordigger]

It wasnt too long ago the basketball board hadnt been reduced to the petty squabbling that we see so much of on the football boards. From my point of view you both have more interest in attacking points and characters of each other posts. Try smiling, maybe holding hands and singing kumbaya around the campfire. I think we will all be better for it.

Its like a democrat and a republican, you both have your own opinions, and your own agendas but when you look in the mirror you see each other staring out at you, meaning in the end you come off as the same, and look alike.

I challenge you both to go the next 120 days without attacking each other, and your posts. You got a start because because PlayerRep is out of town for awhile.